Gay/LGBT "Christian" Singers

[sevenseas]

you know, David was not happy over the death of Saul, his worst enemy

he said 'how the mighty have fallen'

do not rejoice when someone falls is the message I get from the Bible and yes, we sure do need a reminder of it!

 

[stonesoffire]

I have to be in agreement with Stephen on this for this reason..

We sit in heavenly places..

If we look at the translation of this, it is above our humanity or our weakness of the flesh.

We know what is sin to God by the law. This person is denying the very Word of God. And is deception.

 

[Stephen63]

so you are on your knees for her, right?

and you are super concerned about her testimony which you know does not glorify the Lord Jesus Christ, right?

or do you wish for fire from heaven? that will come too, but for now we should accept Jesus response to those closest to Him while He walked the planet He made

God grieves over her and your heart should too

you can be the most knowledgeable man on earth but if you do not have love, you sir, are nothing at all

My desire was to allow christians to see our days we live in as they really are, not as many thinks it is.

These are challenging times for the church. As the Op I knew that I too would be challenged for simply showing these videos.

Just because I stated the obvious about this last video doesn't mean I'm a gay hater, so don't presume you can waltz in here & paint me as one.

You are what you are, & do what you do. That's not my fault, I had no hand in that.

I haven't attacked you, I have no desire to do so, & I'm not biting..... notta gonna happen.

My consistency in this thread doesn't point to your implications of me.

This thread isn't about me, so I'd appreciate it if you would quit trying to make it so. It's not about you either, so please quit trying to derail this thread. Thank you.

 

[MadebyHim]

This is a really messed up world and getting worse every day. i wouldn't want hell for person, and i hope all come to repentance (our Lord Christ Jesus). This one was a terrible person before meeting Jesus, and what Jesus has done for me he can do for all. If Jesus can and has done this for me, He can do it for anyone.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy. James 5:7-11

 

[Stephen63]

you know, David was not happy over the death of Saul, his worst enemy

he said 'how the mighty have fallen'

do not rejoice when someone falls is the message I get from the Bible and yes, we sure do need a reminder of it!

From the beginning I noticed no such spirit in this thread. Most everyone here agrees that they need the Lord like anyone else.

I do, however, see a change of spirit now. I always question unprovoked criticism & the motives of those that do it.

 

[sevenseas]

My desire was to allow christians to see our days we live in as they really are, not as many thinks it is.

These are challenging times for the church. As the Op I knew that I too would be challenged for simply showing these videos.

Just because I stated the obvious about this last video doesn't mean I'm a gay hater, so don't presume you can waltz in here & paint me as one.

You are what you are, & do what you do. That's not my fault, I had no hand in that.

I haven't attacked you, I have no desire to do so, & I'm not biting..... notta gonna happen.

My consistency in this thread doesn't point to your implications of me.

This thread isn't about me, so I'd appreciate it if you would quit trying to make it so. It's not about you either, so please quit trying to derail this thread. Thank you.

oh honestly Stephen. you do have a gift for the dramatic and playing the victim

nobody called you a gay hater. but it's fine to say God hates the practice of homosexuality and He does and He hates all sin

sin is destructive and leads to death and separation from God. everyone on this thread will agree on that

stop defending yourself for things no one said. that alone causes people to wonder why you need to defend yourself, you know?

you have posted at least one video which is untrue and casts a really bad quality over this thread and I already mentioned that one

good on yah for your 'desire'

I truly, sincerely and deeply do not believe you have the truth on how all Christians live and most of us are very aware of the sin in those that call themselves by the name of Christ

You are what you are, & do what you do. That's not my fault, I had no hand in that.

whatever that means. at any rate, aren't we all trying to be more than we are? you know, maybe that is part of the problem here. you are seeing people at their worst instead of hoping for more of Christ in them

death and hell are final. these are souls Jesus died for.

actually, I think the thread is in large part about you. I have not seen you post one thread that is uplifting.

 

[sevenseas]

I have to be in agreement with Stephen on this for this reason..

We sit in heavenly places..

If we look at the translation of this, it is above our humanity or our weakness of the flesh.

We know what is sin to God by the law. This person is denying the very Word of God. And is deception.

what does 'we sit in heavenly places' mean to you?

Jesus reaches out to people through us. who shall I send? sound familiar? since you know the OT

and by the way, we do NOT sit in judgement over the hearts of others.

 

[kaylagrl]

No it's an Assembly of God church, and I didn't mean all the examples I was using they teach or believe. My pastor believes that when you receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost it will be evidences by speaking in tongues. If you know the Assembly of God's faith statement that is what he believes too, but honestly he doesn't push it hard. It's just not the subject matter often. Like I said before, and I know I wasn't very clear, some of the examples I was using were not what is taught in the church I attend, also this was not meant as a criticism of these things, just an example of how even though we don't agree on some things we can still all love Christ together..

No I just noticed you mentioned talking in tongues and salvation and AofG doesn't believe that tongues saves you

 

[samuel23]

The gifts and calling of God are without repentance, that was for the nation of Israel and should not be applied to Christians. The Spirit gives gifts as He wills and they operate as He wills, and the Spirit is not subject to the will of the individual, neither is the Spirit bound in any way to maintain a gift on a person who is not right with God. About the anointing, we are all anointed as Christians and have the same Spirit, Christians can have different gifts given by the Spirit, however the natural ability to speak and hold a crowd is not a gift from God, just a natural ability, Hitler had such an ability. There is this really ridiculous idea going around that God picks certain persons and gives then the anointing and even if they get into sin they are still the special anointed ones of God. Jesus taught no such thing, we are all brothers and sisters. Folks are trying to place some OT practices on the church that God did not place on the church and to use that to exalt particular individuals above the rest.

 

[samuel23]

what does 'we sit in heavenly places' mean to you?

Jesus reaches out to people through us. who shall I send? sound familiar? since you know the OT

and by the way, we do NOT sit in judgement over the hearts of others.

Why are you defending a woman who shows utter contempt for our God by defiantly practicing what is an abomination to Him and then acting proud of it?

 

[sevenseas]

Why are you defending a woman who shows utter contempt for our God by defiantly practicing what is an abomination to Him and then acting proud of it?

Sam...get some new glasses

I have never nor would I ever defend homosexuality

you are missing comprehension skills

I mean how is a person even supposed to respond to this?

you are way off base sir

 

[samuel23]

Sam...get some new glasses

I have never nor would I ever defend homosexuality

you are missing comprehension skills

I mean how is a person even supposed to respond to this?

you are way off base sir

After I posted that I thought, maybe she was not doing what I thought, sorry about that, I didn't really think you would defend something like that.

 

[DJ2]

The gifts and calling of God are without repentance, that was for the nation of Israel and should not be applied to Christians. The Spirit gives gifts as He wills and they operate as He wills, and the Spirit is not subject to the will of the individual, neither is the Spirit bound in any way to maintain a gift on a person who is not right with God. About the anointing, we are all anointed as Christians and have the same Spirit, Christians can have different gifts given by the Spirit, however the natural ability to speak and hold a crowd is not a gift from God, just a natural ability, Hitler had such an ability. There is this really ridiculous idea going around that God picks certain persons and gives then the anointing and even if they get into sin they are still the special anointed ones of God. Jesus taught no such thing, we are all brothers and sisters. Folks are trying to place some OT practices on the church that God did not place on the church and to use that to exalt particular individuals above the rest.

Well said, not going to be liked by many people but well said.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I recently found out that my 18 year old brother is bisexual. It's hard. I'm the only one in our family that knows and he doesn't want anyone else to know for the reason that he thinks my grandparents will disown him.

I have had friends that have suggested that I talk to him about it. But what am I supposed to say? I think he probably already knows about what I would say or my grandparents for that matter. That being gay is a sin and that you need to repent. Is that really going to do anything? Especially at that age. He just loves to be different and stand out and to be defiant.

What makes it worse is that his friends are all so supportive. Like, once someone comes out of the closet, it is ENCOURAGED, because according to society, if you do anything BUT encourage being gay, then you are close minded and a terrible person. Especially if you are a millennial who is against homosexuality.

He was raised as a Christian just as I was and still goes to church with the family every Sunday. But he's going off to college in the fall and I can only imagine that making the issue worse.

Romans 1:28-32Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

28 And because they did not think it worthwhile to acknowledge God, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is morally wrong. 29 They are filled with all unrighteousness,[a] evil, greed, and wickedness. They are full of envy, murder, quarrels, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, arrogant, proud, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, and unmerciful. 32 Although they know full well God’s just sentence—that those who practice such things deserve to die[—they not only do them, but even applaud others who practice them.

Until he wants to know God, his lifestyle isnt surprising for all who deny him and his word. Hes merely a fan. Just trying to blend in for now. But yes college will make it worse. But this may be part of Gods plan. He has heard the gospel in church. So who knows his lifestyle may turn him to God one day. Only thing your commanded to do is tell him the truth in a loving way. Tell him because you care for him. Be private about it. Maybe do it in a letter if you think he will be really uncomfortable.

But always be ready mentally because if you bring out Gods truth it may not sit well with him. If he likes the sin then he may react towards you in not such a nice way. Prepare yourself for this so if it happens you can just respond and try keeping the peace. If you see the hostility growing then its time to walk away. And let Gods will take control.

 

[SovereignGrace]

David took Bathsheba, Killed Uriah and was confronted by NATHAN after the child was born about his sin which ate on him for at least 9 months before he repents..........

I said that everybody and every circumstance is different and not to make that a blanket statement. But I don't think ppl will wallow in their sins for years.

 

[popeye]

Every single attacks something of God whether it be God's holiness or the foundation of a family that God created. That's what makes sin so bad. I just don't agree that it is worse than every other sin...

No,stealing a paperclip is not exactly the same as robbing your neighbor and wiping him out.

Sticking someone in the rear with a hat pin is not the same as cutting their arm off.

But all sin separates.

That does not mean that all sin is the same,or incurs the same punishment.

 

[popeye]

[h=1]Proverbs 6:16-19King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.[/FONT]

 

[Roughsoul1991]

No,stealing a paperclip is not exactly the same as robbing your neighbor and wiping him out.

Sticking someone in the rear with a hat pin is not the same as cutting their arm off.

But all sin separates.

That does not mean that all sin is the same,or incurs the same punishment.

Not all the same in mankind's eyes but to God sin is sin regardless the nature of it.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I said that everybody and every circumstance is different and not to make that a blanket statement. But I don't think ppl will wallow in their sins for years.

You never know how anyone mentally will handle a situation until it happens. Someones sin from a one time choice to go out drinking and then drive only hitting and killing the people in another car. He survives and that one decision may eat on him for years until he learns that no sorrow is big enough that God cant handle it and forgiveness is found in Jesus.

 

[popeye]

Not all the same in mankind's eyes but to God sin is sin regardless the nature of it.

under this logic,God made a mistake of only destroying one city,since all sin is exactly the same.