Jesus is not King
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That's just asinine. Because Jesus has all authority he said "Therefore, go into all nations..." It means "because of this present fact..."
The context of Matthew 28 denies your false teachings, along with many other passages.
You really expend lot's of energy attempting to dethrone Christ. It's amazing.
Philippians 2:
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Vs 9-10 – our Lord Jesus Christ has already been highly exalted and His Name is above every name. Now. In our lifetime.
Vs 11 – Not every tongue has confessed that Jesus Christ is Lord (yet). However, some have already confessed that Jesus Christ is Lord. And to those who have confessed, Jesus Christ is their Lord. He is already reigning in the life of those who confess Him as Lord.
We all understand that there is a day and time coming when our Lord Jesus Christ will reign on this earth, just as promised.
John146, I think you are referring to that future time. And that time will come.
And until then, Jesus Christ reigns now in the lives of those who have confessed Him as Lord. And His Name is powerful over all aspects of the believer's life.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Vs 9-10 – our Lord Jesus Christ has already been highly exalted and His Name is above every name. Now. In our lifetime.
Vs 11 – Not every tongue has confessed that Jesus Christ is Lord (yet). However, some have already confessed that Jesus Christ is Lord. And to those who have confessed, Jesus Christ is their Lord. He is already reigning in the life of those who confess Him as Lord.
We all understand that there is a day and time coming when our Lord Jesus Christ will reign on this earth, just as promised.
John146, I think you are referring to that future time. And that time will come.
And until then, Jesus Christ reigns now in the lives of those who have confessed Him as Lord. And His Name is powerful over all aspects of the believer's life.
Amen. There is a literal fulfillment of His kingdom here on earth. He is not on the throne right now but seated at the right hand of the Father who is on the throne. It's a literal, physical kingdom with a literal, physical throne. The throne of David has been promised to Him and He will rule and reign on earth. The prophet Isaiah speaks of this coming kingdom in Isaiah 11. This is yet to be fulfilled.
Of Course He is King friend. He is the Promised Mesiah from ages past. what do you think the image of Him sitting on Gods throne means? Jesus is King of saints and will always Be. He is Like God, made to be everything Not only King. He is High preist in the Order of Melchezidek King of peace or King of " salem". Gods way has been from long ago to rule the people through an appointed King who would do Gods will rather than seek to establish thier own will.
Jesus is indeed the Promised King He is the Son of God. He is more prophet, High preist, the sacrifice, the temple, the Only begotten Son of God, the King of kings and Lord of lords. who is making us Kingd and presits unto Our God and Father, making us children of God. He is everything God said He is Given all things by God Himself, all sufficient and the fulfillment of Gods Word. Jesus is most certainly King then, now and forever He will reign.....He simply doesnt reign over God, but Rules and reigns because of God, God rule through Him even as He hands the kingdom back to His Father who is God......Jesus will remain King and the One who God rules His heavens and earth through. He will never change from Who He was in the beginning, was on earth and is now.
Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
He is the Son of God, sent to earth made to be like man, crucified and resurrected and glorified to sit as King eternal forever One with God and that is How He mediates between God and man, Like Gods Kings have always done the rule over the Kingdom by Gods will and not thier own. He will forever and ever Be everything God said He is everything to believers. and the Only way to come into and maintain a relationship with the One true and Only God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus is indeed the Promised King He is the Son of God. He is more prophet, High preist, the sacrifice, the temple, the Only begotten Son of God, the King of kings and Lord of lords. who is making us Kingd and presits unto Our God and Father, making us children of God. He is everything God said He is Given all things by God Himself, all sufficient and the fulfillment of Gods Word. Jesus is most certainly King then, now and forever He will reign.....He simply doesnt reign over God, but Rules and reigns because of God, God rule through Him even as He hands the kingdom back to His Father who is God......Jesus will remain King and the One who God rules His heavens and earth through. He will never change from Who He was in the beginning, was on earth and is now.
Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
He is the Son of God, sent to earth made to be like man, crucified and resurrected and glorified to sit as King eternal forever One with God and that is How He mediates between God and man, Like Gods Kings have always done the rule over the Kingdom by Gods will and not thier own. He will forever and ever Be everything God said He is everything to believers. and the Only way to come into and maintain a relationship with the One true and Only God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Maybe what the op should have made even more clear is
Yes Jesus is King
Is He RULING on earth now - No
Is He King of kings (saints) - yes
preparing them for rulership with Him when He comes as 'the Word of God' to correct all nations....see Rev 19.
But certain things have to happen first 2Thes 2.
I can see all this in the op but the headline could be confusing at first glance.
Yes Jesus is King
Is He RULING on earth now - No
Is He King of kings (saints) - yes
preparing them for rulership with Him when He comes as 'the Word of God' to correct all nations....see Rev 19.
But certain things have to happen first 2Thes 2.
I can see all this in the op but the headline could be confusing at first glance.
coukdbyou explain when this will happen?
thsnknyou....
24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
please read the above clearly....the kingdom is under HIS authority...now
when all has been brought into submission to HIM then HE will hand THE KINGDOM back...
to THE FATHER
thsnknyou....
24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
please read the above clearly....the kingdom is under HIS authority...now
when all has been brought into submission to HIM then HE will hand THE KINGDOM back...
to THE FATHER
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Notice in verse 25, "For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet."
Jesus Christ must reign first. This is pointing to His thousand year reign in His second coming to earth. At the end of His reign, Satan is loosed again and the final battle takes place. All the Lords enemies will be subdued.
Jesus Christ must reign first. This is pointing to His thousand year reign in His second coming to earth. At the end of His reign, Satan is loosed again and the final battle takes place. All the Lords enemies will be subdued.
Yes HE must reign until all has been accomplished sir
that is why in revelation 5 you see a lamb before the throne looking slain though lives
because NO MAN CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH THE SON
And sir...many profess to have god(s) but deny THE SON
And he who does does not have either THE FATHER or THE SON
That is why HE must reign before THE THRONE until all has been accimplished
because nit all are in submission to HIM because not all believe THE TRUTH
that is why in revelation 5 you see a lamb before the throne looking slain though lives
because NO MAN CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH THE SON
And sir...many profess to have god(s) but deny THE SON
And he who does does not have either THE FATHER or THE SON
That is why HE must reign before THE THRONE until all has been accimplished
because nit all are in submission to HIM because not all believe THE TRUTH
By then it will be too late for those who do not enter into (the kingdom ) now by way of THE DOOR
What did you think it meant that there are those who have already passed from death to LIFE and have a part in the first resurrection
what did you think it meant that we are seated in the heavenly realms in CHRIST JESUS
NOW?
those who die outside of CHRIST before the 1000 year reign will have to wait until the great white throne judgement to be resurrected
What did you think it meant that there are those who have already passed from death to LIFE and have a part in the first resurrection
what did you think it meant that we are seated in the heavenly realms in CHRIST JESUS
NOW?
those who die outside of CHRIST before the 1000 year reign will have to wait until the great white throne judgement to be resurrected
If you can't serve HIM
now...what makes you think that those during the 1000 year reign will?
(And...I mean those who made it through the tribulation but had no part in the faith of CHEIST prior to that time-those who will be physically alive who were not counted in the first resurrection)
if all during that reign will be subject to HIM
then, then there would be no need to send Satan out for another final cleansing of THE KINGDOM before the final end of things co e
now...what makes you think that those during the 1000 year reign will?
(And...I mean those who made it through the tribulation but had no part in the faith of CHEIST prior to that time-those who will be physically alive who were not counted in the first resurrection)
if all during that reign will be subject to HIM
then, then there would be no need to send Satan out for another final cleansing of THE KINGDOM before the final end of things co e