Gun rights - for or against?

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How are we going to go about 'banning' people, praytell? Thank God Dylan Roof only used a handgun. If had used a semiautomatic or automatic weapon, he may have killed far more than 9. The Orlando shooter used a semiautomatic rifle and killed 49 in the nightclub.

NO ONE should be killed by a terrorist, and it is terrible that Dylan Roof killed nine. If he used a semiautomatic, he probably would have killed way more than 9 people.
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Criminals will always be able to get what they need.
Laws are only for law-abiding citizens....
 
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Criminals will always be able to get what they need.
Laws are only for law-abiding citizens....
LOL Banning people obviously makes about as much sense as banning guns. Both are incredibly stupid ideas. Something only a Democrat would try. And we all know that democrats are all about controlling the masses, hatred, slavery, domination and power
 
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LOL Banning people obviously makes about as much sense as banning guns. Both are incredibly stupid ideas. Something only a Democrat would try. And we all know that democrats are all about controlling the masses, hatred, slavery, domination and power
Off topic, but you're right.
Socialized healthcare serves the same purpose...
Control of the masses.
 
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Where there are guns, evil happens. Where people stand by the right to guns, evil manifests, both in them, and in those who use them to commit murder. If your insatiable need for a gun is written by fear, sugar-coated as for your protection, then God is not with you. You have said that you are God, and you do not need God to protect you, and you have said that God who is love is in a weapon that causes death, and that weapons are therefore love.
 
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Where there are guns, evil happens. Where people stand by the right to guns, evil manifests, both in them, and in those who use them to commit murder. If your insatiable need for a gun is written by fear, sugar-coated as for your protection, then God is not with you. You have said that you are God, and you do not need God to protect you, and you have said that God who is love is in a weapon that causes death, and that weapons are therefore love.
Where there are people evil happens. Where people stand by gun rights evil is held at bay. A good example of this is Switzerland, where the law says that every adult MUST own a gun. Look at their crime rate. Very very low in almost every area. Owning a weapon does NOT say you do not need God to protect you. Jesus' disciples carried swords and He even told them to at one point. Do some grown up research.
 
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Do you own a gun?

Where there are people evil happens. Where people stand by gun rights evil is held at bay. A good example of this is Switzerland, where the law says that every adult MUST own a gun. Look at their crime rate. Very very low in almost every area. Owning a weapon does NOT say you do not need God to protect you. Jesus' disciples carried swords and He even told them to at one point. Do some grown up research.
 

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Where there are guns, evil happens. Where people stand by the right to guns, evil manifests, both in them, and in those who use them to commit murder. If your insatiable need for a gun is written by fear, sugar-coated as for your protection, then God is not with you. You have said that you are God, and you do not need God to protect you, and you have said that God who is love is in a weapon that causes death, and that weapons are therefore love.

This is a good point.
As for myself, My wife and I pray daily to Jesus for protection from evil and in our 30 years of marriage, no one has ever touched us.
As the saying goes, "if you own a gun, some day you are going to use it".
 
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This is a good point.
As for myself, My wife and I pray daily to Jesus for protection from evil and in our 30 years of marriage, no one has ever touched us.
As the saying goes, "if you own a gun, some day you are going to use it".
I Do use mine. I shot a deer, I shot a moose, I shot an elk I shot a bear, (the bear went good with mustard). I will continue to use my gun as long as I eat meat. And if I ever have to use it against someone who threatens my family....So be it.
 
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Those who own guns tend to be part of a “social gun culture.”
Men who carry guns suffer from a “crisis of confidence.”
Gun owners tend to be angry and impulsive.
Holding a gun can make you paranoid.
Those with racist views are more likely to oppose gun reform.
Conservatives are far more likely to own firearms than others.
Risk-taking students are more likely to have guns at college.

You know, the deluded thing is, that to self-enable belief in carrying a gun, what you are saying is that all those who die in mass shootings are collateral for your belief, that your belief in gun ownership is more important than all those lives lost through mass homicide. And there is a clear link. That is why evil manifests, even if it is not through the gun itself, but simply believing in owning one. You would rather people die than ever have gun control. After all, if you knew for sure that 1000s of lives every year would be saved from gun control, which would you choose? Which would evil choose? That is the question.
 

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I am absolutely FOR GUN RIGHTS. I do believe that people should be required to have them in a locked place if there are any children in the house, and that maybe the mental capacity should be judged by a qualified phychiatrist before being allowed to purchase one. This is something that has been legal for many many years, and just because we now have phychos in the society it is no reason to take away the privileges of the many law abiding sane citizens.
 
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Those who own guns tend to be part of a “social gun culture.”
Men who carry guns suffer from a “crisis of confidence.”
Gun owners tend to be angry and impulsive.
Holding a gun can make you paranoid.
Those with racist views are more likely to oppose gun reform.
Conservatives are far more likely to own firearms than others.
Risk-taking students are more likely to have guns at college.

You know, the deluded thing is, that to self-enable belief in carrying a gun, what you are saying is that all those who die in mass shootings are collateral for your belief, that your belief in gun ownership is more important than all those lives lost through mass homicide. And there is a clear link. That is why evil manifests, even if it is not through the gun itself, but simply believing in owning one. You would rather people die than ever have gun control. After all, if you knew for sure that 1000s of lives every year would be saved from gun control, which would you choose? Which would evil choose? That is the question.
Are you serious?! Or just a braindead Democrat? None of what you just said was true or made sense. Do you drive a car? More people die each year by car. Do you smoke? Yup More people die each year from lung cancer. Do you like ice cream and rich food. Yup again Heart disease kills far more than guns do. ON and on and on...Guns have NEVER killed anybody...Stupid fools do when they come up with a demented reason to. Then demented people think taking guns away will stop the killing....That's the height of foolishness...Read what I said above in post #60
 
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Calm down people. Breathe! A debate has two sides. We are not all the same. Carry on....
 

AllenW

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I Do use mine. I shot a deer, I shot a moose, I shot an elk I shot a bear, (the bear went good with mustard). I will continue to use my gun as long as I eat meat. And if I ever have to use it against someone who threatens my family....So be it.
If you have a fear of someone threatening your family so that you would have to shoot them, then someone is wrong in your life.
 
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This is a good point.
As for myself, My wife and I pray daily to Jesus for protection from evil and in our 30 years of marriage, no one has ever touched us.
As the saying goes, "if you own a gun, some day you are going to use it".
I like the example of Switzerland.

How about this:

If criminals know that every household is going to have a gun, they'll think twice before entering a home.

If there's gun control and only criminals have guns...won't that make it easier for them to rob and steal and violate the homes of many.

A home is a place that should be safe. So many are being broken into. How could they be considered safe anymore?
 
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If you have a fear of someone threatening your family so that you would have to shoot them, then someone is wrong in your life.
Now there's the thing.. I have no fear of that at all
 

AllenW

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Now there's the thing.. I have no fear of that at all
Then why do you worry about someone hurting your family?
You're the one who said it, there must be something to it.
 
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Then why do you worry about someone hurting your family?
You're the one who said it, there must be something to it.
I never said I was worried about my family I said I have no problems dealing with anybody who threatens them
 

AllenW

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I never said I was worried about my family I said I have no problems dealing with anybody who threatens them
Then I'll turn it around.
You are either looking for trouble or you need to move to a safer neighborhood.
Or maybe you could start trusting God instead of your gun.
 
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Then I'll turn it around.
You are either looking for trouble or you need to move to a safer neighborhood.
Or maybe you could start trusting God instead of your gun.
Why would you turn it around? Simply take it the way I said it and stop trying to psychoanalyze. I'm sure you are no doctor of anything