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Hebrews 11
39And all these, though commended through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40since God had provided something better for us, that apart from us they should not be made perfect.
It talks about..
Hebrews 12
r.” 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23and to the assemblya of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
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Without Jesus there is no new Covenant. Without born again saints, there is no Mount Zion.
Hebrews 11
39And all these, though commended through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40since God had provided something better for us, that apart from us they should not be made perfect.
It talks about..
Hebrews 12
r.” 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23and to the assemblya of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
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Without Jesus there is no new Covenant. Without born again saints, there is no Mount Zion.
I am saying God was not at one with Abraham until he offered up Isaac. The word know in Gen 22.12 is not in the tense you are trying to fit into to support your argument. The Hebrew word for Know here is the same as man having intimacy with his wife or becoming one with her...
Until you are one with Jesus Christ you are just easy believing your way right into hell...and while you have a promise, there is no receiving the blessings of the inheritance until God is at one with you and you are at one with God...this is called Covenant relationship and illustrated perfectly through Abraham
Until you are one with Jesus Christ you are just easy believing your way right into hell...and while you have a promise, there is no receiving the blessings of the inheritance until God is at one with you and you are at one with God...this is called Covenant relationship and illustrated perfectly through Abraham
You don't believe Christ. Do you think He's lying to you?
You believe IN Christ. Difference.
No need to redefine faith or believe. When reading John 6:29 next time, try to figure out what believe means in that sentence.
You'll be surprised.
You're asking your child the wrong question.
The question is DO YOU BELIEVE IN ME?
Well. What do they do if the answer is YES?
Do they obey you, or do they not obey you?
Anyway, we are not God. God does not think as we do.
Do you think YOU are as holy and pure and just as God is?
Then you cannot think like He does.
The finite cannot understand the infinite.
God DOES demand some action from you. He DOES demand some proof that you love Him.
IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU WILL OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS.
John 14:15
You believe IN Christ. Difference.
No need to redefine faith or believe. When reading John 6:29 next time, try to figure out what believe means in that sentence.
You'll be surprised.
You're asking your child the wrong question.
The question is DO YOU BELIEVE IN ME?
Well. What do they do if the answer is YES?
Do they obey you, or do they not obey you?
Anyway, we are not God. God does not think as we do.
Do you think YOU are as holy and pure and just as God is?
Then you cannot think like He does.
The finite cannot understand the infinite.
God DOES demand some action from you. He DOES demand some proof that you love Him.
IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU WILL OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS.
John 14:15
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No the bible proves God overlooked the sins of abraham and other OT peoples, until the redeemer came, When he made their payment in full.
Again, If jesus did not die, All OT saints would have perished forever. just like we would
The bible also proves Abraham was saved in Gen 15, By faith,, And made one with God at that very time.
As usual, I'm answering for those reading along.
YOU probably already know.
Forgiveness is when someone does you a wrong. You might be uspet at first and you might not.
The relationship is broken. Then one day you decide that you need to forgive that person of whatever they did.
So you do forgive them.
That is forgiveness. It's something you do. But the relationship is still broken.
When the other person ALSO decides to forgive you, and tells you, and you shake hands and make up...
THAT is reconcilitation. Reconciliation repairs the broken relationship and restores it to the way it was originally.
YOU probably already know.
Forgiveness is when someone does you a wrong. You might be uspet at first and you might not.
The relationship is broken. Then one day you decide that you need to forgive that person of whatever they did.
So you do forgive them.
That is forgiveness. It's something you do. But the relationship is still broken.
When the other person ALSO decides to forgive you, and tells you, and you shake hands and make up...
THAT is reconcilitation. Reconciliation repairs the broken relationship and restores it to the way it was originally.
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Reconciliation is one that returns back to God through forgiveness of their sins,. If there is no forgiveness ,then there is no reconciliation. God wants mankind to return to him as they were when he created Adam and Eve before the fall. He says he will reconcile ,take you back through his forgiveness of your sins.