Not By Works

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Magenta

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Ouch! Those aren't cat claws..... they're dragon talons!

I seem to remember not long ago you did the same thing to me.

I didn't take it, either.:)
You are terribly confused Stephen. What happened was you repeatedly falsely accused me and then told us you could admit it if you were wrong but then refused to admit you were wrong and continued to insert yourself (like a good little narcissist) into what I had said when I was not even thinking of you. You have been proven to be a liar many times over :)
 
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I did ask you to interpret the word believe. I did, now why not you? If you have posted it in the past, I didn't see it.
I'm not trying to be difficult.

I see that you know how to look up words in Greek lexicons or Strong's or using other methods.

I truly think that if you do this yourself you'll accept it more than if I just post it.

See what the word means, and then come tell me that it does not include works...
Are you a disciple of Christ or not??
 
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Some people like some things of the flesh,and do not want to give them up,but the Bible sounds good,eternal life,and they believe,so that is the denomination that they gravitate towards,like a moth to a flame,the OSAS Church.

If there was no such a belief as OSAS,and the interpretation was always be Christlike,or there is no salvation,would these people believe the Bible.

You will know them by their fruits,and there will be many hypocrites at the end time.

What denomination,and group of people that claim to be a Christian,has the most hypocrisy,the most love of money,and material things,and the most worldliness.

Could it be the people that believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God.

Could it.

Or is it the people that say abstain from sin,represent goodness,and be Christlike.

Yah,it is probably them,and their hypocrisy,going around loving people,feeding and clothing the poor and needy,being all Christlike and such.

Those must be the hypocrites at the end time.
 
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Why should people listen to you? You say quite often how you have no need of what others want to tell you but you seem to expect and desire everyone to fall down at your feet in rapt attention while you spew your hatred and Roman Catholic garbage, as if you had some knowledge others did not. Your double standard should make you ashamed of yourself but you seem blind to it as to many other things.
Why should people listen to you?
Who spews out hatred more than you?

God loves you Magenta.
Calm down.
 
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Theres a bad streak there appearing...not nice Jimbo.

So is this that I said something rude to you?
my mistake i just wondered what was the chances of you making a spelling mistake ? hershey bar ? is allmost an anagram of heresy no offence intended but may i ask are you still mad with me for wondering if you had demons trying to tempt you in to false accusations
 
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For what? Saying I thought you had a block somewhere in your thinking? I still believe it.
No. You're allowed to say that. It's what you think.

BTW, regarding the above, I replied to you that you shouldn't worry about my blocks and posts should not be made personal.
 

Magenta

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The funny thing is that you really showed your hypocrisy Stephen, by attempting to take me to task for questioning who is and who is not saved, while you then turn around and make similar statements. You are as big a hypocrite as Fran is, and that is really saying something!
 
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Amen....amazing how much has to be denied and or rejected to believe one can lose ETERNAL life.....
you cant lose something that hasnt been obtained by any living man on the face of this plannet yet.......... get it into your head ... when you are walking in eternal life you will be walking with people youve lost along the way...
 
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To me it seems that it is NOT about licentiousness and the freedom to sin and grace = disobedience.

To me, it sounds here on this thread, that some say works are not necessary.

Dcon has come right out and said that works do not save or keep saved.

Well, if works do not KEEP us saved, what does?
The love Jesus has for us?

Then this DOES LEAD to grace = disobedience.
Works is obedience.
If we obey God we remain IN CHRIST,

If we DO NOT OBEY, are we still IN CHRIST?
If we are NOT IN CHRIST, are we still saved?

Seems really easy to me. No need to complicate.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Your ability to reason is stellar........
 

Magenta

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you cant lose something that hasnt been obtained by any living man on the face of this plannet yet.......... get it into your head ... when you are walking in eternal life you will be walking with people youve lost along the way...
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
 
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The funny thing is that you really showed your hypocrisy Stephen, by attempting to take me to task for questioning who is and who is not saved, while you then turn around and make similar statements. You are as big a hypocrite as Fran is, and that is really saying something!
Some are on the paytroll, no question about it imo.
 
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The above is to Stephen.

I'd say his house is swept.
The beam is removed from his eye.
He does not rip people.
And he speaks the truth to you.
Like I just said....your ability to reason is stellar!!
 
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the question no one has answered or asked, what are these works?
Well Maverich,
you're new here.
What do you think they are?
Do you do works every day?
Are you saved?
Do you wish to please Jesus?
Did He say TO DO or
did He say NOT TO DO?

What do YOU think?
After salvation are we to do NOTHING because Jesus said so?
Where did He say this?
I can't find it anywhere...
 
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Please provide a verse where JESUS says that we are positionally saved.

As usual, you won't be able to.

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.

JESUS spoke about reality ---
NOT "positioning" or "positional" or whatever it is that's been invented by you.

Remember, I said WHAT JESUS SAID about it.

JESUS is the Word, not anyone else who may not agree with HIM.
Fran....my new motto for your.....your ability to reason is stellar......!
 

Magenta

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Some are on the paytroll, no question about it imo.
It's odd how often he talks about sock puppets. I never even knew what that was until he went on and on and on about it. It was funny when he talked about people with an "S" on their shirt, like he would somehow be excluded when his very name starts with an "S."
 
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The works that are the result of empowerment by Holy Spirit. Is what I believe them to be. However, James talks about feeding the poor and visiting widows and orphans. Good deeds. Here now I am quoting Jesus is a roundabout way.

Cast out devils, heal the sick, raise the dead, etc.
Actually Stone,
You DID quote JESUS!

But, you see, He's saying what we are TO DO.
And this is mostly all He said.
He NEVER said to do nothing and just believe in Him.
Because if we BELIEVE in him -- Strong's no. 4100 -- we will do what He said to do.

BTW, you do have an incorrect idea of what works are.
I don't know anybody that casts out devils and raises the dead. Do you?