Revelation 12 Sign: September 23,2017
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bwahaha. dunno why people thought for one second this september 23rd was legit...... genuine hope or just gullible?. these doomsday predictions have been going on since forever. each more embarassing than the last u see. the only thing this does is make the world look at christians like a bunch of dummies.
let me just point out the mon who put this in motion was a catholic.
let me just point out the mon who put this in motion was a catholic.
Satan is bound before the millennium and then released again for a short time is my understanding of what I read.
Good morning, by the way.
Good morning, by the way.
Indeed the devil is bound throughout the duration of the 1000 years, Revelation 20:2-3 . And that the beast and the false prophet are removed before the 1000 years,Revelation 19:20 and the remnant slain Revelation 19:21. So this would be before the 1000 years and not after.
In Luke 10:18 is he cast out or fallen from heaven? In 2Corinthians 11:13-22 who is this? Is this before or after he is cast out of heaven in Revelation 12 and when he is going to and fro in the earth? The prince of this world when he was cast he ascended up to heaven Acts 1:11,John 12:31 ...
I would think that the Thessalonians were confused about it long before then in that they were afraid they had missed it. How be it though they were as it seems not looked at as though they were not Christians because of not fully understanding eschatology but spoken of in love. So if they are not set away as not of Christ because they did not understand this who knew Paul in person who are we this many years later who have only read his letters? If so then we at first drink milk and then eat meat it is so that this is to be divided in patience not delivering meat to those who drink milk nor milk to those who eat meat. That is one day we will know the depths of these things if we drink our milk.
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I believe Revelation was written before 70 A.D.
I believe that the fleeing into the wilderness is referring to those who escaped before Jerusalem was destroyed.
I believe that the 1260 days are referring to the time frame of 538-1798 A.D. The "remnant of her seed" are the [ true ] Christians that the Holy Roman Empire persecuted during the Dark Ages.
I believe that the fleeing into the wilderness is referring to those who escaped before Jerusalem was destroyed.
I believe that the 1260 days are referring to the time frame of 538-1798 A.D. The "remnant of her seed" are the [ true ] Christians that the Holy Roman Empire persecuted during the Dark Ages.
i assume ((because i looked up the dates and found them on an odd prophecy site)) that he's referring to this:
((quoted from 538 A.D. TO 1798 A.D.))
the beginning point, 538BC, is really very arbitrary IMHO -- definitely not the beginning of the papacy, and not the only time Rome was under siege at all.
it looks like one arrives at these dates only if they have predetermined already to call the pope antichrist, then searching for things about the pope to poke sticks at, they find that Napoleon once imprisoned one of the popes. then, they work backward, arbitrarily exchanging days for years in Revelation, and arrive at the year 538, notice that something involving Rome happened then, and play up its relevance.
call me skeptical *shrug*
538 A.D. TO 1798 A.D.
A period of only 1260 literal days, only 3 1/2 years, falls absurdly short of fulfilling the requirements of the 1260-day prophecies in regard to the Papacy. But when, by the year-day principle is extended to 1260 years, the prophecy meets a unique fulfillment.In 538 A.D. the Ostragoths abandoned their siege of Rome -- and this left the Bishop of Rome to excercise the perogatives of Justinian's decree of 533 A.D. the power and the authority of the Papacy grew, and grew, and grew.
Exactly 1260 years later the Papcy suffered its "deathblow."
The spectacular victories of the armies of Napoleon in Italy placed the Pope at the mercy of the French Revolutionary Government, which now advised that the Roman Religion would always be a persistant enemy of the Republic.
The government urged Napoleon to destroy the center of unity of the Roman church, and Napoleon did just that.
In 1798 the French general Berthier, with a French army, marched into Rome and proclaimed the political rule of the Papcy at an end and took the Pope prisoner. The Pope was removed to France where he died in exile.
The 1260 year rule of the Papacy was finished.
A period of only 1260 literal days, only 3 1/2 years, falls absurdly short of fulfilling the requirements of the 1260-day prophecies in regard to the Papacy. But when, by the year-day principle is extended to 1260 years, the prophecy meets a unique fulfillment.In 538 A.D. the Ostragoths abandoned their siege of Rome -- and this left the Bishop of Rome to excercise the perogatives of Justinian's decree of 533 A.D. the power and the authority of the Papacy grew, and grew, and grew.
Exactly 1260 years later the Papcy suffered its "deathblow."
The spectacular victories of the armies of Napoleon in Italy placed the Pope at the mercy of the French Revolutionary Government, which now advised that the Roman Religion would always be a persistant enemy of the Republic.
The government urged Napoleon to destroy the center of unity of the Roman church, and Napoleon did just that.
In 1798 the French general Berthier, with a French army, marched into Rome and proclaimed the political rule of the Papcy at an end and took the Pope prisoner. The Pope was removed to France where he died in exile.
The 1260 year rule of the Papacy was finished.
((quoted from 538 A.D. TO 1798 A.D.))
the beginning point, 538BC, is really very arbitrary IMHO -- definitely not the beginning of the papacy, and not the only time Rome was under siege at all.
it looks like one arrives at these dates only if they have predetermined already to call the pope antichrist, then searching for things about the pope to poke sticks at, they find that Napoleon once imprisoned one of the popes. then, they work backward, arbitrarily exchanging days for years in Revelation, and arrive at the year 538, notice that something involving Rome happened then, and play up its relevance.
call me skeptical *shrug*
David Meade, the self-described “specialist in research and investigations,” has earned a fair amount of publicity online for predicting that catastrophic events would soon befall Earth.
Among his claims: On Saturday, Sept. 23, 2017, a constellation — a sign prophesied in the Book of Revelation — would reveal itself in the skies over Jerusalem, signaling the beginning of the end of the world as we know it. Meade believes that by the end of October, the world may enter what’s called a seven-year tribulation period, a fairly widespread evangelical belief that for seven years, catastrophic events would happen.
He also claims that a planet called Nibiru, which has been debunked by NASA as a hoax, is headed toward Earth. When it passes the planet later this year, Meade claims, catastrophe in the form of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves and others would ensue.
All of this is “the story of the century,” Meade said on his website, but he says it’s distorted and misrepresented by the mainstream media. He said some publications have exaggerated his words and falsely reported that he believes the world would end this weekend.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...vously-eyeing-sept-23/?utm_term=.a9af7883a1fe
Among his claims: On Saturday, Sept. 23, 2017, a constellation — a sign prophesied in the Book of Revelation — would reveal itself in the skies over Jerusalem, signaling the beginning of the end of the world as we know it. Meade believes that by the end of October, the world may enter what’s called a seven-year tribulation period, a fairly widespread evangelical belief that for seven years, catastrophic events would happen.
He also claims that a planet called Nibiru, which has been debunked by NASA as a hoax, is headed toward Earth. When it passes the planet later this year, Meade claims, catastrophe in the form of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves and others would ensue.
All of this is “the story of the century,” Meade said on his website, but he says it’s distorted and misrepresented by the mainstream media. He said some publications have exaggerated his words and falsely reported that he believes the world would end this weekend.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...vously-eyeing-sept-23/?utm_term=.a9af7883a1fe
You somehow mysterously make 1260 days into 1260 years! lol
The time frame of three and a half years in the Revelation of Jesus Christ is stated in three ways, 42 months (Rev 11v2, 13v5), time, times (dual) and half a time (Rev 12v14 with Dan 7v25, 12v7) and 1260 days (Rev 11v3, 12v6)! There are no long periods of time mentioned in Rev 4v1 to 19v21. The only other periods of time mentioned besides the 3½ years, are short periods of time. Rev 6v11, 8v1, 9v5,10,15, 11v14, 18v9,17. It is total folly to make a day mean a year, as you have done, for where God means a year, as in Rev 20v2-7, He says so. God gave this period of 3½ years in three ways, days, months and years, to convince us that He means just what He has said.
Those who make 2Peter 3v8, Numb 14v34 and Ezek 4v6, the excuse for a year for day theory, are twisting the Scriptures; and disqualify themselves from being taken as serious prophetic students; and prove that they cannot “correctly analyse the Word of truth.” 2Tim 2v15. These absurd theories make prophetic dating quite meaningless. In Num 14v34 and Ezek 4v6, the days are literal days, and the years are literal years, they are certainly not a principle of prophetic interpretation. In Numb 14v34, God states a fact of judgement, not a principle of prophetic interpretation; the 40 days of unbelieving spying out of Canaan, received a judicial sentence of 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, and God's breach of promise. Num 13v17 to 14v45. In Ezek 4v6, Ezekiel's symbolic act brought to public notice the 430 years of past sin for which judgement was to come, and in 2Peter 3v8 Peter compares the many years of God's longsuffering with His tremendous judgements on the day of the Lord.
People use this method of interpretation, so that they can twist the facts, for a symbolically interpreted prophecy, can be made to mean almost any thing they desire. Who decides which dates are symbolic and which are literal? We should accept the time periods God has given to us and not tamper with them. How do you explain the “half hour” of Rev 8v1, and the “five months” and “thirteen months” of Rev 9v5,10,15? If we fail to interpret Scripture dates literally, we end in utter darkness.
Also consider the dire warning the Lord Jesus states in Rev 22v18,19!
The time frame of three and a half years in the Revelation of Jesus Christ is stated in three ways, 42 months (Rev 11v2, 13v5), time, times (dual) and half a time (Rev 12v14 with Dan 7v25, 12v7) and 1260 days (Rev 11v3, 12v6)! There are no long periods of time mentioned in Rev 4v1 to 19v21. The only other periods of time mentioned besides the 3½ years, are short periods of time. Rev 6v11, 8v1, 9v5,10,15, 11v14, 18v9,17. It is total folly to make a day mean a year, as you have done, for where God means a year, as in Rev 20v2-7, He says so. God gave this period of 3½ years in three ways, days, months and years, to convince us that He means just what He has said.
Those who make 2Peter 3v8, Numb 14v34 and Ezek 4v6, the excuse for a year for day theory, are twisting the Scriptures; and disqualify themselves from being taken as serious prophetic students; and prove that they cannot “correctly analyse the Word of truth.” 2Tim 2v15. These absurd theories make prophetic dating quite meaningless. In Num 14v34 and Ezek 4v6, the days are literal days, and the years are literal years, they are certainly not a principle of prophetic interpretation. In Numb 14v34, God states a fact of judgement, not a principle of prophetic interpretation; the 40 days of unbelieving spying out of Canaan, received a judicial sentence of 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, and God's breach of promise. Num 13v17 to 14v45. In Ezek 4v6, Ezekiel's symbolic act brought to public notice the 430 years of past sin for which judgement was to come, and in 2Peter 3v8 Peter compares the many years of God's longsuffering with His tremendous judgements on the day of the Lord.
People use this method of interpretation, so that they can twist the facts, for a symbolically interpreted prophecy, can be made to mean almost any thing they desire. Who decides which dates are symbolic and which are literal? We should accept the time periods God has given to us and not tamper with them. How do you explain the “half hour” of Rev 8v1, and the “five months” and “thirteen months” of Rev 9v5,10,15? If we fail to interpret Scripture dates literally, we end in utter darkness.
Also consider the dire warning the Lord Jesus states in Rev 22v18,19!