Why did Adam sin?
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Adam sinned because of Eve.
Eve sinned because of the serpent.
Chinese whispers.
The man said:
“The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
GOD said to the woman:
“What is this you have done?”
The woman said:
“The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
Then GOD said to the serpent:
“Because you have done this...."
So yea, they both sinned. But whos fault was it? ...the serpent
Eve sinned because of the serpent.
Chinese whispers.
The man said:
“The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
GOD said to the woman:
“What is this you have done?”
The woman said:
“The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
Then GOD said to the serpent:
“Because you have done this...."
So yea, they both sinned. But whos fault was it? ...the serpent
Genesis 2 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Genesis 3 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it waspleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
adam was with eve when she was deceived its not as if He didnt Know it was happening. just my own thought when eve ate the fruit and didnt drop dead in front of adam, the deception spread then and there. His thinking " well she didnt die, the serpent must have been right might as well try it at least looks good...sounds good and shes alive and well mmm smells good..."
this of course just a thought based on whats there, I know paul says " it was the Womans fault" but it seems as if adam had the same choice being He was with her. ultimately I believe God had a plan to make us in His image and we first had to understand good and evil in order to be like God. and later came the restoration of eternal Life through Christ.
The moral of the story is Trust GOD when he Commands you to or not to.. above all else rebuke the serpent with the Love of GOD.
I consider that when I was young and heard of Adam and Eve I believed they ate fruit that they were not allowed to and were poisoned tricked by a snake.. as I grow the moral is the same yet I sense we are not aware of all the goings on... now the serpent was cursed Genesis 14-15
So I think we are given enough insight to learn from yet don't think we can answer the why so much.. we are mortals that must be born again of the Holy Spirit to receive Everlasting life.. only way is through Faith in the Son of GOD.
I consider that when I was young and heard of Adam and Eve I believed they ate fruit that they were not allowed to and were poisoned tricked by a snake.. as I grow the moral is the same yet I sense we are not aware of all the goings on... now the serpent was cursed Genesis 14-15
So I think we are given enough insight to learn from yet don't think we can answer the why so much.. we are mortals that must be born again of the Holy Spirit to receive Everlasting life.. only way is through Faith in the Son of GOD.
eves for sure Knew what God said about the fruit satan asked her if God really said that and she responded rightly even indicating He said "dont even touch the tree or you will surely die." we have no record of God saying this, but it stands to reason were not given every Moment in the garden, Only what is relevant to those who would come to Christ. the idea to me anyways is Gods Word is Meant for our Life, to protect us, a warning like telling your kid " dont drink this poison with the mr. yuck sticker...its poison to you ....fatal dont mess with it.
adam was with eve when she was deceived, and offered the fruit after she ate it, to Him. in a sense, eve was the first Human to spread a false doctrine and adam was deceived by following Her.
adam was with eve when she was deceived, and offered the fruit after she ate it, to Him. in a sense, eve was the first Human to spread a false doctrine and adam was deceived by following Her.
But what kind of death - Paul tells us exactly what kind here:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 7:9 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
Rom 7:10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me;
Obviously Paul was still physically alive to write to the Romans, so he died the same death that Adam died in the day he ate - which was not physical death.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 7:9 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
Rom 7:10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me;
Obviously Paul was still physically alive to write to the Romans, so he died the same death that Adam died in the day he ate - which was not physical death.
very cool post thanks 
to me its what paul is saying here
romans 7 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.9For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.10And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
before God said " you must not...or you will die" which was meant to keep thier life safe, like a warning ( ordained to life) satan took that and made it death by deceiving them onto transgressing the first commandment. i look at it as paul speaking of mankind here referencing the garden, before the Law. but when God said " you must not eat this fruit or you will surely die" satan saw an opportunity to kill mankind through sin because God Had said " you will surely die if you do this" He took what was meant to protect and Killed man with that commandment by sin, and sin came through the temptation.
to me its what paul is saying here
romans 7 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.9For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.10And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
before God said " you must not...or you will die" which was meant to keep thier life safe, like a warning ( ordained to life) satan took that and made it death by deceiving them onto transgressing the first commandment. i look at it as paul speaking of mankind here referencing the garden, before the Law. but when God said " you must not eat this fruit or you will surely die" satan saw an opportunity to kill mankind through sin because God Had said " you will surely die if you do this" He took what was meant to protect and Killed man with that commandment by sin, and sin came through the temptation.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (1 John 2:16)
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food (lust of the flesh), and that it was pleasant to the eyes (lust of the eyes), and a tree to be desired to make one wise (the pride of life), she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:6)
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food (lust of the flesh), and that it was pleasant to the eyes (lust of the eyes), and a tree to be desired to make one wise (the pride of life), she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:6)
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"The Devil made me do it" is just blame shifting.
God didn't just punish the serpent. He punished all three. However God grace was that Adam and Eve punishment was meant to be a blessing also to teach them the value of what they had lost and a deeper appreciation for the blessings God gave them Even though they did nothing to. "Earn" or deserve it. God gave them hope in a Messiah,the promised seed.
God said Eve would be delivered from cramps and her monthly bleeding by the blessing of children.
Adam will have to work hard but God Still provides us food and water to live.
So God's punishments serve also as blessings of we can see it and if we admit that we deserve much worst.
Adam and Eve were created knowing God,and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was put in the garden because God gave them a choice,for without that choice there is no true love.
God commanded them to not eat of that tree,and since Adam and Eve were created knowing God it would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them.
Since God gave them a choice,and it would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them,He allowed Satan to tempt Eve,which Satan said did God say you may not eat of every tree of the garden,which Eve plainly stated they could eat of every tree,but that one tree,and then Satan tempted her that she would not die,and that God knows if they ate of the tree they would be as gods,and could be more than their current position,which seems like he was saying God is holding them back from being all they can be by telling them to not eat of that tree,and it appealed to Eve's lust of the flesh,and she ate the fruit.
Then Eve was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that it was alright to eat of the fruit of that tree for she did not die,and Adam ate of the fruit of that tree.
Adam and Eve would of not eaten of that tree unless an outside source tempted them,which Satan tempted Eve,and Eve tempted Adam.
Eve was deceived,but Adam preferred to listen to his wife over God,and when she did not die then he thought it was alright to eat of that tree,and might of thought God lied to them concerning the tree,until their eyes were opened,and they knew they were naked,and were ashamed,and God confronted them,and then they knew they made a mistake,and their lives went downhill from there as far as their labor upon the earth.
Which we like to tell our children,and grandchildren of stories that occurred in our life for their entertainment,but I wonder if Adam and Eve kept that story to themselves concerning the tree,and said,let us not tell our offspring,and their offspring,about what we did in the garden for they might not look at us in the same light again,and might say,you idiots.
God commanded them to not eat of that tree,and since Adam and Eve were created knowing God it would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them.
Since God gave them a choice,and it would of never entered their mind to eat of that tree unless an outside source tempted them,He allowed Satan to tempt Eve,which Satan said did God say you may not eat of every tree of the garden,which Eve plainly stated they could eat of every tree,but that one tree,and then Satan tempted her that she would not die,and that God knows if they ate of the tree they would be as gods,and could be more than their current position,which seems like he was saying God is holding them back from being all they can be by telling them to not eat of that tree,and it appealed to Eve's lust of the flesh,and she ate the fruit.
Then Eve was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that it was alright to eat of the fruit of that tree for she did not die,and Adam ate of the fruit of that tree.
Adam and Eve would of not eaten of that tree unless an outside source tempted them,which Satan tempted Eve,and Eve tempted Adam.
Eve was deceived,but Adam preferred to listen to his wife over God,and when she did not die then he thought it was alright to eat of that tree,and might of thought God lied to them concerning the tree,until their eyes were opened,and they knew they were naked,and were ashamed,and God confronted them,and then they knew they made a mistake,and their lives went downhill from there as far as their labor upon the earth.
Which we like to tell our children,and grandchildren of stories that occurred in our life for their entertainment,but I wonder if Adam and Eve kept that story to themselves concerning the tree,and said,let us not tell our offspring,and their offspring,about what we did in the garden for they might not look at us in the same light again,and might say,you idiots.
It is helpful for me to always keep in mind that Adam may be translated as mankind. Adam sinned.
Dam..from the same word origin means red and adam also may be erth, red earth in particular. We are taken from the earth and we return to the same.
The added meanings are only to inform, but the meaning, mankind, is very important. Jesus was the son of Adam or the Son of man or the Son of this earth.........all just for you and me. God is perfect. In His perfection He has demonstrated Himself to be the most true humility possible. Praise Him, He is worthy, amen.
Dam..from the same word origin means red and adam also may be erth, red earth in particular. We are taken from the earth and we return to the same.
The added meanings are only to inform, but the meaning, mankind, is very important. Jesus was the son of Adam or the Son of man or the Son of this earth.........all just for you and me. God is perfect. In His perfection He has demonstrated Himself to be the most true humility possible. Praise Him, He is worthy, amen.
I read most, but not every post, so forgive if this is redundant. I have mulled over Genesis for years, and years trying to find clues and answers about this curse and how it came to be. The Bible is truly a collection of inspired writings, but it is Spiritually discerned. The creation in Genesis is an aligorical story that was used to convey real events. Man was created to serve God. When man made a choice to disobey there was consequences. Man evaluates himself greater than he ought to. You can’t understand the Bible just by reading the Bible. Once you are reborn, ask the Heavenly Father to explain it all to you and although the answers may be different than you expect, it will bring depth to your understanding and the Bible will no longer be mysterious.
Why would you have "allegorical" and "real" in the same sentence? Adam and Eve were real historical persons and all the people we find in Genesis are real, historical people. We can either take the entire Bible in its plain literal sense (not discounting deeper meanings or metaphors) or we can accept the opinions of unbelieving critics and scholars which cast doubt on this.
It is not allegorical when it is taught in the Word that God spoke everything that is into existence, otherwise that would be saying int is an allegory for the physical evolution of all that is, and this is not what the Word is saying.
Mankind will never have the satisfaction of proving anything, scientifically, about the universe and how it came to be. Nope, the Word is far clearer and understandable. Too many gaping empty stretches in most scientific theory.l
A friend of mine and I used to discuss the universe. He was qualifed by being a doctor in astrophysics, and my qulification was believing the Word. I shaed with haim my own theory about astrophysices and what would be discovered. This was in 1969, a very big year for me. I shared a simple theory that the universe will be come larger and larger the more science discov ers and/&or investigates. About thirty years later astrophysicists put forth the theory that it is uie possible the universe is but one of many, an oxymoron if you ask me.
My source and reason for my theory was and is..........man will neer know anything that he will be able tp make a plapable reasoning and structuring of the earth and the heavens. God will just make it begger, no-brainer.
Mankind will never have the satisfaction of proving anything, scientifically, about the universe and how it came to be. Nope, the Word is far clearer and understandable. Too many gaping empty stretches in most scientific theory.l
A friend of mine and I used to discuss the universe. He was qualifed by being a doctor in astrophysics, and my qulification was believing the Word. I shaed with haim my own theory about astrophysices and what would be discovered. This was in 1969, a very big year for me. I shared a simple theory that the universe will be come larger and larger the more science discov ers and/&or investigates. About thirty years later astrophysicists put forth the theory that it is uie possible the universe is but one of many, an oxymoron if you ask me.
My source and reason for my theory was and is..........man will neer know anything that he will be able tp make a plapable reasoning and structuring of the earth and the heavens. God will just make it begger, no-brainer.
I believe Adam was like a lot of us. He didn't trust God. He was in love with Eve and God said they would die if they ate the fruit and I don't believe that Adam could see a life without Eve so he ate the fruit also knowing it was against what God had told him.
God could have created another mate for Adam....I just think it boils down to not trusting God to have the best plan in place with the best outcome for man. Just my opinion or two cents worth.
God could have created another mate for Adam....I just think it boils down to not trusting God to have the best plan in place with the best outcome for man. Just my opinion or two cents worth.