Can a battered wife file for divorce?

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Stunnedbygrace said:
And why did He not attack or defend against those who murdered Him? Wasn't it it for your sake? He could have called legions of angels. But then you would never have been saved. And will He one day be violent with certain men? Yes He will. When the time of the gentiles is full. He will come from the east and His robe will be soaked in blood and blood will be like a river in the streets, even up to the horses bridles. The horses will be wading through it.

Go read some more as you have received good counsel to do so. Read and pray. A lot.
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People have to understand that the message of God is for His human followers.. Not Nessecaraly for Him.. God did not make the Laws of the OT for Himself. He formulated them primaraly for His human followers..

So yes God has killed in the past and will kill again.. And in the past He ordered Hs followers to Kill also.He used them as implements of His wrath.

But we as human followers of God, both in the OT and in our current age need to believe Gods message whether it be in relation to violence or divorce.. The worst thing we can do is go against His revealed will for us and try to justify our actions against his message.. Of course we break every teaching Jesus gave us in His Word but as long as we believe in his Word and acknowledge our transgressions against His World we will remain covered by His Atoning Blood.. As Blue-ladybug said::

""" But thank God that He is more merciful than I and many others here are """

Loving and acknowledging the truth is way more important then our faulty ability to live up to the standards of His truth..
 
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This thread is about divorce.. Yeah life can be very traumatic when a person marries a psychopath or an insanely jealous man or even a borderline personality disordered woman.. But the message i was giving was that a woman does not need to get a divorce to escape such a situation.. I have never and will never advocate for woman or men to stay in abusive homes and relationships.. But again a woman does not need to get a divorce to be freed from such situations..
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This is the problem with the law. It is merciless. Mercy did not come through the law. Seeking to go back to it and yoking men, women and children anew with it leaves out mercy and can consign a woman and her children to a life of poverty in order to keep it. This is a heavy burden for them. The law is a heavy burden. It can't be borne. It is merciless. Do you understand what I'm saying?
 
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Exactly. Prison is precisely where abusers belong. Do I feel mercy for abusers? Yes, I do. :) My abuser probably had a bad childhood. His mom died, and he was close to her. He doesn't get along with all of his family. He's been in and out of jail all his life. So yes, I have sympathy for men like him. :)

BUT I do NOT have sympathy for the ones who abuse simply to look macho, or who do it to manipulate using fear. THOSE type of abusers deserve whatever punishment comes to them.

The thing with abusers is, they don't recognize that they have a problem. Very few of them want help, and very few of them even try to hide the fact that they're being abusive. The only response I got every time I told my ex he needed help was, "F*** you".. :/

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Give a sister a break. If you read the thread, she actually went through this trauma, so she had her mama bear claws out. She was in protect mode against lawyers who make the law a heavy burden on women and children while leaving out weightier matters of the law. Is her heart perfect yet? Is yours? We're getting there. He works on all of us. None of us have yet learned to be perfect in forgiveness.

This was an exercise Marcelo gave us. If it were real, ladybug would not really advocate slaughtering the man. She would get around to compassion for his misery eventually after the victims were safe and had been shown mercy and justice. She'd probably say something like...get him in prison where he can't continue attempting to murder weaker people and we'll try to help him from there if God is willing. She would get around to compassion even for him and even after what she herself went through because God would see to it with her.
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Stunned, in NONE of my replies here, have I said that abusers should be slaughtered..Punished, yes definitely. And if they happen to get injured or killed because the wife has a weapon and is defending herself, then that is his fault for making her feel that she needs to try to defend herself and or her kids.. What goes around, comes around. Violence begets violence. Only the woman wouldn't get in trouble, because she had to (possibly) use deadly force to protect herself and her babies..




Stunnedbygrace said:
Give a sister a break. If you read the thread, she actually went through this trauma, so she had her mama bear claws out. She was in protect mode against lawyers who make the law a heavy burden on women and children while leaving out weightier matters of the law. Is her heart perfect yet? Is yours? We're getting there. He works on all of us. None of us have yet learned to be perfect in forgiveness.

This was an exercise Marcelo gave us. If it were real, ladybug would not really advocate slaughtering the man. She would get around to compassion for his misery eventually after the victims were safe and had been shown mercy and justice. She'd probably say something like...get him in prison where he can't continue attempting to murder weaker people and we'll try to help him from there if God is willing. She would get around to compassion even for him and even after what she herself went through because God would see to it with her.
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I don't want to go!!! I want to stay and continue in this exercise He has given us! I'll be back to see where He leads us in it. Adstar and blue, you are great to talk with!
 
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Stunned, in NONE of my replies here, have I said that abusers should be slaughtered..Punished, yes definitely. And if they happen to get injured or killed because the wife has a weapon and is defending herself, then that is his fault for making her feel that she needs to try to defend herself and or her kids.. What goes around, comes around. Violence begets violence. Only the woman wouldn't get in trouble, because she had to (possibly) use deadly force to protect herself and her babies..
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Throw him in a pit with 200 soaking wet orange tabbies! :)
 
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Problem with some abusers is, before they get married, the guy may show NO signs at all of being physically abusive. But then after the marriage, BAM!! He turns into Dr. Jekyll/ Mr. Hyde. And the wife is like, "this is NOT the man I married". When I started dating my ex, he showed no signs of being an abuser. He was sweet, always bought me roses, paid for everything for me, etc.. And one day, boom.. He turned into Dr. Jekyll.

Had I been smart and talked to his exes, I would've learned that he abused them. And then, I wouldn't ever have gone out with him. Hopefully any battered women reading this, will learn from my mistakes..
 
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So are you and we love you.. :)

Stunnedbygrace said:
I don't want to go!!! I want to stay and continue in this exercise He has given us! I'll be back to see where He leads us in it. Adstar and blue, you are great to talk with!
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blue_ladybug said:
Stunned, in NONE of my replies here, have I said that abusers should be slaughtered..Punished, yes definitely. And if they happen to get injured or killed because the wife has a weapon and is defending herself, then that is his fault for making her feel that she needs to try to defend herself and or her kids.. What goes around, comes around. Violence begets violence. Only the woman wouldn't get in trouble, because she had to (possibly) use deadly force to protect herself and her babies..
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This is why I was suggesting others to give you a break for getting a little cranked up with teachers of the law and for the remark about firing squads and electric chairs. :)
 
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God forbid. Why are people using such abhorrent and sick examples to try and prove their point? In any case, would one not call the police and chase the intruder out of their house, without attacking them?

Also, the only Bible I recognise is the King James Bible, not these other translations rooted in evil, and in the KJB, Jesus clearly tells the soldiers to "do violence to no man", and we should abide by this rule.
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I'm starting to wonder if you are not a troll
 
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Well, I do agree that they need to reinstitute the firing squad and electric chair. Though not necessarily only for domestic abusers..

Stunnedbygrace said:
This is why I was suggesting others to give you a break for getting a little cranked up with teachers of the law and for the remark about firing squads and electric chairs. :)
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I'm sorry, but this subject always gets me riled up. I've seen my cousin get abused by many of her..umm.."acquaintances".. Unfortunately, she sleeps with any guy who comes along, and she has more than one disease to prove it. :/ Along with some bruises, too. I've warned a few of them that if I hear they've been hitting her, there will be consequences..


Stunnedbygrace said:
This is why I was suggesting others to give you a break for getting a little cranked up with teachers of the law and for the remark about firing squads and electric chairs. :)
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Danoded said:
God forbid. Why are people using such abhorrent and sick examples to try and prove their point? In any case, would one not call the police and chase the intruder out of their house, without attacking them?

Also, the only Bible I recognise is the King James Bible, not these other translations rooted in evil, and in the KJB, Jesus clearly tells the soldiers to "do violence to no man", and we should abide by this rule.
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If an attacker is in your house there is no way you're going to protect yourself and family without attacking him. Chasing him out of the house is not going to cut it unless you're at least using a broom and whack him in the head with the handle. Multiple times. Forcibly.
 
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And at no point did Jesus threaten anyone, or once raise his fist. When Jesus was being mocked and spat on, did he ever retaliate? Did ever show resentment towards those that sought to kill him? He called us to be peackeepers, as well as meek, not seeking to wrong those that have wronged us.
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I don't understand why this guy is being given any credibility at all

says he was saved since birth and says he is 18

makes outrageous and baiting posts like this:

Why are people using such abhorrent and sick examples to try and prove their point? In any case, would one not call the police and chase the intruder out of their house, without attacking them?

Also, the only Bible I recognise is the King James Bible, not these other translations rooted in evil, and in the KJB, Jesus clearly tells the soldiers to "do violence to no man", and we should abide by this rule.
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would watch while his mother, sister, girlfriend...any female...is battered beyond recognition and who knows...maybe help kick her and beat her?

what nationality are you danoded? how were you brought up?

obviously has no respect for women and not scripture either

does not know what salvation is because no one is saved from birth

happy trolling
 
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blue_ladybug said:
I'm sorry, but this subject always gets me riled up. I've seen my cousin get abused by many of her..umm.."acquaintances".. Unfortunately, she sleeps with any guy who comes along, and she has more than one disease to prove it. :/ Along with some bruises, too. I've warned a few of them that if I hear they've been hitting her, there will be consequences..
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We understood you. We understood why you were riled up. At least those of us who committed to the exercise of the thread rather than giving law and running back out understood you.
We know at least a little about you and your heart. ;)
 
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If an attacker is in your house there is no way you're going to protect yourself and family without attacking him. Chasing him out of the house is not going to cut it unless you're at least using a broom and whack him in the head with the handle. Multiple times. Forcibly.
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Perhaps a feather duster he would permit...?:rolleyes:
 
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I always get riled up over domestic abuse. I ALWAYS get yelled at every time, for telling the woman to leave her abuser, but there's no way in heck I'm gonna tell her to stay and get battered and killed. If people can't understand that, then they don't know me at all. I DON'T advocate divorce like some believe I do, but I will NEVER advise an abused woman to stay and get beaten to a bloody pulp, either.

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We understood you. We understood why you were riled up. At least those of us who committed to the exercise of the thread rather than giving law and running back out understood you.
We know at least a little about you and your heart. ;)
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