Can a battered wife file for divorce?
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Honestly, I always want to know the spirit of the law. I believe I have Gods mind on it here. The spirit does not regard a temporary thing like human marriage which will one day be done away with. The spirit is in regard to what will be eternal.
And what Gods' law says is comforting in this respect - that the only reason He would ever consider divorce is for adultery.
What is adultery in spirit?
And what Gods' law says is comforting in this respect - that the only reason He would ever consider divorce is for adultery.
What is adultery in spirit?
It happens.
Exactly how do you propose to chase them out of your house without attacking them?
What if he fought you?
That's your problem. It's causing you to miss what Jesus actually said.
That is not what Jesus clearly told the soldiers. Strictly adhering to the KJV as "the" Bible causes you to miss the truth.
Exactly how do you propose to chase them out of your house without attacking them?
What if he fought you?
That's your problem. It's causing you to miss what Jesus actually said.
That is not what Jesus clearly told the soldiers. Strictly adhering to the KJV as "the" Bible causes you to miss the truth.
if I didn't, I definitely would be 'dead' now, etc, for my babies...
the question is, 'would that have been a 'bad thing', considering what I lost???
at least my children are alive, even without me!!!
but, as those of us who Love and Know and Trust Jesus, one day,
we will be reunited in His Holy Love by The Holy Faith that He
have given to me...
the question is, 'would that have been a 'bad thing', considering what I lost???
at least my children are alive, even without me!!!
but, as those of us who Love and Know and Trust Jesus, one day,
we will be reunited in His Holy Love by The Holy Faith that He
have given to me...
Had you read my post #109, you would not have made this remark. Here is what I said (out of several options):
2. Threaten to depart if it ever happens again, and follow through. The departure is not necessarily divorce. The man may repent and relent after he comes to his senses. If not she is better off without him.
It is the people recommending divorce right off the bat who are showing hard-heartedness. Bullies and wife-beaters are showing symptoms which are really a cry for help. They have a spiritual problem, and if we are to display the love of Christ, then our focus should be on helping the aggressor deal with his real problem -- separation from God and no ability to deal with the real issues of life. They need Christ within, and firstly they need to have the Gospel presented and then challenged to repent and believe.
So just read my post #109, which even recommends lessons in self -defense.
2. Threaten to depart if it ever happens again, and follow through. The departure is not necessarily divorce. The man may repent and relent after he comes to his senses. If not she is better off without him.
It is the people recommending divorce right off the bat who are showing hard-heartedness. Bullies and wife-beaters are showing symptoms which are really a cry for help. They have a spiritual problem, and if we are to display the love of Christ, then our focus should be on helping the aggressor deal with his real problem -- separation from God and no ability to deal with the real issues of life. They need Christ within, and firstly they need to have the Gospel presented and then challenged to repent and believe.
So just read my post #109, which even recommends lessons in self -defense.
Divorce is required for a person to then go on and marry another.
The statement i made in read is true is it not? Divorce is needed when a woman or a man for that matter wants to marry another person.. This is Biblical law.. If they don't divorce before remarrying then they are committing adultry.. So if a woman is being violently abused and just wants to end the abuse she can simply leave the man and has no need to obtain a divorce to stop the violence.. Divorce is only necessary when she wants to marry another man..
I disagree with your belief that God allows divorce because of abuse and or threat of murder.. The Bible only gives Adultery and if a Christian has an unbelieving husband or wife who wants a divorce as the allowed reasons for a divorce.. Again a woman does not need a divorce to get away fro a violent man and end the violence..
The part in red is what I was referring to. Many married abused women don't even want to bother with divorce until AFTER they are safe and their abuser is locked up. In that time, if they're lucky, they can move away, change their name and never get bothered by their abuser again. I for one absolutely believe that God makes allowance for divorce, in the case of physical abuse and/ or possible murder.
Many married abused women don't even want to bother with divorce until AFTER they are safe and their abuser is locked up. In that time, if they're lucky, they can move away, change their name and never get bothered by their abuser again. I for one absolutely believe that God makes allowance for divorce, in the case of physical abuse and/ or possible murder.
I disagree with your belief that God allows divorce because of abuse and or threat of murder.. The Bible only gives Adultery and if a Christian has an unbelieving husband or wife who wants a divorce as the allowed reasons for a divorce.. Again a woman does not need a divorce to get away fro a violent man and end the violence..
Because, as Tourist said in one of his posts, God expects us to use common sense and wisdom in such a situation as domestic violence.. You and others are only seeing this from the divorce aspect of this. But you're forgetting that GOD WILL FORGIVE the woman for divorcing her abusive partner.
Or would you rather she stay and get murdered? Funny how I've asked that question several times and yet nobody has the moxie to answer it. :/
Or would you rather she stay and get murdered? Funny how I've asked that question several times and yet nobody has the moxie to answer it. :/
Give a sister a break. If you read the thread, she actually went through this trauma, so she had her mama bear claws out. She was in protect mode against lawyers who make the law a heavy burden on women and children while leaving out weightier matters of the law. Is her heart perfect yet? Is yours? We're getting there. He works on all of us. None of us have yet learned to be perfect in forgiveness.
This was an exercise Marcelo gave us. If it were real, ladybug would not really advocate slaughtering the man. She would get around to compassion for his misery eventually after the victims were safe and had been shown mercy and justice. She'd probably say something like...get him in prison where he can't continue attempting to murder weaker people and we'll try to help him from there if God is willing. She would get around to compassion even for him and even after what she herself went through because God would see to it with her.
This was an exercise Marcelo gave us. If it were real, ladybug would not really advocate slaughtering the man. She would get around to compassion for his misery eventually after the victims were safe and had been shown mercy and justice. She'd probably say something like...get him in prison where he can't continue attempting to murder weaker people and we'll try to help him from there if God is willing. She would get around to compassion even for him and even after what she herself went through because God would see to it with her.
And why did He not attack or defend against those who murdered Him? Wasn't it it for your sake? He could have called legions of angels. But then you would never have been saved. And will He one day be violent with certain men? Yes He will. When the time of the gentiles is full. He will come from the east and His robe will be soaked in blood and blood will be like a river in the streets, even up to the horses bridles. The horses will be wading through it.
Go read some more as you have received good counsel to do so. Read and pray. A lot.
Go read some more as you have received good counsel to do so. Read and pray. A lot.
This thread is about divorce.. Yeah life can be very traumatic when a person marries a psychopath or an insanely jealous man or even a borderline personality disordered woman.. But the message i was giving was that a woman does not need to get a divorce to escape such a situation.. I have never and will never advocate for woman or men to stay in abusive homes and relationships.. But again a woman does not need to get a divorce to be freed from such situations..