The scriptures 2009
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I have prepared a lot of information to discuss various issues with JW's when they come to my door. I had a few women with their trainees come to my door, when I first moved here in 2015. I invited them to come back for a Bible study. Instead, I got 2 fairly good looking, charismatic 40ish men at my door, the next time. No trainees.
So, I invited them in for a Bible study, right then and there. They asked about my Greek, and I told them I was just finishing my second year of it, and how much it had enriched my study of the Bible. They kept saying how amazing it was for a woman to study the Greek to study the Bible. Ok, I'm used to that sort of thing from CC. LOL
But, they wouldn't come in. Next time, for sure. I said, you bring your material and I'll work with my Greek Bible and some tools. Great, great, great! I could hardly wait!
You guessed it, no one ever returned. Well, there is throwing pearls before swine. I guess God didn't want me wasting my time on men who were obviously leaders within their organization, because no amount of evidence, would have convinced them? Well, they know I am here!
If you want a good new Bible, try the NET! New English Translation. I am going to buy the long notes versions. It has the notes on why they made every translational decision they made, and some of the top Biblical scholars in the world on the committee.
So, I invited them in for a Bible study, right then and there. They asked about my Greek, and I told them I was just finishing my second year of it, and how much it had enriched my study of the Bible. They kept saying how amazing it was for a woman to study the Greek to study the Bible. Ok, I'm used to that sort of thing from CC. LOL
But, they wouldn't come in. Next time, for sure. I said, you bring your material and I'll work with my Greek Bible and some tools. Great, great, great! I could hardly wait!
You guessed it, no one ever returned. Well, there is throwing pearls before swine. I guess God didn't want me wasting my time on men who were obviously leaders within their organization, because no amount of evidence, would have convinced them? Well, they know I am here!
If you want a good new Bible, try the NET! New English Translation. I am going to buy the long notes versions. It has the notes on why they made every translational decision they made, and some of the top Biblical scholars in the world on the committee.
One must be careful here as some claim to believe in the divinity of Christ so we must know what they mean. This does not mean the same thing (to some) as deity, as they will deny the latter and embrace the former. Some on here use this language and fool others into thinking they believe in the deity of Christ when they do not.
It is then safer to say that those who deny his deity are heretical.
It is then safer to say that those who deny his deity are heretical.
While I agree.....I am fairly confident that most if not all on this site knew I was referencing the fact that he is God and or his deity 
I as well, yet what I posted is for those who may not know the difference. Arians state it as "divinity" and people read "deity" into it. It is highly improbable all on this site are aware of this, I mean, just look at some threads and what people say they believe.
Sounds to me, that (an) "Over Romanticizing" Jesus, as "Jehovah's Savior" (a true love is blind scenario) elicits too much credit to the Only begotten, of the Father, and not the Everlasting Father!
It is important we make this distinction between the 2. If Jesus did indeed create ALL? THEN? He would know the end, From The Beginning! Right? To give an illustration, "This is my Son!" "I gave My Son, ALL My Authority, All My Power, and all that He knows!" "What My son doesn't have, is ALL that "I" know!"
Meaning, that when Jesus' Disciples asked Him, when He would return? Jesus could tell them what the times would be like.
Yet Jesus COULDN'T say when He would return! Why? One might ask? It wasn't HIS DECISION TO MAKE! What was it that Jesus said when asked? Oh yeah! "Only My/The Father in Heaven KNOWS!" And, when believer's try to say outright, or even allude by saying "Well!...He didn't know THEN...But, He knows NOW!" They are just, in these eyes, and others, as well, admitting culpability, and, if not corrected? In serious jeopardy, of believing a LIE!
You see? Even God the Father's only begotten, would not usurp, nor even ASSUME His Father's Place! But, the spirit of "INSTEAD OF (anti) Christ" WOULD, and, has!
Having said this?
Is Jesus Christ worthy of worship and praise, as The Father's only begotten, and AS GOD the Father Himself? NO!
Is Jesus Christ worthy of worship and praise as High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer, as Jehovah's Savior, and, ONLY WAY to the Father? YES!
As God, or Jehovah's only begotten? ABSOLUTELY! But, don't allow your praise and worship of the Son, to cloud your judgement to WHO the Father is! When this happens? You have become part of the problem!
It is important we make this distinction between the 2. If Jesus did indeed create ALL? THEN? He would know the end, From The Beginning! Right? To give an illustration, "This is my Son!" "I gave My Son, ALL My Authority, All My Power, and all that He knows!" "What My son doesn't have, is ALL that "I" know!"
Meaning, that when Jesus' Disciples asked Him, when He would return? Jesus could tell them what the times would be like.
Yet Jesus COULDN'T say when He would return! Why? One might ask? It wasn't HIS DECISION TO MAKE! What was it that Jesus said when asked? Oh yeah! "Only My/The Father in Heaven KNOWS!" And, when believer's try to say outright, or even allude by saying "Well!...He didn't know THEN...But, He knows NOW!" They are just, in these eyes, and others, as well, admitting culpability, and, if not corrected? In serious jeopardy, of believing a LIE!
You see? Even God the Father's only begotten, would not usurp, nor even ASSUME His Father's Place! But, the spirit of "INSTEAD OF (anti) Christ" WOULD, and, has!
Having said this?
Is Jesus Christ worthy of worship and praise, as The Father's only begotten, and AS GOD the Father Himself? NO!
Is Jesus Christ worthy of worship and praise as High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer, as Jehovah's Savior, and, ONLY WAY to the Father? YES!
As God, or Jehovah's only begotten? ABSOLUTELY! But, don't allow your praise and worship of the Son, to cloud your judgement to WHO the Father is! When this happens? You have become part of the problem!
Why Thank you! (I think! ) While you are thinking on that? Think about the "order of Melchizedek", and, if there is only ONE Priest, that constitutes an "order." A forever (Holy) Priesthood, mind ya! And, think about "Entertaining Angels (messengers) UNawares.
Also, It would stand to reason, in a mind, that the Apostle Paul was aware, of these "unseen messengers." To what extent, one might ask? Enough of an extent that he wrote about it!
What is it that Paul had, or has, that believers of today, do not?
A) "Levels of access", with which (a) discernment is given (parable of the talents, Fathers House, many Mansions (meno. which means "abide WITH, and IN")
B) "Levels of Authority", which carries with it much obligation/ and responsibilities. Not to mention commitment, and a "certain amount" of Loyalty, AND "reverence, or fear."
And we all read where Paul did perform Miracles.
So what happened? Much like in the days of Ezra - Nehemiah, and even before then, Priests got lazy, and instead of doing each one's Holy Tasks themselves, as God had commanded them? They "farmed it out" to "Temple Slaves!"
Correct. "Divinity" can be applied to lesser gods (false gods) or even spirits. The JWs and Mormons have Jesus as "a god" in John 1:1 and in their teachings, but they certainly do not hold to the Deity of Christ (that He is in fact God the Son).
Also, modern Bible versions have attacked the Deity of Christ in a variety of ways, but that is a subject for another thread. There was a Unitarian on the Revision Committee for the English Revised Version (1881) who was delighted that the word "God" with reference to Christ was gratuitously expunged from 1 Timothy 3:16.
Also, modern Bible versions have attacked the Deity of Christ in a variety of ways, but that is a subject for another thread. There was a Unitarian on the Revision Committee for the English Revised Version (1881) who was delighted that the word "God" with reference to Christ was gratuitously expunged from 1 Timothy 3:16.
@Stunnedbygrace,
A little late I know, but I found something out about this bible on https://www.bibliatodo.com/en/search-bible?s=renewed&version=the-scriptures-2009&ant=nt
Here's a few examples:
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, ?This cup is the renewed covenant in My blood. As often as you drink it, do this in remembrance of Me.?
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us competent as servants of a renewed covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit, for the letter kills but the Spirit gives life.
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Messiah, he is a renewed creature ? the old matters have passed away, see, all matters have become renewed!d Footnote: d Rom 6:2-22, Gal 2:20, Eph 4:22-24, Col 3:10, 1Jn 3:9-10.
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Peter 3:13
But according to His promise we wait for a renewed heavens and a renewed earth Isa 65:17, Isa 66:22 in which righteousness dwells.
Other versionssee the chapter
IMO, this seems to be a Judiazer bible of some sort.
If there's this much mistranslation on one word, there's probably more than this in it.
A little late I know, but I found something out about this bible on https://www.bibliatodo.com/en/search-bible?s=renewed&version=the-scriptures-2009&ant=nt
Here's a few examples:
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, ?This cup is the renewed covenant in My blood. As often as you drink it, do this in remembrance of Me.?
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us competent as servants of a renewed covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit, for the letter kills but the Spirit gives life.
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Messiah, he is a renewed creature ? the old matters have passed away, see, all matters have become renewed!d Footnote: d Rom 6:2-22, Gal 2:20, Eph 4:22-24, Col 3:10, 1Jn 3:9-10.
Other versionssee the chapter
2 Peter 3:13
But according to His promise we wait for a renewed heavens and a renewed earth Isa 65:17, Isa 66:22 in which righteousness dwells.
Other versionssee the chapter
IMO, this seems to be a Judiazer bible of some sort.
If there's this much mistranslation on one word, there's probably more than this in it.