Is the great biblical flood real or not?

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BillG

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I remember asking my wife
Do you believe God created the world in seven days?
She said yes.
I asked why.

She said because he is God, unlimited and not constrained by our thoughts and understanding
 
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Do you believe that there was life on earth that was wiped out by a flood previous to the creation of Adam and Eve? If that is what you are promoting, there is no Biblical basis for it. Please note, I am not saying it is wrong to believe that, but since this is the Bible Discussion Forum, this may not be the proper place to be trying to discuss such things.

What are the DIFFERENCES (if ANY) between the following TWO VERSES (across multiples bibles)?


Psalm 104:7 But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;

New International Version
But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;

New Living Translation
At your command, the water fled; at the sound of your thunder, it hurried away.

English Standard Version
At your rebuke they fled; at the sound of your thunder they took to flight.

New American Standard Bible
At Your rebuke they fled, At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away.

King James Bible
At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
At Your rebuke the waters fled; at the sound of Your thunder they hurried away--

International Standard Version
They flee at your rebuke; they rush away at the sound of your thunders.

NET Bible
Your shout made the waters retreat; at the sound of your thunderous voice they hurried off--

New Heart English Bible
At your rebuke they fled. At the voice of your thunder they hurried away.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
From your rebuke they flee and they hasten from the voice of your thunders.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
and fled because of your threat. Water ran away at the sound of your thunder.

JPS Tanakh 1917
At Thy rebuke they fled, At the voice of Thy thunder they hasted away--

New American Standard 1977
At Thy rebuke they fled;
At the sound of Thy thunder they hurried away.

Jubilee Bible 2000
At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

King James 2000 Bible
At your rebuke they fled; at the voice of your thunder they hastened away.

American King James Version
At your rebuke they fled; at the voice of your thunder they hurried away.

American Standard Version
At thy rebuke they fled; At the voice of thy thunder they hasted away

Douay-Rheims Bible
At thy rebuke they shall flee: at the voice of thy thunder they shall fear.

Darby Bible Translation
At thy rebuke they fled, at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away; --

English Revised Version
At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away;

Webster's Bible Translation
At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

World English Bible
At your rebuke they fled. At the voice of your thunder they hurried away.

Young's Literal Translation
From Thy rebuke they flee, From the voice of Thy thunder haste away.



http://biblehub.com/multi/genesis/8-5.htm

New International Version
The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible.

New Living Translation
Two and a half months later, as the waters continued to go down, other mountain peaks became visible.

English Standard Version
And the waters continued to abate until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.

New American Standard Bible
The water decreased steadily until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains became visible.

King James Bible
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The waters continued to recede until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were visible.

International Standard Version
The flood water continued to recede until the tenth month, when, on the first of that month, the tops of the mountains could be seen.

NET Bible
The waters kept on receding until the tenth month. On the first day of the tenth month, the tops of the mountains became visible.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The water kept decreasing until the tenth month. On the first day of the tenth month, the tops of the mountains appeared.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.

King James 2000 Bible
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

American King James Version
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

American Standard Version
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the waters were going and decreasing until the tenth month: for in the tenth month, the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains appeared.

Darby Bible Translation
And the waters abated continually until the tenth month: in the tenth [month], on the first of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.

English Revised Version
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

Webster's Bible Translation
And the waters decreased continually, till the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

World English Bible
The waters receded continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.

Young's Literal Translation
and the waters have been going and becoming lacking till the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first of the month, appeared the heads of the mountains.
 
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BillG

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Yes that's true.
Which to be honest with you I really do not stress over young earth or not.
All I know it's that there is a creator and that is God.

We can get hung up on 7 days or not. Not a hill to die on. The focus should be in the hill that Jesus died on.

I could not disagree more! I believe the focus should be on His RESURRECTION instead of His DEATH!
 

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If Christ had not been crucified and died, there would have been no resurrection. The focus should be on all.
 
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If Christ had not been crucified and died, there would have been no resurrection. The focus should be on all.

1 Corinthians 15:20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. 20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
 
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The Gap Theory they call it. I'm not convinced myself but it is the belief of some Christians. It isn't new. It's based on Genesis 1

Genesis 1:2. “The earth was without form, and void.” It is suggested that the Hebrew word hâyâh (היה), usually translated “was,” could be translated as “became.” So the verse would read: “The earth became without form and void.”

It seems to me like you can make up anything you like to fit in the middle. They call it "science" ;)

If you can't find the evidence to back up your theory you can always invent dark matter or something.

There is another point that you have not mentioned! God told Adam and Eve to RE-PLENISH the earth! Why would that be the language, if in fact, Adam and Eve were the FIRST humans on earth?


King James Bible
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
 

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PS

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Here is the evidence that shows it is indeed real

I have the images to show you but I cannot upload them & I don't know why?
Try to remember that the Bible is all about Eretz Yisrael. When people visit Israel they are going to "The Land of Israel" but the land of Israel does not cover the whole globe and neither did the flood. Let the Bible explain itself.

In Exodus 10:5 a plague of Locusts "covered the face of the whole earth."
Quite clearly the locusts did not cover the whole globe, they only covered the land of Egypt and then probably not all of it.

In Numbers 22:5,11 we read that after the Israelites were delivered from Egypt and settled in Canaan they "Covered the face of the earth."
This is simply their way of saying they occupied the land in which they were dwelling.

When Cain went to the Land of Nod the Bible says "Behold thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Gen 4:14) The earth for him was the place where he lived.

When the devil tempted Jesus he took him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. The kingdoms of the world were what they could see i.e. local. (Matthew 4:8)

The same idiom is used to describe the Israelite conquest of Canaan,
Deut 2:25 This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you on the peoples who are under the whole heaven, who shall hear the report of you and shall tremble and be in anguish because of you.

Incas and Inuit weren't trembling in anguish, it was the people in the region, Canaanites Moabites and Edomites.

When the Bible talks about the whole land or the face of the earth, it means the land or the earth of Israel and not the whole globe. Noah did not go collecting animals from all seven continents, they would have been local to him.
 

JaumeJ

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I have noted some folks here are explainging God, and even making theoretical excuses for teh greatness of the recounting of the flood.

Faith is in things unseen, things that need not be proven by material facts and details. Some here are secret Darwinians I fear.
 
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Great! so now we all know that we cannot trust (or at least we cannot apply English language standards) from the King James versions of the bible! At least that somewhat narrows the field of bible versions that we can rely on! Here is ANOTHER case in point, which supports my position about the KJV bible versions being misleading:


Bible Search: command ye me

The link immediately above launches a search for the phrase "command ye me," on biblehub.com. The ONLY place that specific phrase is found is in the KJV bible(s). But the COMPARATIVE language for that same verse indicates that God is NOT PLEASED with people trying to "tell Him what to do," yet the KJV reads like it is OKAY to command God, and tell Him what to do ... as if mankind was given AUTHORITY to "command God" in certain matters! Read the OTHER bible versions in that same verse below, and see for YOURSELF how misleading the KJV is, in that particular verse!

Isaiah 45:11 "This is what the LORD says-- the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker: Concerning things to come, do you question me about my children, or give me orders about the work of my hands?
 
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That verse is not saying one of GOD's days is a thousand years. That verse if taken in context to the chapter is relating to the LORD's patience.

And the biblical PROOFS of your statements of conjecture immediately above can be found exactly WHERE?
 

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Absolutely. Noah's Ark was found decades ago and I believe the large reptiles were made extinct by the flood. There's evidence of piles of dinosaur bones washed into low areas.