Is Trump the mouth in Daniel 7 & 8?
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That's very interesting. Some might see this move of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem as the one standing where he ought not to stand.
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
The Abomination of Desolation is not an embassy. No American President is proposing to put an embassy on the Temple Mount! It's a farcical suggestion. I'll write more when I stop laughing.
you have said it:
here, too
we agree on that point as well
here, too
we agree on that point as well
A man who hardens his neck after much reproof
Will suddenly be broken beyond remedy.
When the righteous increase, the people rejoice,
But when a wicked man rules, people groan.
A man who loves wisdom makes his father glad,
But he who keeps company with harlots wastes his wealth.
The king gives stability to the land by justice,
But a man who takes bribes overthrows it.
Will suddenly be broken beyond remedy.
When the righteous increase, the people rejoice,
But when a wicked man rules, people groan.
A man who loves wisdom makes his father glad,
But he who keeps company with harlots wastes his wealth.
The king gives stability to the land by justice,
But a man who takes bribes overthrows it.
(Proverbs 29:1-4)
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Romans 13, where it's told to us that we should give to every authority the honor they are due because they are appointed by God, was written while Nero was emperor. ((famous pathological guy))
so my place is to respect the POTUS as POTUS even when he is a pathological liar - at the same time not ignoring the facts. if there was a way to honor Nero as emperor without commending sin, there is a way to honor Trump as well.
so my place is to respect the POTUS as POTUS even when he is a pathological liar - at the same time not ignoring the facts. if there was a way to honor Nero as emperor without commending sin, there is a way to honor Trump as well.
I would have voted for Bernie Sanders for President, had the DNC not thrown him under the bus.
I believe all Presidents have lied to varying degrees, but none on the level of our current President.
He constantly trashes truth, and therefore IMHO meets the criteria for the mouth who casts truth to the ground (Daniel 8:12).
Daniel 8:12 [FONT="]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,[/FONT][FONT="] and it cast down the truth to the ground[/FONT][FONT="]; and it practised, and prospered.[/FONT]
I believe all Presidents have lied to varying degrees, but none on the level of our current President.
He constantly trashes truth, and therefore IMHO meets the criteria for the mouth who casts truth to the ground (Daniel 8:12).
Daniel 8:12 [FONT="]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,[/FONT][FONT="] and it cast down the truth to the ground[/FONT][FONT="]; and it practised, and prospered.[/FONT]
Sanders threw himself under the bus and was bought off. This Communist had every reason and opportunity to run a fair and square campaign, which would have meant exposing Crooked Hillary. Instead he played games and then the DNC played games. All liars to the core.
This is so far out of line that it totally destroys your credibility. Obama lied from the get-go (with a forged birth certificate) and you gave him a pass? He was also a committed Muslim pretending to be a Christian and ensuring that Christians worldwide suffered under his deception. He also had a mouth speaking great things and accomplishing nothing. But absolutely nobody charged him with treason or talked about impeaching him. Don't you think it is strange that Satan's minion gets a pass while a man who seeks to do right is attacked at every opportunity?
This is so far out of line that it totally destroys your credibility. Obama lied from the get-go (with a forged birth certificate) and you gave him a pass? He was also a committed Muslim pretending to be a Christian and ensuring that Christians worldwide suffered under his deception. He also had a mouth speaking great things and accomplishing nothing. But absolutely nobody charged him with treason or talked about impeaching him. Don't you think it is strange that Satan's minion gets a pass while a man who seeks to do right is attacked at every opportunity?
Correct, we are to honor the king as the Lord has appointed all world leaders
(1 Peter 2:13 & 17).
However, these appointees, or better said, allowed to rule entities have been chosen by Satan; to whom the earth is currently under his rule (Luke 4:6).
The beast and Antichrist will likewise be allowed by the Lord to rule as they wish for a period of time (Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5).
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
(1 Peter 2:13 & 17).
However, these appointees, or better said, allowed to rule entities have been chosen by Satan; to whom the earth is currently under his rule (Luke 4:6).
The beast and Antichrist will likewise be allowed by the Lord to rule as they wish for a period of time (Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5).
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Indeed righteousness exalteth a nation, and America is being made great again on all fronts.
Indeed a good proverb showing President Trump's nature and the nature of his wicked opponents. The traitors stiffen their neck at right reproach and they have been broken. The righteous increase and the people of America rejoice. When the traitorous globalists ruled for decades and the people groaned daily. President Trump made his father very proud, and my father and my grandfather are very happy that I support President Trump unlike my fallen cousins. Compare to Obama the literal bastard whose father did not even want him. President Trump has accrued great wealth to himself and is making America stable and prosperous again. President Trump refused to take any bribes, but Bush, Obama, Bill & Hillary ,and Bernie's hands were full of them.
A great Proverb proving President Trump is the first Christian President of my lifetime, and who knows, perhaps the only one we will get.
Indeed a good proverb showing President Trump's nature and the nature of his wicked opponents. The traitors stiffen their neck at right reproach and they have been broken. The righteous increase and the people of America rejoice. When the traitorous globalists ruled for decades and the people groaned daily. President Trump made his father very proud, and my father and my grandfather are very happy that I support President Trump unlike my fallen cousins. Compare to Obama the literal bastard whose father did not even want him. President Trump has accrued great wealth to himself and is making America stable and prosperous again. President Trump refused to take any bribes, but Bush, Obama, Bill & Hillary ,and Bernie's hands were full of them.
A great Proverb proving President Trump is the first Christian President of my lifetime, and who knows, perhaps the only one we will get.
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Seeing there are people here with Canadian and British flags over their names, I will then have to say that Trump does seem to have made an impression on these individuals. I wonder what it is specifically that has them so fervently in favor of someone who supposedly is of no benefit to them? Is it his anti immigration policies, or something else?
They can talk about peace in the Middle East,and Trump can too,and they can talk about the microchip given to people on temporary visas,and Trump can too.
But it is only talk because they really do not want someone to mediate for peace in the Middle East,or at least succeed at it,and they do not want to give the microchip to someone,or if they do it will be limited to the people,and will not be world wide.
They want those things to be done by a certain man who has an upbringing in the occult,and believes in no personal God,but honors the God of forces,or the power of nature as his God,and believes people can still evolve through nature.
They are only throwing things out there,but they want a certain man to establish peace in the Middle East,and to implement the microchip on a world wide level in the future.
The world believes in evolution,and does much things with the power of nature in mind,and it appears they want to establish the new age movement interpretation of the Bible in the world,based on spiritual evolution through nature,for they believe people can still evolve,looking at God as the force of nature.
This certain man is not Trump,nor anyone else you have seen,and he wants to come in and work among the people like no one else ever did,and do what no person has ever done,and that is to claim peace for the world,and rule the world,being prepared to be the New Age Christ.
Since he wants to be unlike any other person,and do what nobody else has ever done,and appear as greater than any other person,than it would be beneath him,and an insult to him,and a hindrance to his agenda to compete with people in the things they compete with for positions of power,and authority,and rule,and in the position that he is trying to attain to rule the world there is no competition for that but he is the only one.
So he will not be involved in politics,military,business,and religious positions,where people compete with people,or are elected by people.
Also the mouth in Daniel will have no desire for women,for he will not date,will not court,will not have a girlfriend,and will not be married,will not have children,for he has no time for that for he is only pursuing ruling the world,and he pushes homosexuality for population reduction on precious mother earth.
Trump is not the mouth of Daniel,for he is in the public eye as a business man,and politician,and the mouth of Daniel would not do that for it is beneath him.Trump competes for positions with other people,and the man of sin does not.
But it is only talk because they really do not want someone to mediate for peace in the Middle East,or at least succeed at it,and they do not want to give the microchip to someone,or if they do it will be limited to the people,and will not be world wide.
They want those things to be done by a certain man who has an upbringing in the occult,and believes in no personal God,but honors the God of forces,or the power of nature as his God,and believes people can still evolve through nature.
They are only throwing things out there,but they want a certain man to establish peace in the Middle East,and to implement the microchip on a world wide level in the future.
The world believes in evolution,and does much things with the power of nature in mind,and it appears they want to establish the new age movement interpretation of the Bible in the world,based on spiritual evolution through nature,for they believe people can still evolve,looking at God as the force of nature.
This certain man is not Trump,nor anyone else you have seen,and he wants to come in and work among the people like no one else ever did,and do what no person has ever done,and that is to claim peace for the world,and rule the world,being prepared to be the New Age Christ.
Since he wants to be unlike any other person,and do what nobody else has ever done,and appear as greater than any other person,than it would be beneath him,and an insult to him,and a hindrance to his agenda to compete with people in the things they compete with for positions of power,and authority,and rule,and in the position that he is trying to attain to rule the world there is no competition for that but he is the only one.
So he will not be involved in politics,military,business,and religious positions,where people compete with people,or are elected by people.
Also the mouth in Daniel will have no desire for women,for he will not date,will not court,will not have a girlfriend,and will not be married,will not have children,for he has no time for that for he is only pursuing ruling the world,and he pushes homosexuality for population reduction on precious mother earth.
Trump is not the mouth of Daniel,for he is in the public eye as a business man,and politician,and the mouth of Daniel would not do that for it is beneath him.Trump competes for positions with other people,and the man of sin does not.
Spin off topic. That's the way to keep from going forward.
I will state again, as I've already stated a few times here: I do not know if Trump is the mouth of the beast, but whoever the mouth of the beast is, he will have many of the characteristics our current President possesses.
In particular is Trumps hatred for truth, which the Antichrist will likewise hate.
Daniel 8:12 [FONT="]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.[/FONT]
I will state again, as I've already stated a few times here: I do not know if Trump is the mouth of the beast, but whoever the mouth of the beast is, he will have many of the characteristics our current President possesses.
In particular is Trumps hatred for truth, which the Antichrist will likewise hate.
Daniel 8:12 [FONT="]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.[/FONT]
Does not the little horn, (aka the beasts mouth, the false prophet), cause craft to prosper according to Daniel 8:24-25, and thereby shows him to be very much into business?
Daniel 8:24 [FONT="]And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.[/FONT][FONT="]25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.[/FONT]
Daniel 8:24 [FONT="]And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.[/FONT][FONT="]25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.[/FONT]