Why "Empathy" Is Not In The Bible

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Lighthearted

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I understand what you are saying here, but someone who has gone through what the hurting person is going through, can certainly identify...have 'empathy'

15 [FONT=&quot]For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin Hebrews 4:15

the above verse certainly demonstrates the meaning of the word empathy


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We can not completely empathize with any one else. We can try.
I lost my father to colon cancer. I was with Him when He passed...caring for Him around the clock. I knew it was time. I told Him to go with the Lord. He took His last breath with my hand on His heart.
Here's truth...and what I believe only Jesus can truly empathize.

Many people have lost their fathers...yes.
Many of those fathers did not go through the journey of my dads colon cancer.
Perhaps they had their fathers in hospice care instead of doing it themselves.
Perhaps their relationship with their father wasn't like the relationship I had with my father. I suffered through 14 years of sexual abuse with my father. No one can understand except Jesus...because He was with me through it all.
You know, my sister takes His death in a different way as me. Of course we both went through the loss of the same person. We both loved him. Our relationships we're very different. His death affected us differently.
I am glad He is no longer in pain and suffering. I am glad He is with His savior. My sister is lost, devastated, angry, hurt. She hasn't come close to closure.
I would think she would be happy that He is no longer in pain and with Jesus. I just don't relate to how she is taking all of this.
And my brother...not even going to try to understand him.
I can sympathize because we lost our dad. I can not empathize with their feelings on the matter.
See the difference?
 
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Lighthearted

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People are different so everything effects us each on an individual basis. You could say, you went through that with your dad...
No you didn't. There may be similarities...but we are a diverse p eople. Our journeys are different. God made us different. Each one of us is a masterpiece...created for His purpose.
We have different levels of emotions. Something that makes me heart sad...might make you angry.
 
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We can not completely empathize with any one else. We can try.
I lost my father to colon cancer. I was with Him when He passed...caring for Him around the clock. I knew it was time. I told Him to go with the Lord. He took His last breath with my hand on His heart.
Here's truth...and what I believe only Jesus can truly empathize.

Many people have lost their fathers...yes.
Many of those fathers did not go through the journey of my dads colon cancer.
Perhaps they had their fathers in hospice care instead of doing it themselves.
Perhaps their relationship with their father wasn't like the relationship I had with my father. I suffered through 14 years of sexual abuse with my father. No one can understand except Jesus...because He was with me through it all.
You know, my sister takes His death in a different way as me. Of course we both went through the loss of the same person. We both loved him. Our relationships we're very different. His death affected us differently.
I am glad He is no longer in pain and suffering. I am glad He is with His savior. My sister is lost, devastated, angry, hurt. She hasn't come close to closure.
I would think she would be happy that He is no longer in pain and with Jesus. I just don't relate to how she is taking all of this.
And my brother...not even going to try to understand him.
I can sympathize because we lost our dad. I can not empathize with their feelings on the matter.
See the difference?

well what I see is you trying to say something I didn't say and neither does the Bible

but if you like it, it's all yours

thanks
 

stillness

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"Lean not on your understanding but trust in the Lord."
Concern for others and feeling for them doesn't help them and weighs us down.
Jesus was moved by compassion and healed them that believe.
There has to be room in our hearts to receive Love: Not full of ourselves.
We learn to Love as God Loves in suffering with Christ.
 

JohnRH

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Empathy is a made up concept pushed by the American Psychological Assoc.
Are you saying that the word "empathy" didn't exist before the American Psychological Assoc came into existence?
 

Shamah

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You can find the words "sympathy" and "compassion" in the Bible but not "empathy". Why? Because you can have feelings FOR another person but you can't have the feelings OF another person. Empathy is a made up concept pushed by the American Psychological Assoc. (A political activist group) that you lack empathy if you aren't for a centralized socialist government take over. You are lower on the evolution scale if you reject global warming, gay marriage, no religion, gun confiscation, Marxism, etc.
I agree with you about the things that take our freedoms under the guise of "utopia"

but all these words you mention are engliosh words, none of these words are in the Hebrew or Greek texts, so it comes down to choice of translation, certianly empathy is a part of true agape love.

empathy
noun em·pa·thy \ ˈem-pə-thē \
Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this
2 : the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it


Matthew 7:12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.



1 Peter 3:8 Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.


John 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.



Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.


Psalm 56:8 You have kept count of my tossing; put my tears in your bottle. Are they not in your book?
 
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I agree with you about the things that take our freedoms under the guise of "utopia"

but all these words you mention are engliosh words, none of these words are in the Hebrew or Greek texts, so it comes down to choice of translation, certianly empathy is a part of true agape love.

empathy
noun em·pa·thy \ ˈem-pə-thē \
Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this
2 : the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it


Matthew 7:12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.



1 Peter 3:8 Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.


John 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.



Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.


Psalm 56:8 You have kept count of my tossing; put my tears in your bottle. Are they not in your book?
You can't experience what another person is feeling without objective data. That is claiming to be able to do mind reading.
 

Shamah

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You can't experience what another person is feeling without objective data. That is claiming to be able to do mind reading.
but that is not the definition of empathy, actually it is th oppisite of having the same feelings and being able to understand, it is someone who is going through a different hardship and being understanding and loving towards them. Also this is not snowflake action, those people are mentally ill. This is caring for others who have problems different than ours and knowing it hurts in the same way the problems we do have hurt us.

Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this

tHIS IS NOT ON THE TOPIC HERE BUT i WANT TO ADD:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 17:3-4, “So be on your guard! If your brother trespasses against you, rebuke him! But if he repents, forgive him! And if he trespasses against you seven times in one day, and seven times in that day turns to you, and says; I repent; then you must forgive him.”[/FONT]
 
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but that is not the definition of empathy, actually it is th oppisite of having the same feelings and being able to understand, it is someone who is going through a different hardship and being understanding and loving towards them. Also this is not snowflake action, those people are mentally ill. This is caring for others who have problems different than ours and knowing it hurts in the same way the problems we do have hurt us.

Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this

tHIS IS NOT ON THE TOPIC HERE BUT i WANT TO ADD:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 17:3-4, “So be on your guard! If your brother trespasses against you, rebuke him! But if he repents, forgive him! And if he trespasses against you seven times in one day, and seven times in that day turns to you, and says; I repent; then you must forgive him.”[/FONT]
It says you should experience my thoughts without any objective cues if you have empathy. So tell me what number am I thinking of?
 

Shamah

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It says you should experience my thoughts without any objective cues if you have empathy. So tell me what number am I thinking of?
LOL. Have a nice day.

Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd

.4697. splagchnizomai ►
Strong's Concordance
splagchnizomai: to be moved in the inward parts, i.e. to feel compassion
Original Word: σπλαγχνίζομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: splagchnizomai
Phonetic Spelling: (splangkh-nid'-zom-ahee)
Short Definition: I have pity on
Definition: I feel compassion, have pity on, am moved.

compassion
noun com·pas·sion \ kəm-ˈpa-shən \
Definition of compassion
: sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it
 
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Shamah

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Then you don't have the capacity for empathy since you can't know my thoughts. BTW, I was thinking of the number 1,006.
Is compassion an acceptable english word?

also you are not accepting what empathy really is

Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this

it is caring for one without them telling you every detial hence the word "explicitly" It is not mind reading an exact thought.
 

Shamah

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Compassion is having feelings FOR someone else and doing something to help them. That is possible and that is Biblical. Empathy is not.
again neither are in the Hebrew or greek they are english words...
 

Shamah

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John 11:33, "יהושע, therefore, when He saw her weeping, and the Yehuḏim who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled,"
 
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Is compassion an acceptable english word?

also you are not accepting what empathy really is

Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this

it is caring FORone without them telling you every detial hence the word "explicitly" It is not mind reading an exact thought.
You are confused. The definition of empathy doesn't say "FOR". You are defining sympathy.
 

Shamah

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Hebrews 13:3, "Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. "
 

Shamah

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Mark 12:31, "The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”