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[7seasrekeyed]

You continue to protest......yet you, and others here continue to do what you accuse me of. Sad, truly sad.....but, shoot, your history has been one of attack, assault, belittle, berate and mock, so why should anyone expect any less?

All you expose is your own lack of understanding of Scripture, and your own denominational blindness.

right

I put him back on ignore so he can bellow into the wind all he wants

the tactics used are intimidation, bullying, absolute attacks and constant badgering if he is not responded to

I hope he does not jab himself with that two edged sword he thinks he is pointing at everyone else

I have noticed throughout the forums that when someone refers to themselves as taught by themselves, they are basically unteachable and they will literally harass anyone who has a different...and actually often scriptural understanding...of a text

in this case, you have hit hard square on...the OSAS 3000 ...I think I will just refer to it as the OSAS 3000...like a vacuum or something

so intolerant, that some folks cannot bare to hear anything that questions what they believe

there are constant differences of belief or opinion in these forums, yet few reach the level of outrage displayed by mr grateful

I gave him a 2nd chance by taking him off ignore because he liked a few of my posts and commented...but you see, the minute I dare to go outside his personal grazing zone...I am attacked and told I cannot answer his belligerent and childish jabs...consisting of questions that are totally off topic due to his misapprehension of the op...he attacks the person ...in fact it is his default action ...I have simply read other threads...not participated in them...where he repeatedly goes after someone and then denies that he does so

so I think it best he fumes all by himself, or rests on what he imagines are his laurels...I don't care either way...but I don't need or want that much angst and anger coming from an insecure person...because insecurity is what causes this kind of attack



and still NO ONE has addressed the scriptures you posted concerning what Jesus said/taught...I am in agreement with Jesus

if someone has a problem with that, it is their problem and they need to deal with it

maybe someone can tell us what is so objectionable about what our Savior said?

 

[blue_ladybug]

We are secure in our salvation, at the very moment we believe and accept Jesus as our Savior. Works do NOTHING to secure our salvation, or to make us FEEL secure in our salvation. We can do all the works we want, but it won't get us into heaven..

I agree with every word of that!

Neither I, nor others who understand what I have said about obedience have ever proposed that works lead to salvation. Try reading Matthew, Chapter 7, and understand Jesus teaching about obedience, and how our being obedient to Him gives us security in our salvation.

 

[p_rehbein]

right

I put him back on ignore so he can bellow into the wind all he wants

the tactics used are intimidation, bullying, absolute attacks and constant badgering if he is not responded to

I hope he does not jab himself with that two edged sword he thinks he is pointing at everyone else

I have noticed throughout the forums that when someone refers to themselves as taught by themselves, they are basically unteachable and they will literally harass anyone who has a different...and actually often scriptural understanding...of a text

in this case, you have hit hard square on...the OSAS 3000 ...I think I will just refer to it as the OSAS 3000...like a vacuum or something

so intolerant, that some folks cannot bare to hear anything that questions what they believe

there are constant differences of belief or opinion in these forums, yet few reach the level of outrage displayed by mr grateful

I gave him a 2nd chance by taking him off ignore because he liked a few of my posts and commented...but you see, the minute I dare to go outside his personal grazing zone...I am attacked and told I cannot answer his belligerent and childish jabs...consisting of questions that are totally off topic due to his misapprehension of the op

and still NO ONE has addressed the scriptures you posted concerning what Jesus said/taught...I am in agreement with Jesus

if someone has a problem with that, it is their problem and they need to deal with it

maybe someone can tell us what is so objectionable about what our Savior said?

For the last 5 years, he has been on and off Ignore so many times on my list....I just got tired of it.......and now I simply ignore him. This Thread if the first time I have responded to his comments in a very long time.......and, despite his denials, his ideology is directly linked to denominational teachings....he just wants to hide behind the smoke screen he emits.

His history is carved in stone here on CC for all to read. Take a bunch of searching, but it is there.

 

[p_rehbein]

We are secure in our salvation, at the very moment we believe and accept Jesus as our Savior. Works do NOTHING to secure our salvation, or to make us FEEL secure in our salvation. We can do all the works we want, but it won't get us into heaven..

Please tell me why Jesus would teach the Parable in Matthew, Chapter 7 about the wise man who built his house on the ROCK?

Your argument is with Christ, not me..........

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Get this through yo heads.. Works DO NOT save us. Works DO NOT secure or guarantee our salvation.. Works ARE NOT a requirement for being saved. Works ARE NOT to be done for the purpose of keeping or maintaining salvation..

If I didn't know better I'd say this was the Not By Works thread.. lol View attachment 179727

huh ...what I have said a few times now ^^^^^^

but you see, the op was NOT about works to begin with

mr grateful has done a good job of trying to make it seem so and he was not alone

the op was about OBEDIENCE to what Christ taught

simple...but has become just like the OSAS 3000

 

[p_rehbein]

huh ...what I have said a few times now ^^^^^^

People simply do not hear what is being said.....rather read what is being posted.....or, they do not want to.....dunno



However, something very important has come up........ I AM OUT OF COMFORT FOOD!

Gonna run to Dollar General and restock............

God bless

 

[7seasrekeyed]

For the last 5 years, he has been on and off Ignore so many times on my list....I just got tired of it.......and now I simply ignore him. This Thread if the first time I have responded to his comments in a very long time.......and, despite his denials, his ideology is directly linked to denominational teachings....he just wants to hide behind the smoke screen he emits.

His history is carved in stone here on CC for all to read. Take a bunch of searching, but it is there.

mheh

he has something to deal with that he is not dealing with and takes it out on anyone who touches his OSAS 3000

no one said anything about works...yet he goes there anyway...so, it truly is HIS problem...

there are people here who believe we have to keep the OT commandments but they don't seem to bother the OSAS crowd as much as trying to discuss about obedience and Christian responsibilities

anyway...enough about him...

 

[Chester]

I don't understand why people put others on ignore. I do have a few people on ignore - but only some who sent me suggestive personal messages, etc. - of course, I reported those as well.

I see the "ignore" thing being used to intimidate and threaten others . . . just saying . . .

If you need to put someone on ignore just do it, but don't brag about it!

 

[7seasrekeyed]

People simply do not hear what is being said.....rather read what is being posted.....or, they do not want to.....dunno



However, something very important has come up........ I AM OUT OF COMFORT FOOD!

Gonna run to Dollar General and restock............

God bless

what? spaghetti? LOL!

 

[notuptome]

I agree with every word of that!

Neither I, nor others who understand what I have said about obedience have ever proposed that works lead to salvation. Try reading Matthew, Chapter 7, and understand Jesus teaching about obedience, and how our being obedient to Him gives us security in our salvation.

You do not understand what you are saying. Works don't save and works don't keep you saved yet obedience give us security in our salvation?

Mat 7:21 Not everyone that saith to Me Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of My Father Who is in heaven.

Some here are professing allegiance to Christ yet they have not done the will of the Father. So what is the will of the Father?

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

These are commanded to depart because they never were known by Christ. They were never saved even though they claimed to cast out demons and many wonderful works. They claimed to be obedient but were workers of iniquity because they denied Christ.

Jesus earlier in the chapter drew a distinction between false teachers and true teachers.

Nothing to do with what you are implying from the passage.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I don't understand why people put others on ignore. I do have a few people on ignore - but only some who sent me suggestive personal messages, etc. - of course, I reported those as well.

I see the "ignore" thing being used to intimidate and threaten others . . . just saying . . .

If you need to put someone on ignore just do it, but don't brag about it!

no one is bragging Chester

no one

I usually just put an individual on ignore when I think it better

but in the case of mr grateful...he was my buddy just a few days ago and I took him off...

so I want to make sure he understands he is not going to get my attention anymore

it's not a happy thing...just better for my peace here

thanks

btw? mr grateful often says he is putting someone on ignore or back on ignore

I don't use pm at all, so I want to make sure he knows why I will not respond

I will also report abusive posts...containing name calling or suggesting someone is a liar...as he did to me some posts back

he is in his own category...I can think of only one other person here that is still here, but very abusive to others in their posts

he is on ignore also but I won't name him

 

[blue_ladybug]

Building a house on a rock is not always wise.. Trust me, I know, because the rock foundation of my building is LITERALLY built INTO the river and every time this river floods, guess what? We all get evacuated.. Oh and the rock ledge across the road has come down at least 3 times in the last 20 years. With houses built onto it, I might add.

Please tell me why Jesus would teach the Parable in Matthew, Chapter 7 about the wise man who built his house on the ROCK?

Your argument is with Christ, not me..........

 

[Magenta]

I don't understand why people put others on ignore. I do have a few people on ignore - but only some who sent me suggestive personal messages, etc. - of course, I reported those as well.

I see the "ignore" thing being used to intimidate and threaten others . . . just saying . . .

If you need to put someone on ignore just do it, but don't brag about it!

I don't think that informing the board, or letting some know by public announcement, that you are putting someone on ignore is done to intimidate or threaten anyone. I find the idea preposterous, actually I see it as a courtesy to let those you will no longer respond to, that you will no longer be responding to them. Is it rude to ignore those you find overly aggressive, hypocritical, and bearing false witness on a regular basis? I don't think so. I am reminded of the "poem" Desiderata, where it says to avoid those who are vexations to your spirit. Who needs the aggravation?

• Desiderata
  
  Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
  and remember what peace there may be in silence.
  As far as possible without surrender
  be on good terms with all persons.
  Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
  and listen to others,
  even the dull and the ignorant;
  they too have their story.
  Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
  they are vexations to the spirit.
  If you compare yourself with others,
  you may become vain and bitter;
  for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
  Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
  
  Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
  it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
  Exercise caution in your business affairs;
  for the world is full of trickery.
  But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
  many persons strive for high ideals;
  and everywhere life is full of heroism.
  
  Be yourself.
  Especially, do not feign affection.
  Neither be cynical about love;
  for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
  it is as perennial as the grass.
  
  Take kindly the counsel of the years,
  gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
  Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
  But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
  Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
  Beyond a wholesome discipline,
  be gentle with yourself.
  
  You are a child of the universe,
  no less than the trees and the stars;
  you have a right to be here.
  And whether or not it is clear to you,
  no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
  
  Therefore be at peace with God,
  whatever you conceive Him to be,
  and whatever your labors and aspirations,
  in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
  
  With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
  it is still a beautiful world.
  Be cheerful.
  Strive to be happy.
  
  Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Dude.......go back in the Thread.......because you surely did not have a problem belittling and berating me quite often. Now you want to back off? It is your history that when folks give back what you give out, you whine and cry about being attacked. You honestly think I am not aware of your 5 year history here?

I did not belittle you or anything, I posted how I disagreed with you, Yet you never responded to anything I said, Your first response was to tell me and everyone you were not my friend.

Yet you want to scream at me. Get over yourself dude, You have done nothing but belittle and attack everyone who has come in here and disagree with you.

You do not want to discuss anything. If you did, you would see that some of us have been discussing it all along, and having to do so while putting up with your nonsense.

I have been discussing it, And also watching you attack everyone who disagree with you. I tried to discuss it earlier in the thread. You cam at me, saying I attacked you.

Blah Blah,

I expect you are ready to stop with the name calling, it would be wise, but, if you begin to lose the argument, you will revert right back to your normal MO. So, what is the use?

Your the one calling people names, Not me, unless you are offended with me calling you elephant (thats what I remember you buy because of all the pictures you post. if you are offended by that, forgive me, I get you and another person in here like you mixed up and I can not always remember your name)

You want to stop, yet you continue, even in this post? Too, too funny.......

.

Yeah, yeah, Blame shift, You are just like your brothers. Never willing to accept responsibility for your own actions.

HeRoseFromTheDead posted a comment that blew all of your arguments out of the water.

I have had that dude on ignore because of the war him and his buddies went on before he disappeared. So I can not see his nonsense, Please share, ( I will glad respond to it, unlike you I do not just attack people without responding to what they said especially when it comes to scripture)

so again, what post did he do that blew me out. was it like yours I already refuted yours twice. Yet you have not (or can not?) said a word about what I said concerning that passage (because you have no desire to discuss. you never do. yet blame me never wanting to discuss, i tried, You refused, end of story)

I did the same by posting the Scriptures of Christ in His own Words. Especially those from the 7th Chapter of Matthew, which you have little or no understanding of. The Word is Truth! If you have a problem with the use of the word "secures," that is your problem because of your lack of understanding.

yep. and I have posted at least twice how I disagree with your interpretation of that passage, Yet you never responded to either one, I tried to discuss, You attacked.

its on you my friend.

You want to discuss, Go back and see what I said about that passage and show me where I got it wrong.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree with every word of that!

Neither I, nor others who understand what I have said about obedience have ever proposed that works lead to salvation. Try reading Matthew, Chapter 7, and understand Jesus teaching about obedience, and how our being obedient to Him gives us security in our salvation.

Again, Have you changed, Do you now believe works are not required to maintain salvation? do you now believe that we can not lose salvation because we have fallen in disobedience?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

right

I put him back on ignore so he can bellow into the wind all he want

THANK YOU, there is a God!!

And please note for everyone else in the thread, She could not answer my question,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We are secure in our salvation, at the very moment we believe and accept Jesus as our Savior. Works do NOTHING to secure our salvation, or to make us FEEL secure in our salvation. We can do all the works we want, but it won't get us into heaven..

I tried to show him, this, I even posted ALOT of scripture which backed this up.

As you can see, He yells at me saying I never want to discuss, But he never responded to ANY of those scriptures

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please tell me why Jesus would teach the Parable in Matthew, Chapter 7 about the wise man who built his house on the ROCK?

Your argument is with Christ, not me..........

Jesus is the rock, Not our works,

The people who build their house based on works, build there house on the sand, (which what I see you trying to enforce, you could show otherwise and we can discuss it but you will not) Because our works are insufficient.

Oh forgive me, I gave a different view of the interpetation of that verse, which means I attacked the elephant

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't understand why people put others on ignore. I do have a few people on ignore - but only some who sent me suggestive personal messages, etc. - of course, I reported those as well.

I see the "ignore" thing being used to intimidate and threaten others . . . just saying . . .

If you need to put someone on ignore just do it, but don't brag about it!

I ignore poeple who continue to slander others, and continue to lie about what others believe, after numerous people have tried to show them how they are in error about what the other is saying.

After a year of nonsense with peter jens and those who attacked grace, and making a bunch of people mad, I had no choice.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

People simply do not hear what is being said.....rather read what is being posted.....or, they do not want to.....dunno



However, something very important has come up........ I AM OUT OF COMFORT FOOD!

Gonna run to Dollar General and restock............

God bless

I heard what was said, I gave a different view, (and you have yet to prove how I have misinterpreted you) You have yet to refute my view..