Do we decide to be saved?
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[FONT="]and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.[John 5:40]
Jesus tells those self-righteous Jews they will not come to Him, not they can not. They would not come to Him because they hated Him with their hearts.
Unless God first changes the heart, no one will come to Him.[/FONT]
Jesus tells those self-righteous Jews they will not come to Him, not they can not. They would not come to Him because they hated Him with their hearts.
Unless God first changes the heart, no one will come to Him.[/FONT]
When I was a child, I had a waking vision on my bed. I will not claim it to
be anything more than the vision of a six-year-old.
I saw darkness then I saw a cliff with all that souls that ever were are and ever will be. I was there too. The cliff gave to a bottomless ravine or canyon, and across the expanse was land and a wee small light.
The souls were all billowing and kind of trying to push their way over but feared the chasm, all kind of looking at each other in wonder as to what way they could get to the other side.
The wee small light beckoned to all with the message unspoken yet understood that any who believe the light would be able to cross that chasm without fear. I believed and believe that, and I believe the vision, though I do not expect others to.
Also what came with this allegorical vision was the understanding that all the above occurred before the earth was created....
I hope this does not disturb anyone, but since having this vision I have come to also understand the Wee Small Light to be our Savior, Jesus Christ, Yeshua.
be anything more than the vision of a six-year-old.
I saw darkness then I saw a cliff with all that souls that ever were are and ever will be. I was there too. The cliff gave to a bottomless ravine or canyon, and across the expanse was land and a wee small light.
The souls were all billowing and kind of trying to push their way over but feared the chasm, all kind of looking at each other in wonder as to what way they could get to the other side.
The wee small light beckoned to all with the message unspoken yet understood that any who believe the light would be able to cross that chasm without fear. I believed and believe that, and I believe the vision, though I do not expect others to.
Also what came with this allegorical vision was the understanding that all the above occurred before the earth was created....
I hope this does not disturb anyone, but since having this vision I have come to also understand the Wee Small Light to be our Savior, Jesus Christ, Yeshua.
Yes you can decide to be saved. How?
Matthew 24:13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.
Godly life is a persevering life. you are really fighting the desires of the flesh. this is the reason why Apostle Paul wanted Christian not to live in the flesh.
What are the works of the flesh? just read Galatians 5:19-21.
If you died doing the works of the flesh, expect eternal damnation as mentioned in Galatians Chapter 5 I posted.
But in the end, it is YOU will choose whether you will choose GOOD or EVIL as mentioned in Deuteronomy 30:19.
Matthew 24:13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.
Godly life is a persevering life. you are really fighting the desires of the flesh. this is the reason why Apostle Paul wanted Christian not to live in the flesh.
What are the works of the flesh? just read Galatians 5:19-21.
If you died doing the works of the flesh, expect eternal damnation as mentioned in Galatians Chapter 5 I posted.
But in the end, it is YOU will choose whether you will choose GOOD or EVIL as mentioned in Deuteronomy 30:19.
Thanks for bringing this up. I explained what I think of this post poorly, you said it better. God giving His salvation is ddone when God tells any one of us we may live with Him forever, we are saed from death to live for Him. NOW we are to grow in grace.
The question for us now is not "Are you saved". The question for us is "Are you living for the Lord". Accepting us for salvation is something the Lord does, our decision minute by minute ab9ut h9w we choose to think, live, act and be is something we do.
The question for us now is not "Are you saved". The question for us is "Are you living for the Lord". Accepting us for salvation is something the Lord does, our decision minute by minute ab9ut h9w we choose to think, live, act and be is something we do.
God sees the end from the beginning. So Esau does equal Edom and Jacob does equal the nation of Israel, at the same time as those individuals. In fact Jacob is a designation for the nation of Israel quite frequently.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Rom 11:26)
Edom made itself hateful to God by their attitude to Israel.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Rom 11:26)
Edom made itself hateful to God by their attitude to Israel.
And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
The two nations are Esau and Jacob, or Edom and Israel. Besides, when the Lord stated that He loved Jacob and hated Esau, this is well beyond the two boys' physical lives on earth(Malachi).
The two nations are Esau and Jacob, or Edom and Israel. Besides, when the Lord stated that He loved Jacob and hated Esau, this is well beyond the two boys' physical lives on earth(Malachi).
EarnestQ
1 Peter 1: 1, 2 states "who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father"
I would be interested to hear any thoughts about that phrase.
Is there some some quality of which God is cognizant that enters into the election?
If so, any ideas as to identity?
Is there a difference between election and predestination?
God bless
1 Peter 1: 1, 2 states "who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father"
I would be interested to hear any thoughts about that phrase.
Is there some some quality of which God is cognizant that enters into the election?
If so, any ideas as to identity?
Is there a difference between election and predestination?
God bless
From what I have read in the Bible so far, I am currently inclined toward election but it also "seems to me" that we make a decision to be saved. I can't reconcile these two positions, other than to suggest that PERHAPS God elects us to salvation but we decide when to take Him up on it.
I am not aware of any significant distinction between election and predestination.
I am not aware of any significant distinction between election and predestination.
I've been reading some of the posts here and they bring up so many good points and verses. I was thinking about how people are "blinded" How satan has blinded the minds of those who believe not so that the light of the glorious gospel should shine unto them....... There is so much to this yet when it all is said and done., we can totally count on the love and grace of God in Jesus to accomplish what He starts doing.
Understanding the whole counsel of God is not for us to do... but understanding that He so loved the world and us individually., He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life...
We can be confident in that Love and grace and lean on it hard.
Understanding the whole counsel of God is not for us to do... but understanding that He so loved the world and us individually., He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life...
We can be confident in that Love and grace and lean on it hard.
That is NOT what Scripture tells us:
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (1 Tim 2:3,4)
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things... But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. (1 Jn 2:20, 27)
When people follow the teachings of false teachers, then they cannot see the whole counsel of God.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (1 Tim 2:3,4)
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things... But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. (1 Jn 2:20, 27)
When people follow the teachings of false teachers, then they cannot see the whole counsel of God.
I've been reading some of the posts here and they bring up so many good points and verses. I was thinking about how people are "blinded" How satan has blinded the minds of those who believe not so that the light of the glorious gospel should shine unto them....... There is so much to this yet when it all is said and done., we can totally count on the love and grace of God in Jesus to accomplish what He starts doing.
Understanding the whole counsel of God is not for us to do... but understanding that He so loved the world and us individually., He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life...
We can be confident in that Love and grace and lean on it hard.
Understanding the whole counsel of God is not for us to do... but understanding that He so loved the world and us individually., He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life...
We can be confident in that Love and grace and lean on it hard.
I often said I would pray with anyone about healing. Perhaps I should pray less and believe more. At least believe what the Holy Spirit gave me all those years ago. I am sorry I spoke ill of you admonishes, and I thank you for waking my spirit back up.
yes you Have reconciled it correctly...consider this parable, from Jesus
And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
16Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: 17And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. 18And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. 19And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. 20And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
21So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. 22And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. 23And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper."
God has offered Mankind Life at His side from the beginning in fact Man was Made to have dominion over and rule over the earth, God mad Man in His image, and Gave man rule over His creation. from the beginning. yet Man has consistantly declined His invitation . as those in the parable we Have other More pressing things than to seek the word, we Have other More pressing or exciting or fun things to do when We Hear the message of the Kingdom of God.
it really is quite stunning when you really perceive that from Creation, God has willed that Man walk in righteousness and rule as a steward over Gods creation, rule in His perfect and right and good will. He has from the start when He put adam in the Garden paradise, He has shown His will to be near and with us, to Know and fellowship with us, to bless us and protect us By warning us in the truth " the fruit is poison whatever you do dont eat it, you will for sure die".....
He has always placed Before Mankind Life, or death and said you are free to choose Life, if you choose death you will die..therefore choose Life.