Do We Have To Keep The Law?
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Really? Okay then - are you claiming you don't break the Law? Because I'm not going to let you have it both ways.
Do you know why we don't get past it? Because that's where it ends!
Jesus did all that was required to not only justify us, but to sanctify us, to keep us saved, and to one day present us faultless before the Father.
You hate the fact that salvation is a gift from beginning to end, don't you? Your pride will not allow you to simply accept what God offers freely - you have to do SOMETHING to earn it, to help God out, to PROVE you deserve salvation, to prove you possess salvation, to keep your salvation.
You take it to a whole other level, Ralph. You are the Grand Inquisitor who judges the fruit of others and pronounces one saved or damned. You are splitting at the seems with self-righteousness, and it's sickening to behold.
Mmm-kay.
"What are the works that God requires?" And Jesus answered them, "The work of God is this, to believe in the One He has sent." (John 6:28-29)
Done and done.
And prove ourselves to God? Or to you?
If you add a single requirement to the gospel of salvation, you negate it as gift, and place yourself under a curse for adding to the word of God. You are a Neo-Judaizer, Ralph. Saying we're saved by grace alone without works, and then trying to drag people back under the Law.
"However, to the one who does not work, but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness." (Romans 4:5)
"If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved." (1 Corinthians 3:14-15)
Try again, Lawyer.
Do you know why we don't get past it? Because that's where it ends!
Jesus did all that was required to not only justify us, but to sanctify us, to keep us saved, and to one day present us faultless before the Father.
You hate the fact that salvation is a gift from beginning to end, don't you? Your pride will not allow you to simply accept what God offers freely - you have to do SOMETHING to earn it, to help God out, to PROVE you deserve salvation, to prove you possess salvation, to keep your salvation.
You take it to a whole other level, Ralph. You are the Grand Inquisitor who judges the fruit of others and pronounces one saved or damned. You are splitting at the seems with self-righteousness, and it's sickening to behold.
Mmm-kay.
"What are the works that God requires?" And Jesus answered them, "The work of God is this, to believe in the One He has sent." (John 6:28-29)
Done and done.
And prove ourselves to God? Or to you?
If you add a single requirement to the gospel of salvation, you negate it as gift, and place yourself under a curse for adding to the word of God. You are a Neo-Judaizer, Ralph. Saying we're saved by grace alone without works, and then trying to drag people back under the Law.
"However, to the one who does not work, but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness." (Romans 4:5)
"If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved." (1 Corinthians 3:14-15)
Try again, Lawyer.
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I knew sooner or later you would be telling me I need help did I say anything about you needing help, I just merely said I can't do anything for you anymore. Law of love you show me what you think of it. Forgiveness to the people from God was forfilled.
this time around its all red eyes and revenge, justice will be served.
this time around its all red eyes and revenge, justice will be served.
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lol. Whatever man,
Can you answer what else Jesus needed to do to fulfill the law? Since you keep demanding he has not done so yet
or are you going to sit their and continue to say you did no wrong by saying you can not help me anymore (an arrogant remark I must add) in which I gave it right back to you?
"The Law" in those verses means God's Law under the authority of Moses- which was done physically- which we are no longer under. Now, under Christ's authority we obey those same laws (such as do not murder) but we do so spiritually. Christ says if you hate your brother you are already guilty of murder (spiritally). So it sounds weird to say we are no longer under the law, but we still must obey God's law.
R
It is these very kinds of posts that show you are still an immature infant in Christ.
"I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You are still worldly."-1 Corinthians 3:1-3
You're not strong enough to let it go. Insults and attacks will follow. You're still worldly. You do not live by the Spirit. You show that in your posts.
"I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You are still worldly."-1 Corinthians 3:1-3
You're not strong enough to let it go. Insults and attacks will follow. You're still worldly. You do not live by the Spirit. You show that in your posts.
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