10 Reasons Sin Confession Is Questionable!!!
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Two things I learned from someone here, was don't take the bait and guard your heart.
Sound advice.
Sound advice.
I'm sorry I wrote this part. I got caught up in the moment after all the fussing over nothing.
And yes I repented for that, because of genuine regret that I said such a thing.
Boy, the BDF has a knack for changing a person.
And yes I repented for that, because of genuine regret that I said such a thing.
Boy, the BDF has a knack for changing a person.
All I am saying (and what I believe to be true) is that
God allowing something to occur – in the case of Job, God allowing satan limited access to Job
is not the same as
God telling satan to attack Job.
in my mind there is a difference in the two statements.
Here is my feeble attempt to explain the difference:
I go up to God with some cockamamie idea that it would be a good idea for me to break into a bank and steal some money.
God, of course, will remind me of Scripture – Thou shalt not steal – and that He will provide for me as He determines.
I do not listen and instead go ahead and rob the bank.
Does the fact that God allowed me to rob the bank in any way, shape or form mean that God told me to rob the bank?
Yes, in agreement about the hedge. And we see a vivid picture of this in Exodus when the children of Israel left Egypt and the Egyptians pursued after them (Exodus 14:19-20).
There are many passages in Scripture wherein God warns us that we will suffer persecution and we will face trials and tribulations. He does not hide this fact from us. And God also reminds us that He will help us in time of need. He uses the times of trial to work within each and every one of us to perfect, establish, strengthen, settle us (1 Peter 5:6-10). Never does He leave us alone to face our times of struggle without Him.
To turn a blind eye to God's warning that we will face trying times is to hide our heads in the sand and blind ourselves to the purpose we face in this life.
Our purpose is to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might; arm ourselves with the whole armor of God; stand against the wiles of the devil and withstand in the evil day, praying always with all perseverance and supplications for all saints (Eph 6:10-18).
As we do this, we will successfully thwart satan and his minions. He will come after us, but he will have to flee as we resist and draw near to God (James 4:7).
God allowing something to occur – in the case of Job, God allowing satan limited access to Job
is not the same as
God telling satan to attack Job.
in my mind there is a difference in the two statements.
Here is my feeble attempt to explain the difference:
I go up to God with some cockamamie idea that it would be a good idea for me to break into a bank and steal some money.
God, of course, will remind me of Scripture – Thou shalt not steal – and that He will provide for me as He determines.
I do not listen and instead go ahead and rob the bank.
Does the fact that God allowed me to rob the bank in any way, shape or form mean that God told me to rob the bank?
Yes, in agreement about the hedge. And we see a vivid picture of this in Exodus when the children of Israel left Egypt and the Egyptians pursued after them (Exodus 14:19-20).
There are many passages in Scripture wherein God warns us that we will suffer persecution and we will face trials and tribulations. He does not hide this fact from us. And God also reminds us that He will help us in time of need. He uses the times of trial to work within each and every one of us to perfect, establish, strengthen, settle us (1 Peter 5:6-10). Never does He leave us alone to face our times of struggle without Him.
To turn a blind eye to God's warning that we will face trying times is to hide our heads in the sand and blind ourselves to the purpose we face in this life.
Our purpose is to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might; arm ourselves with the whole armor of God; stand against the wiles of the devil and withstand in the evil day, praying always with all perseverance and supplications for all saints (Eph 6:10-18).
As we do this, we will successfully thwart satan and his minions. He will come after us, but he will have to flee as we resist and draw near to God (James 4:7).
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[TD]You are all fair, my love, and there is no spot in you.[/TD]
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THERE IS NO SPOT IN YOU[HR][/HR][/TD]
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Jesus tells us His bride, “You are all fair, My love, and there is no spot in you.” But our reply to Him tends to be, “Me? All fair and no spot? You don’t know me, Lord!”
Do you really think that God doesn’t know you?
God sees reality like no one else sees it. He sees the perfection of His Son’s finished work in your life. By one offering of Himself at the cross, Jesus has perfected you forever! (Hebrews 10:14) You have been made the righteousness of God in Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21) And you will never find any spot in this righteousness that Jesus died to give you.
So God wants you to see yourself righteous—all fair and spotless in Christ. Every day, be conscious of your righteousness in Christ. Say, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ. There is no spot in me whom He has perfected with His blood.” When you do that, you are honoring Jesus and His finished work.
If you are conscious of your sins, then you are not honoring the work of Christ. You may think that you are being humble or holy by being sin-conscious. But do you know that the Bible calls sin-consciousness an “evil conscience”?
Hebrews 10:21–22 tells us that since we have Jesus as our High Priest, “let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience”. What does the writer of Hebrews mean by “an evil conscience”? If you read the beginning of the same chapter, you will find that he is talking about a “consciousness of sins”.
(Hebrews 10:2) Paul calls it a “conscience seared with a hot iron”. (1 Timothy 4:2) The Greek word for “seared” here is kauteriazo, and it means to carry about with you a perpetual consciousness of sin.
So don’t carry with you an evil or seared conscience. Your lifetime of sins has already been punished fully in the body of Jesus at the cross. Be conscious, instead, of your perfection and righteousness in Christ. Because of what Jesus has done for you, you can boldly declare, “I am all fair. There is no spot in me!”
Destined To Reign Devotional.
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[TD]You are all fair, my love, and there is no spot in you.[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]Song Of Solomon 4:7[/TD]
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THERE IS NO SPOT IN YOU[HR][/HR][/TD]
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Jesus tells us His bride, “You are all fair, My love, and there is no spot in you.” But our reply to Him tends to be, “Me? All fair and no spot? You don’t know me, Lord!”
Do you really think that God doesn’t know you?
God sees reality like no one else sees it. He sees the perfection of His Son’s finished work in your life. By one offering of Himself at the cross, Jesus has perfected you forever! (Hebrews 10:14) You have been made the righteousness of God in Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21) And you will never find any spot in this righteousness that Jesus died to give you.
So God wants you to see yourself righteous—all fair and spotless in Christ. Every day, be conscious of your righteousness in Christ. Say, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ. There is no spot in me whom He has perfected with His blood.” When you do that, you are honoring Jesus and His finished work.
If you are conscious of your sins, then you are not honoring the work of Christ. You may think that you are being humble or holy by being sin-conscious. But do you know that the Bible calls sin-consciousness an “evil conscience”?
Hebrews 10:21–22 tells us that since we have Jesus as our High Priest, “let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience”. What does the writer of Hebrews mean by “an evil conscience”? If you read the beginning of the same chapter, you will find that he is talking about a “consciousness of sins”.
(Hebrews 10:2) Paul calls it a “conscience seared with a hot iron”. (1 Timothy 4:2) The Greek word for “seared” here is kauteriazo, and it means to carry about with you a perpetual consciousness of sin.
So don’t carry with you an evil or seared conscience. Your lifetime of sins has already been punished fully in the body of Jesus at the cross. Be conscious, instead, of your perfection and righteousness in Christ. Because of what Jesus has done for you, you can boldly declare, “I am all fair. There is no spot in me!”
Destined To Reign Devotional.
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Tell me please if what I wrote was a sin in the eyes of God?
Do you think I offended God because I used a couple of words in a way you don't agree with?
Did I blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
If what I wrote didn't bother God, then why should you stoop to strain out a gnat only swallow a camel?
You should get hold of that hatred of yours and get rid of it, before it consumes you.
I'm sorry you don't like what I write, but this fault finding of yours to be very petty.
And until I find the right word to replace "doctrine" with, I will use it the way I choose, but until then, I'm going to continue teaching my doctrines.
And if you don't understand the way I'm using that word, then you need to go to the source, and ask me what I meant.
Do you think I offended God because I used a couple of words in a way you don't agree with?
Did I blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
If what I wrote didn't bother God, then why should you stoop to strain out a gnat only swallow a camel?
You should get hold of that hatred of yours and get rid of it, before it consumes you.
I'm sorry you don't like what I write, but this fault finding of yours to be very petty.
And until I find the right word to replace "doctrine" with, I will use it the way I choose, but until then, I'm going to continue teaching my doctrines.
And if you don't understand the way I'm using that word, then you need to go to the source, and ask me what I meant.
What do you think would happen if you were to wave a red flag before a raging bull?
What do you think would happen if you were to dangle a piece of meat before a hungry lion?
Do you think God didn't know what the devil was like and what he wanted to do?
Satan already said that he tried to attack Job and was unable to because God had placed a hedge of protection about him and all that he had.
How do you think the devil knew about the hedge?
God was just letting the devil know that the hedge of protection was down.
Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
What do you think would happen if you were to dangle a piece of meat before a hungry lion?
Do you think God didn't know what the devil was like and what he wanted to do?
Satan already said that he tried to attack Job and was unable to because God had placed a hedge of protection about him and all that he had.
How do you think the devil knew about the hedge?
God was just letting the devil know that the hedge of protection was down.
Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
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Well i guess we are under law then, if we must work to have our future sin forgiven.
read those again, Non of them say ask forgiveness, they do not say repent, they say confess
33.275 ὁμολογέωb; ἐξομολογέομαιb: to acknowledge a fact publicly, often in reference to previous bad behavior—‘to admit, to confess.’
ὁμολογέωb: ἐὰν ὁμολογῶμεν τὰς ἁμαρτίας ἡμῶν ‘if we confess our sins’ 1 Jn 1:9.
ἐξομολογέομαιb: ἐξομολογούμενοι τὰς ἁμαρτίας αὐτῶν ‘they confessed their sins’ Mt 3:6. In translating Mt 3:6 in some languages, it may be useful to restructure the expression somewhat, for example, ‘they admitted to people that they had sinned’ or ‘they admitted publicly to God …’
In Php 2:11 the statement πᾶσα γλῶσσα ἐξομολογήσηται ὅτι κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός (‘that everyone may confess that Jesus Christ is Lord’) means simply to acknowledge a fact publicly, and in this instance there is no implication of previous bad behavior.
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let me just respond the same way you responded to Nehemiah
yeah
whatever dude
I don't confess my sins to others. The Bible does not tell us we need to confess to others. Jesus said if we offended someone..if there is something between us and someone else, we need to get that straightened out
but who pays attention to that, eh? some here might and I don't know if you do, but some here teach that we no longer pay attention to what Jesus said
I hope you are not of that persuasion
yeah
whatever dude
I don't confess my sins to others. The Bible does not tell us we need to confess to others. Jesus said if we offended someone..if there is something between us and someone else, we need to get that straightened out
but who pays attention to that, eh? some here might and I don't know if you do, but some here teach that we no longer pay attention to what Jesus said
I hope you are not of that persuasion
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[/FONT][FONT="]I do not see anyone saying we do not do what jesus said, (Unless i missed something the last few days taking a break from this place) but i see alot of churched people (yes i say churched, i was part of that church that did not think we needed discipleship or pear relationships where we confess our sins to each other and have accountability partners to help us overcome power of sin, and i just wonder ho my life would have been if they did? ) saying people are saying things they are not saying.
Funny how you yell at people saying they deny god (when they are not) but you keep sticking up for the ones lbearing false witness against those others, and then preaching about how righteous we should be and repent of our sins.
The church has lost its way, and not in the way you think!
The bible does not say we should confess to each other? Better think again!
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It was so healing when i found out god did want me to come on my knees begging for forgiveness when i sinned, or being afraid to go to him, because i would struggle with a sin, or commit a prety bad sin, living in fear of mu heavenly father, to know the truth that i was not given a spirit, where i fear, but if sound mind, and i have an Abba Father where I can go and Acknowledge (confess) my sins to him, and actually have a discussion with him about that sin or those sins, that so help tear down the sins that so want to destroy us, then to also not be afraid to confess to people in church, who would tell me i cant be saved doing those things, if i was saved, i would never struggle with sin issues, and asked to leave the church (i witnessed this many times growing up)
confession to God and our peer or peers in a. Discipleship/cell group setting is freedom, n more hiding, no more fear. But grace, and healing.
confession to God and our peer or peers in a. Discipleship/cell group setting is freedom, n more hiding, no more fear. But grace, and healing.
If you want to be so technical with stuff, perhaps you ought to look up "works of the Law", & how when Paul mentions "works"in all of his teachings, this is what he is always talking about.
Every scripture you use against faithfulness speaks singularly about the works of the law.
Which means you consistently take them out of context.
I can't trust you with a record like that. Nobody should.
Every scripture you use against faithfulness speaks singularly about the works of the law.
Which means you consistently take them out of context.
I can't trust you with a record like that. Nobody should.
When 97% of a member's threads talk about freegrace/hyper-grace teachings & preachers, they are what they are.
It's time to call a spade a spade.
You do that to the so-called "works-salvationists", don't you?
Don't you?!?
Yet I know those people by their works, and they're not whay you say they are. I read the NBW's thread, & the very thing you're saying here is done by you there.
You know what that makes you, don't you?
Don't you?!?!?
We know...... but we withhold that name from you, because we know we would be reported for saying it.
It's time to call a spade a spade.
You do that to the so-called "works-salvationists", don't you?
Don't you?!?
Yet I know those people by their works, and they're not whay you say they are. I read the NBW's thread, & the very thing you're saying here is done by you there.
You know what that makes you, don't you?
Don't you?!?!?
We know...... but we withhold that name from you, because we know we would be reported for saying it.
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When a member (no matter who they are) says he believes we should confess our sins to god, but says it is not for forgiveness, and people keep saying he says we do not need to confess our sins at all, we have serious issues.
When people lie about others, it does. Ot matter if they are hypergrqce, calvanist, arminian, catholic, premil or amil etc etc. calling people out and standing up for the person being falsley accused does not mean your standing up or defending hypergrace, or calvanism or Arminianism or Catholicism, or pre mill or amill
it means your standing up and confronting those bearing false witness against Othefs
so you can conti ue to bear false witness against myself (this issue) or you can confess you have misunderstood what is being said.
Either way, your way off base. Period.
