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And yet, God is in control. You not wanting an omnipotent God is quite telling...and sad. 
Ok, I'll see your 1 John 5:19 and your 2 Corinthians 4:4, and I'll raise you with Colossians 1:16-17"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."
It's funny how instead of answering my questions:
you are answering my questions with more questions?
The whole point of Job is to show that "it rains on the just and the unjust" - how righteous you are doesn't promise you life without difficulties. Jesus is the subject of the Bible from Genesis through Revelation - the prophecies told of him would come to pass - what God has said will come to pass. Was God in control in the garden? So God planned for Satan to tempt Eve and for them to sin? I thought God wanted a family and that is the whole reason he created man to fellowship with him . . .
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Yes. God is in control. Even when a drunk gets behind the wheel, when someone is raped, murdered, molested, robbed, beaten, falsely imprisoned, &c.
Was God in control when Joseph was sold into slavery, brought up to be Potiphar’s right hand man, falsely accused and imprisoned for ~ 3 years?
Was God in control whilst Paul was imprisoned?
Was God in control whilst the Apostles were beaten and then martyred?
Was God in control when Daniel was under Nebuchadnezzar?
You don’t want the God of the Bible. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.
Was God in control when Joseph was sold into slavery, brought up to be Potiphar’s right hand man, falsely accused and imprisoned for ~ 3 years?
Was God in control whilst Paul was imprisoned?
Was God in control whilst the Apostles were beaten and then martyred?
Was God in control when Daniel was under Nebuchadnezzar?
You don’t want the God of the Bible. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.
She’s teetering upon deism.
Poor weak God! That mean serpent in the garden overpowered Him, that mean devil is too tough for Him, those mean Jews were too strong for Him to save His boy! Really? You really believe all that? Wow, why would you even believe in such a weak God? I believe in a mighty, powerful God, a God who not only created everything, but also knows all that will happen from the end to the beginning. Isaiah 46:9-10
It seems you have a different definition of love than I do. It seems you have a different definition of holy and righteous than I do. It seems you have a different understanding that there is a god of this world and that this world lies in wickedness.
God made Joseph's brothers jealous of him so they would try to get rid of him? God rendered evil so that good would come . . . .
All Christians suffer persecution in one form or another . . . . not from God.
Again - God does not render evil so that good will come - I believe God says something about that in Romans 3:8.
And sorry but I still believe that the thief comes to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
God made Joseph's brothers jealous of him so they would try to get rid of him? God rendered evil so that good would come . . . .
All Christians suffer persecution in one form or another . . . . not from God.
Again - God does not render evil so that good will come - I believe God says something about that in Romans 3:8.
And sorry but I still believe that the thief comes to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
Nope, I serve a mighty God, the Almighty, who is also a loving Father. If you need some type of humor to disparage me - go ahead. I believe what I believe - you believe what you believe . . . it's that way with everyone on one subject or another.
Yes, all prophecy that has ever been foretold will be fulfilled.
The devil is not too tough for Almighty God - mankind put the devil in the position he is now in - just as foretold in Gen. 3 - the devil has struck Jesus' heel but the day is coming when Christ will crush his head -
Yes, all prophecy that has ever been foretold will be fulfilled.
The devil is not too tough for Almighty God - mankind put the devil in the position he is now in - just as foretold in Gen. 3 - the devil has struck Jesus' heel but the day is coming when Christ will crush his head -
Dear Peaceful, you are right. The thief comes for those three reasons: But Jesus came, that we might have life, and have it more abundantly. Just because God allows evil, doesn't mean He's not in control. Jesus is the proof that God is very much in control. If the devil were outside of God's control, then that would make him more powerful than God, and he could bind God and throw him in the pit. But the Bible makes it clear who is Creator, and who is creature.
But what you say is completely true for the lost. The devil can steal, kill, and destroy them-if God allows it. We can see this in Luke 22:31-32. Here, Jesus tell Simon Peter that the devil desired to have him, but even then, God was in control. For didn't Peter go on to write two letters? And the devil may kill-if God allows, but even then, God can raise the dead. So please, don't give that loser more power than God has allowed him to have. For the creature is subject to the Creator. Hath not the Potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
But what you say is completely true for the lost. The devil can steal, kill, and destroy them-if God allows it. We can see this in Luke 22:31-32. Here, Jesus tell Simon Peter that the devil desired to have him, but even then, God was in control. For didn't Peter go on to write two letters? And the devil may kill-if God allows, but even then, God can raise the dead. So please, don't give that loser more power than God has allowed him to have. For the creature is subject to the Creator. Hath not the Potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Of course God is in control,and things go the way He wants,but He gave us a choice so wickedness will happen as a result of people making wrong choices.
But it will not go that far for while we have a choice God only allows our choices to go so far,and only allows the devil to influence so much.
If nations and kingdoms get too out of hand with being physically cruel,and going against the truth of God spreading it too far in territory God will allow other nations,and kingdoms,to put them down for His ways and truth must endure on earth,which mostly happened in the Old Testament,but in the New with the Roman Empire what saved them from being put down is because they acknowledged the Bible,and Jesus,even if they were false on many things,and cruel.
But one day God is going to allow the devil to have his way in the world for 7 years like he has not been able to do in the past because God is going to allow the world to have their way for a certain amount of time to cause all people that do not love Him to follow a kingdom that acknowledges no personal God.
The reason for this is so God can end this sin business on earth,which God is love and will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,so He will allow the wicked to rebel against Him so He can end this sin business on earth.
God is always in control but He has given us a choice somewhat,and that somewhat is people have a choice to do wicked but it can only go so far,but when the 7 years period happens the devil will be able to influence like he has not been able to do in the past with the first three and one half years working in the world as a man trying to promote peace,and the last three and one half years as the New Age Christ,man of sin,and the devils will be cast to earth and deceive all people that do not love God to follow the beast kingdom which is the strong delusion God will send all people that do not love Him.
I kind of do not understand when people say God is in control,or He is not in control however far they say that,but God gave us a choice so people will make wrong choices,but it can only go so far as of now,but the restraint will be off in the future and it will be people can be as wicked as they want and as deceptive as much as they want for it is time for God to end this sin business on earth.
I think people want to say God is in control because they want to believe that God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice in the matter,so they can never lose salvation.
But the Bible says many are called but few are chosen,and God wants all people to repent,and come to the knowledge of the truth,and be saved,and Jesus lights every person that is born in this world,and the Spirit and bride say Come,and anybody that wants that salvation can have it.
I do not understand people and their ignoring,misinterpreting,bias opinion,fleshy,got to hear it the way I want to hear it,ways about them.
The Bible plainly states things and they say not so.
And they claim to be a Christian and do that,so if God is in control then why can there be so many misinterpretations of His word concerning the different denominations,and serious errors,even to the point of the occult interpreting it that way through the new age movement that will pave the way to the beast kingdom.
But of course God is in control even if there are false interpretations of His word.
God gave us a choice so some people will be wicked,but He still has a plan going on throughout history that cannot be thwarted no matter how wicked they become.
But He gave us a choice whether to choose salvation or not for His kingdom is true love,not robotic love.
For if He chooses who will be saved without their choice then their faith is not real,their love is not real,their belief in God is not real,their confession of Jesus is not real,their repentance of sins is not real,their hope is not real,for it did not come from them but God,and they have no choice but to comply like a programmed robot seeing no other alternative.
Now how does that make logical,reality based,sense,especially when God is the greatest love,and will people have greater love between them than God and His people,seeing people would have the choice to love each other,but God's people do not have the choice to love God but have to comply seeing no other alternative.
If they say God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice,then they are saying that God's kingdom is not true love,and He is evil for condemning people that did nothing wrong for He chose them to be not saved without their choice,and you do not want to be saying that about God for that is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,which I know they do not intend to do that.
These people that want to believe that God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice trip me out with how they ignore scriptures,and do not harmonize scriptures,and do not understand scriptures.
And why do they do that,because they are fleshy,and they can get on your nerves with their worldliness going as far as saying they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,and they do not have to obey Christ for salvation,and do not have to love for salvation,because nothing can hinder them from salvation.
Which they say those things because they know the hypocrisy,and worldliness,and fleshiness,about them,so they have to justify it by saying it does not affect their relationship with God,and they want to enjoy some things of the flesh is why they believe what they believe.
God is in control and has a plan going on throughout history that cannot be thwarted,but he has given us a choice so some people will be wicked,but that does not hinder God's plan He has going on,and the wicked,and the devil can only go so far,but one day the wicked can be as wicked as they want,and and the devil can influence them to be as wicked as they can be,but God is still in control and has a plan that cannot be thwarted and will put down the wicked after they follow the beast kingdom that acknowledges no personal God.
For the beast kingdom took away the hope of the world,which it will devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces,and the beast has power over all nations,kindreds,and tongues,so all Gentile nations governments are involved with the belief that there is no personal God.
As long as one nation acknowledges a higher power,a personal God,there is hope for the world,for people might turn to God,and Jesus as Lord and Savior,but the beast kingdom took that hope away,so it is over for mankind's ruling on earth by their governments.
If they do not acknowledge a personal God then they will not come to the God of Israel,and will not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior,for they would not come to that belief.
But it will not go that far for while we have a choice God only allows our choices to go so far,and only allows the devil to influence so much.
If nations and kingdoms get too out of hand with being physically cruel,and going against the truth of God spreading it too far in territory God will allow other nations,and kingdoms,to put them down for His ways and truth must endure on earth,which mostly happened in the Old Testament,but in the New with the Roman Empire what saved them from being put down is because they acknowledged the Bible,and Jesus,even if they were false on many things,and cruel.
But one day God is going to allow the devil to have his way in the world for 7 years like he has not been able to do in the past because God is going to allow the world to have their way for a certain amount of time to cause all people that do not love Him to follow a kingdom that acknowledges no personal God.
The reason for this is so God can end this sin business on earth,which God is love and will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,so He will allow the wicked to rebel against Him so He can end this sin business on earth.
God is always in control but He has given us a choice somewhat,and that somewhat is people have a choice to do wicked but it can only go so far,but when the 7 years period happens the devil will be able to influence like he has not been able to do in the past with the first three and one half years working in the world as a man trying to promote peace,and the last three and one half years as the New Age Christ,man of sin,and the devils will be cast to earth and deceive all people that do not love God to follow the beast kingdom which is the strong delusion God will send all people that do not love Him.
I kind of do not understand when people say God is in control,or He is not in control however far they say that,but God gave us a choice so people will make wrong choices,but it can only go so far as of now,but the restraint will be off in the future and it will be people can be as wicked as they want and as deceptive as much as they want for it is time for God to end this sin business on earth.
I think people want to say God is in control because they want to believe that God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice in the matter,so they can never lose salvation.
But the Bible says many are called but few are chosen,and God wants all people to repent,and come to the knowledge of the truth,and be saved,and Jesus lights every person that is born in this world,and the Spirit and bride say Come,and anybody that wants that salvation can have it.
I do not understand people and their ignoring,misinterpreting,bias opinion,fleshy,got to hear it the way I want to hear it,ways about them.
The Bible plainly states things and they say not so.
And they claim to be a Christian and do that,so if God is in control then why can there be so many misinterpretations of His word concerning the different denominations,and serious errors,even to the point of the occult interpreting it that way through the new age movement that will pave the way to the beast kingdom.
But of course God is in control even if there are false interpretations of His word.
God gave us a choice so some people will be wicked,but He still has a plan going on throughout history that cannot be thwarted no matter how wicked they become.
But He gave us a choice whether to choose salvation or not for His kingdom is true love,not robotic love.
For if He chooses who will be saved without their choice then their faith is not real,their love is not real,their belief in God is not real,their confession of Jesus is not real,their repentance of sins is not real,their hope is not real,for it did not come from them but God,and they have no choice but to comply like a programmed robot seeing no other alternative.
Now how does that make logical,reality based,sense,especially when God is the greatest love,and will people have greater love between them than God and His people,seeing people would have the choice to love each other,but God's people do not have the choice to love God but have to comply seeing no other alternative.
If they say God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice,then they are saying that God's kingdom is not true love,and He is evil for condemning people that did nothing wrong for He chose them to be not saved without their choice,and you do not want to be saying that about God for that is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,which I know they do not intend to do that.
These people that want to believe that God chooses who will be saved and not saved in the beginning without their choice trip me out with how they ignore scriptures,and do not harmonize scriptures,and do not understand scriptures.
And why do they do that,because they are fleshy,and they can get on your nerves with their worldliness going as far as saying they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,and they do not have to obey Christ for salvation,and do not have to love for salvation,because nothing can hinder them from salvation.
Which they say those things because they know the hypocrisy,and worldliness,and fleshiness,about them,so they have to justify it by saying it does not affect their relationship with God,and they want to enjoy some things of the flesh is why they believe what they believe.
God is in control and has a plan going on throughout history that cannot be thwarted,but he has given us a choice so some people will be wicked,but that does not hinder God's plan He has going on,and the wicked,and the devil can only go so far,but one day the wicked can be as wicked as they want,and and the devil can influence them to be as wicked as they can be,but God is still in control and has a plan that cannot be thwarted and will put down the wicked after they follow the beast kingdom that acknowledges no personal God.
For the beast kingdom took away the hope of the world,which it will devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces,and the beast has power over all nations,kindreds,and tongues,so all Gentile nations governments are involved with the belief that there is no personal God.
As long as one nation acknowledges a higher power,a personal God,there is hope for the world,for people might turn to God,and Jesus as Lord and Savior,but the beast kingdom took that hope away,so it is over for mankind's ruling on earth by their governments.
If they do not acknowledge a personal God then they will not come to the God of Israel,and will not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior,for they would not come to that belief.
Not always, by a long shot.
It was not God's will for mankind to become so corrupt that "every thought and intent of the heart was only evil all the time" (Gen 6:5). God was sorry He had made men, and darned near destroyed them all. But Noah found grace..
It was not God's will for King Saul and Solomon to become corrupt.
It was not God's will for Israel to be constantly falling away, then repenting.
There are SO many examples...
It was not God's will for mankind to become so corrupt that "every thought and intent of the heart was only evil all the time" (Gen 6:5). God was sorry He had made men, and darned near destroyed them all. But Noah found grace..
It was not God's will for King Saul and Solomon to become corrupt.
It was not God's will for Israel to be constantly falling away, then repenting.
There are SO many examples...
Should I thank him for my younger sister dying cancer when she was 1 1/2 years old?
Should the wives of the people beheaded by muslims thank Him because their husbands were brutally murdered?
Should the families of all those lost in 9/11 thank Him?
Should the parents of all the school kids killed at Sandy Hook thank Him?
Do you believe all those things were God's will?
I SURE as heck do NOT.
Should the wives of the people beheaded by muslims thank Him because their husbands were brutally murdered?
Should the families of all those lost in 9/11 thank Him?
Should the parents of all the school kids killed at Sandy Hook thank Him?
Do you believe all those things were God's will?
I SURE as heck do NOT.
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