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C
bro i see on your profile that your spitual status is still insure so i take it you havent surrendered to Jesus yet. In by no means am i trying to be disrespectful but to answer your question you need to understand the bible, law from old testament what it means and implies to grace and what Jesus actually has done for you (me,everyone) personally.
whatever you do, dont kill them lol. if your interested just ask and many good stout hearted God loving people here would be more than willing to share the gift that is being presented to you, the gift of eternal life with God, i truely believe God has led you here for a reason more than knowing what to do about a few witches.
with love
whatever you do, dont kill them lol. if your interested just ask and many good stout hearted God loving people here would be more than willing to share the gift that is being presented to you, the gift of eternal life with God, i truely believe God has led you here for a reason more than knowing what to do about a few witches.
with love
J
If I shouldn't kill them then why not? Why is this in the bible and what does it mean if it doesn't mean that I should not allow witches to be alive?
Also, I was raised christian but I chose unsure because after actually reading most of the bible and doing a bit of research with an open mind I am not sure about some things. I am here because I would like to try to understand some things better.
Also, I was raised christian but I chose unsure because after actually reading most of the bible and doing a bit of research with an open mind I am not sure about some things. I am here because I would like to try to understand some things better.
J
Well I guess it couldn't hurt my chances of gaining understanding. No offense meant but I find I usually learn things more easily when I actually get written or verbal responses to my questions though. Not that I wouldn't trust the voices in my head or anything but perhaps a human who understands these things better than I do could be more helpful in this situation?
Thanks for the suggestion though. If only it were that simple I would not have needed to come here at all.
Thanks for the suggestion though. If only it were that simple I would not have needed to come here at all.
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im tending to agree with consumed.. i dont think you have a full understanding of this bro.. most of the OT is directed to the israelites. (as is this verse) during this time they were to be a HOLY people. no type of sin was to be in them, and that includes around them. they were to to completely seperate themselfs from the world.(sound familiar?)
C
Hi John1
Prayer always helps, and is usually the most sure fire way of getting answers to any questions you have. You must remember that it is the Spirit of God that helps us to understand the Bible. Without that Guy, we would be lost, so always good to ask for His help in understanding His Word.
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Pet 1:20-21) so if He was the one moving the men who wrote, who better to go to than to Him
with regard to your question, I also don't have a 100% 'thus sayeth the Lord' answer, though it is my understanding as from what I have studied so far (which is not much mind you)
during the exodus, when the people were leaving Egypt, they still had no real understanding of God. due to the fact that they were in a foreign land where people did not worship or do as God would have wanted. They came from a land flowing with other gods and idol worship, and so God had to specifically tell them how to act, what to do, what not to do etc. thats why i think Exodus and Deuteronomy and all those books are like filled with rules and regulations. God was trying to bring His people back to a knowledge of Him and to get them back on the right path. i mean they had just seen all the plagues n Egypt, then walked through the Red Sea. yet when Moses 'delays' on the mountain, they go and make an idol to worship!! so you can say they did not really understand or trust God after being in Egypt for so long. so i view it as God gave all those harsh and straightforward laws (such as kill the witch!!) in order to get them right. they were so far gone that they needed drastic measures to be brought back!
now with today, i think we are at a different place. please understand that i think witchcraft and such is very wrong and it draws you closer to the devil instead of God. if you think about it, it is a sin. and all sin is simply wrong. yet, at the same time, all sins are equal. for if you break 1 commandment, you are guilty of all (James 2:10). so you will need to pray for your friends, that they might turn from their ways and be saved. just as you would if they were drug addicts. help them where you can, pray for them daily, but most of all, show them the Love of Christ. when He caught you in sin, He did not zap you straight away!! so show them the same patience and Love that He showed to you.
i know i digressed a bit (i just read through it now) but hope it helps man.
Much Love yo!!
Prayer always helps, and is usually the most sure fire way of getting answers to any questions you have. You must remember that it is the Spirit of God that helps us to understand the Bible. Without that Guy, we would be lost, so always good to ask for His help in understanding His Word.
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Pet 1:20-21) so if He was the one moving the men who wrote, who better to go to than to Him
with regard to your question, I also don't have a 100% 'thus sayeth the Lord' answer, though it is my understanding as from what I have studied so far (which is not much mind you
)during the exodus, when the people were leaving Egypt, they still had no real understanding of God. due to the fact that they were in a foreign land where people did not worship or do as God would have wanted. They came from a land flowing with other gods and idol worship, and so God had to specifically tell them how to act, what to do, what not to do etc. thats why i think Exodus and Deuteronomy and all those books are like filled with rules and regulations. God was trying to bring His people back to a knowledge of Him and to get them back on the right path. i mean they had just seen all the plagues n Egypt, then walked through the Red Sea. yet when Moses 'delays' on the mountain, they go and make an idol to worship!! so you can say they did not really understand or trust God after being in Egypt for so long. so i view it as God gave all those harsh and straightforward laws (such as kill the witch!!) in order to get them right. they were so far gone that they needed drastic measures to be brought back!
now with today, i think we are at a different place. please understand that i think witchcraft and such is very wrong and it draws you closer to the devil instead of God. if you think about it, it is a sin. and all sin is simply wrong. yet, at the same time, all sins are equal. for if you break 1 commandment, you are guilty of all (James 2:10). so you will need to pray for your friends, that they might turn from their ways and be saved. just as you would if they were drug addicts. help them where you can, pray for them daily, but most of all, show them the Love of Christ. when He caught you in sin, He did not zap you straight away!! so show them the same patience and Love that He showed to you.
i know i digressed a bit (i just read through it now
) but hope it helps man.Much Love yo!!
S
hey i had alot of thoughts and questions too bro. through reading,church and help form other brother and sisters i learned a grip of stuff.one thing i guess is that your a thinker right? you question everything. and you question not out of disrespect but just out of the sure pure and simple "why?" why not? why should i? why should'nt i? and so on. hey ill be on for another 30 mins. ill be in the prayer room. if you really want to know, come on over and lets talk. ill be wiating...............
The answer is NO! It means that you should get on your knees and asked Jesus Christ to me merciful to you and forgive and cleanse you from all sin. God sent His Son and who ever believes upon Him will not perish but will have everlasting life. That is the beginning of wisdom and understanding. Do you believe that Christ shed His blood for your sins?
Your friends that practice witchcraft are in unbelief and some form of rebellion against God (1Sam 15:23). If you believe God for the cleansing of your own sin though Jesus Christ, then also believe God for your friends. There is only one God and one way to salvation and that is through Jesus Christ.
Your friends that practice witchcraft are in unbelief and some form of rebellion against God (1Sam 15:23). If you believe God for the cleansing of your own sin though Jesus Christ, then also believe God for your friends. There is only one God and one way to salvation and that is through Jesus Christ.
when God gave the laws to his people israel
he was very strict : anyone breaking certain rules must be killed,and one of them is regarding witchcraft must be killed: because God wont allow any corruption to start corrupting his people. it does not apply to you, unless Jusus mentioned it,which he did not.
''wakeup''.
E
One must realize when God set up his nation, He wanted to be their king, (unlike other nations who had men as kings) He did eventually allow Israel to heave her own king, they chose saul, but this was not yet.
In setting up this nation, he made rules and regulations (laws) which were to guide this nation. Some laws if broken, had lesser consequences. Other laws, if broken, brought the death penalty (such as witchcraft) This was a national law, and the national justice system was set up by God.
We are not Israel, nor does our federal laws state that witches are to be executed. Nor do we follow jewish law as given by Christ. Thus to kill your friends would be against our federal law, Against what God wants from the church and those in the church (who are told to obey civil authority and their laws) and could get you the death penalty for murder.
In setting up this nation, he made rules and regulations (laws) which were to guide this nation. Some laws if broken, had lesser consequences. Other laws, if broken, brought the death penalty (such as witchcraft) This was a national law, and the national justice system was set up by God.
We are not Israel, nor does our federal laws state that witches are to be executed. Nor do we follow jewish law as given by Christ. Thus to kill your friends would be against our federal law, Against what God wants from the church and those in the church (who are told to obey civil authority and their laws) and could get you the death penalty for murder.