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1. Since the Holy Spirit begot Jesus through Mary, doesn't that mean He has to be God the Father of Jesus?
2. When we call God a "He," who are we referring to? Is there are fourth person suggested by this?
For example, what if I say "I believe in God - I believe in Him." Who is the "Him" referring to? One or all of the persons of God, or the being of God?
Usually, the Trinity model has "God" in the middle, and the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in a Triangle around it. However, when we call God a "He," this is what it seems to suggest instead:
{-----------Son (person)
GOD (person?){ ------------Father (person)
{---------- Holy Spirit (person)
Or does it not?
3. When in Isaiah 53 God says that He will raise up His servant...who was speaking? Is the Father speaking now? Is the Son speaking about His servant (Himself?)?
4. If Jesus has the nature of God, how can He be "granted" to have life in Himself?
5. If Jesus has the nature of God, why would He say "Not my will but yours be done?" Isn't His will God's will, since He is God incarnate? (not the Father but the Son.)
6. If Jesus has the nature of God, why would He say "If you believe in Me, you do not believe in Me, but in Him who sent me?" How can you not believe in Jesus if He is God?
7. A more obvious question, why did the Son not know the day of His return? I know the argument that He laid aside divine rights when He took on human flesh - but how can you lay aside knowledge? I understand laying aside authority (which was given back to Him I guess when He came here...and when He went into heaven), but knowledge?
8. Can I say "There is one God, the Father," as in 1 Corinthians 8:6, or must I say "There is one God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?" Wasn't Paul excluding the Son and the Holy Spirit here?
I understand we could say "The Father is the one God." But can we say "the one God is the Father..."?
There are more questions I have, but this is suitable for now. Please understand - I really am trying to get a hold on this. Why is it so complicated? I have read much on the Trinity. I've listened to James White's debates, I've read Putting Jesus in His Place, I have tried to study the passages of Scripture with the little knowledge I have, I have done more - but just as the Trinity seems to be right, another question pops up in my head (and it usually goes unanswered).
Just try to answer the best you can - but please do it after praying and searching deeply. I don't want throw-off answers - this is serious. Don't even look at my age, just look at the questions.
Grace and Love
2. When we call God a "He," who are we referring to? Is there are fourth person suggested by this?
For example, what if I say "I believe in God - I believe in Him." Who is the "Him" referring to? One or all of the persons of God, or the being of God?
Usually, the Trinity model has "God" in the middle, and the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in a Triangle around it. However, when we call God a "He," this is what it seems to suggest instead:
{-----------Son (person)
GOD (person?){ ------------Father (person)
{---------- Holy Spirit (person)
Or does it not?
3. When in Isaiah 53 God says that He will raise up His servant...who was speaking? Is the Father speaking now? Is the Son speaking about His servant (Himself?)?
4. If Jesus has the nature of God, how can He be "granted" to have life in Himself?
5. If Jesus has the nature of God, why would He say "Not my will but yours be done?" Isn't His will God's will, since He is God incarnate? (not the Father but the Son.)
6. If Jesus has the nature of God, why would He say "If you believe in Me, you do not believe in Me, but in Him who sent me?" How can you not believe in Jesus if He is God?
7. A more obvious question, why did the Son not know the day of His return? I know the argument that He laid aside divine rights when He took on human flesh - but how can you lay aside knowledge? I understand laying aside authority (which was given back to Him I guess when He came here...and when He went into heaven), but knowledge?
8. Can I say "There is one God, the Father," as in 1 Corinthians 8:6, or must I say "There is one God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?" Wasn't Paul excluding the Son and the Holy Spirit here?
I understand we could say "The Father is the one God." But can we say "the one God is the Father..."?
There are more questions I have, but this is suitable for now. Please understand - I really am trying to get a hold on this. Why is it so complicated? I have read much on the Trinity. I've listened to James White's debates, I've read Putting Jesus in His Place, I have tried to study the passages of Scripture with the little knowledge I have, I have done more - but just as the Trinity seems to be right, another question pops up in my head (and it usually goes unanswered).
Just try to answer the best you can - but please do it after praying and searching deeply. I don't want throw-off answers - this is serious. Don't even look at my age, just look at the questions.
Grace and Love