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J
They did. That's because they cleaned the outside of the cup.
it does work.
Quit ascribing to yourself power that does not belong to you, but rather, apostles.
Anyone can clean up the outside of the cup with relative ease.
Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,
Admittedly, I don't trust you regardless of this specific issue, because you have shown yourself to be one who ignores clear principles in scripture.
it does work.
Anyone can clean up the outside of the cup with relative ease.
Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,
Admittedly, I don't trust you regardless of this specific issue, because you have shown yourself to be one who ignores clear principles in scripture.
J
Jesus says so himself.
Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Ever heard of the parable of Wheat and Tares?
I never said that. The bible says that humans are created by God, the Psalmist describes it as being "knit in my mothers womb".
Is everyone atoned for?
If so, why is someone being treated as though their account is lacking, when it's been paid in full?
Let alone, Jesus says it himself.
John 10
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Ever heard of the parable of Wheat and Tares?
I never said that. The bible says that humans are created by God, the Psalmist describes it as being "knit in my mothers womb".
Is everyone atoned for?
If so, why is someone being treated as though their account is lacking, when it's been paid in full?
Let alone, Jesus says it himself.
John 10
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
J
If everyone's sin "bank account" is paid for, why do they keep getting bills in the mail? Why will there be a warrant out for their arrest(hell)? (metaphor, think it through)
Not everyone can "accept".
Romans 8:7
7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
Regeneration is a work of God, not man.
Not everyone can "accept".
Romans 8:7
7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
Regeneration is a work of God, not man.
J
Proverbs 30:5
5 For his anger lasts only a moment,
but his favor lasts a lifetime;
weeping may stay for the night,
but rejoicing comes in the morning.
Isaiah 54:7
7 “For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.
Isaiah 54:8
8 In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,”
says the LORD your Redeemer.
Psalm 78:38
38 Yet he was merciful;
he forgave their iniquities
and did not destroy them.
Time after time he restrained his anger
and did not stir up his full wrath.
Psalm 5:5(ESV)
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes;
you hate all evildoers.
5 For his anger lasts only a moment,
but his favor lasts a lifetime;
weeping may stay for the night,
but rejoicing comes in the morning.
Isaiah 54:7
7 “For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.
Isaiah 54:8
8 In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,”
says the LORD your Redeemer.
Psalm 78:38
38 Yet he was merciful;
he forgave their iniquities
and did not destroy them.
Time after time he restrained his anger
and did not stir up his full wrath.
Psalm 5:5(ESV)
The boastful shall not stand before your eyes;
you hate all evildoers.
B
Pfft. I'm dead to sin
When the Bible says we're dead to sin it means Jesus cleared our name and we are predestined to be sinless in glory with God. Obviously you sin. If you say you don't then you're in pretty bad denial because then you'd be claiming that since you've been saved you havn't made one mistake. Never had an evil thought or intention... claiming perfection. Romans 3:10 "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;" If you think you've reached perfection, that's really bad, because the Bible says that we are weak, but He is strong. 2 Cor. 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." But conversely I can see an arguement for it in James "So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing." Course I would never go as far as to say we don't sin any more because that's denial. It just doesn't work that way. You do realize that having a fantasy about a gay encouter would be sinful. Are you saying you've never had even one of those since you've been saved? It can happen, but it doesn't happen to everyone. I know because I've been praying to God for years to get rid of a porn addiction I have and He decided not to help me.
It would be good not to say I'm leaving, bye. It shows your immaturity every time you keep making comments. What's wrong with having a discussion? It's rude to think you can tell the world that they need to believe what you do and not expect anyone to disagree with you on it. Did you not suppose there would be differing worldviews comming from a chatsite with any denomination available to chat? You must know by now that the claims you're making aren't main stream Christian beliefs. Not saying they're wrong necissarily, just the way the times are. Getting along with people in a civil way will go miles in convincing them you're side. The smilie faces are good, but they seem pretentious and haughty when combined with a I know everything, you don't know anything unless it agrees with my views attitude. I get that you're passionate. And zeal is a good thing, but there's also such thing as being closed minded. There's more than one way to know God, because there's more than one perspective, and they both can come from a love of the Bible.
J
1 Cor 10:13
13 No temptation[a] has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted,[c] he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
He does help you every time you are tempted. He provides a way out.
EDIT:I say this as one who has shared the same struggle.
13 No temptation[a] has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted,[c] he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
He does help you every time you are tempted. He provides a way out.
EDIT:I say this as one who has shared the same struggle.
H
When the Bible says we're dead to sin it means Jesus cleared our name and we are predestined to be sinless in glory with God. Obviously you sin. If you say you don't then you're in pretty bad denial because then you'd be claiming that since you've been saved you havn't made one mistake. Never had an evil thought or intention... claiming perfection. Romans 3:10 "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;" If you think you've reached perfection, that's really bad, because the Bible says that we are weak, but He is strong. 2 Cor. 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." But conversely I can see an arguement for it in James "So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing." Course I would never go as far as to say we don't sin any more because that's denial. It just doesn't work that way. You do realize that having a fantasy about a gay encouter would be sinful. Are you saying you've never had even one of those since you've been saved? It can happen, but it doesn't happen to everyone. I know because I've been praying to God for years to get rid of a porn addiction I have and He decided not to help me.
It would be good not to say I'm leaving, bye. It shows your immaturity every time you keep making comments. What's wrong with having a discussion? It's rude to think you can tell the world that they need to believe what you do and not expect anyone to disagree with you on it. Did you not suppose there would be differing worldviews comming from a chatsite with any denomination available to chat? You must know by now that the claims you're making aren't main stream Christian beliefs. Not saying they're wrong necissarily, just the way the times are. Getting along with people in a civil way will go miles in convincing them you're side. The smilie faces are good, but they seem pretentious and haughty when combined with a I know everything, you don't know anything unless it agrees with my views attitude. I get that you're passionate. And zeal is a good thing, but there's also such thing as being closed minded. There's more than one way to know God, because there's more than one perspective, and they both can come from a love of the Bible.[/QUOTE]
I never claimed to not have sin. I just know my sin is no longer held against me
I know I mess uo, and fail, but its not held against me, so no, I'm not in denial.