GOD CREATES EVIL

[simplyme_bekah]

God is everything pure and lovely and beautiful and our human minds cannot comprehend this quiet fully until we are in the presence of our Lord I think. And to me it feels like to me that the absence of God is evil.

 

[jimmydiggs]

The absence of Gods presence is evil.

Actually, from a strictly logical point of view... the non-existance of God leaves a massive collapse in epistemology and metaphysics.

 

[simplyme_bekah]

He is only non existent to the blind and to the fools that refuse to see Him for all that He is and all that He offers. But one day every knee shall bow. I will be there that day and I will have this beautiful smile on my face with love overflowing in my heart as me and my Lord gaze at each other.

You know he sends quiet a bit of Atheist my way and I always just tell them to forget what the world and human beings say about God and go to God and ask Him and to not be surprised when they get their answer.

 

[cfultz3]

He is only non existent to the blind and to the fools that refuse to see Him for all that He is and all that He offers. But one day every knee shall bow. I will be there that day and I will have this beautiful smile on my face with love overflowing in my heart as me and my Lord gaze at each other.

A big enough smile to burst open into praise

 

[simplyme_bekah]

A big enough smile to burst open into praise

you betcha

 

[Mediate]

He is only non existent to the blind and to the fools that refuse to see Him for all that He is and all that He offers. But one day every knee shall bow. I will be there that day and I will have this beautiful smile on my face with love overflowing in my heart as me and my Lord gaze at each other.

You know he sends quiet a bit of Atheist my way and I always just tell them to forget what the world and human beings say about God and go to God and ask Him and to not be surprised when they get their answer.

The great thing is, God won't lift a hand when all those knees bow. He'll be just as gazingly, longingly loving as we all will.

It's a beautiful thought.

 

[MidniteWelder]

When God said, behold the man has now become like one of us knowing good AND evil.
It means we now know the difference.
Evil is when our own will is chosen over Gods will.
When we allow desire to give birth to sin.
Satan, by his own nature also doesnt cause us to sin any more than God could who may well have created evil.
It is within our own selves we choose rebellion against Gods will.
Evil...darkness...the absence of his light we shut out when we shut the door to his will into the darkness of our own.
Another reason for repentance, God said he will bring qall things into light.
When we shed light on our own motives and desires
Gods light, it is then evil can be allowed to be purged from our being by letting Gods light become ever brighter through us.
If God created evil, one reason would be so he could be glorified sitting back and smiling by us rejecting THAT...instead of rejecting him
Much the same as when Job remained faithful refusing the thought of rejecting God in spite of all the trials.
If we think about it, God created Lucifer, and Lucifer became evil and is now called Satan.
Notice the name change
Also Notice the many instances of how Christ renames people in the bible.
Lucifer is no longer called an Angel of "LIGHT"
He is now darkness, opposite of God in his own selfish will to be like God.
To think he knows better than God.
Just like so many people who say they wish to learn from their own mistakes instead of just listening to God to prevent them.
We are only evil when we know the difference, when we have the knowledge of Good and evil, yet still choose not Gods ways.
Learn to walk in Gods ways, to prevent walking away from him.
Amen

Yes, LORD, walking in the way of your laws, we wait for you; your name and renown are the desire of our hearts.
Direct me in the path of your commands, for there I find delight

What are Gods ways?
He has told us from the beginning in order to avoid sin(rebellion)
And even in the beginning, Man has chosen his own ways(not listening to God and listening to ..........their own depraved mind)
God knew without a contrast between Good and evil, we would take him for granted.
Evil is only present for us to know and appreciate his goodness all the more when we choose him willingly.
Thereby His glory magnified
And the evil of satan diminished when rejecting the flesh and choosing the spirit.
Thats why we're here. Thats how we glorify God.
If anything is not for him in purpose in motive in line with his will, it is against him, anything...thats what evil is.
And if we look around, then we can understand how the world is so wicked, since how many things in the world are for his purpose?
Looking at this, how many things are we involved with and do we allow to fill our life that are then against him simply for not being
FOR HIM!

 

[Mediate]

personally i think evil people need hugs. lots of hugs. Something they probably haven't had much of

 

[GreenNnice]

When God said, behold the man has now become like one of us knowing good AND evil.
It means we now know the difference.
Evil is when our own will is chosen over Gods will.
When we allow desire to give birth to sin.
Satan, by his own nature also doesnt cause us to sin any more than God could who may well have created evil.
It is within our own selves we choose rebellion against Gods will.
Evil...darkness...the absence of his light we shut out when we shut the door to his will into the darkness of our own.
Another reason for repentance, God said he will bring qall things into light.
When we shed light on our own motives and desires
Gods light, it is then evil can be allowed to be purged from our being by letting Gods light become ever brighter through us.
If God created evil, one reason would be so he could be glorified sitting back and smiling by us rejecting THAT...instead of rejecting him
Much the same as when Job remained faithful refusing the thought of rejecting God in spite of all the trials.
If we think about it, God created Lucifer, and Lucifer became evil and is now called Satan.
Notice the name change
Also Notice the many instances of how Christ renames people in the bible.
Lucifer is no longer called an Angel of "LIGHT"
He is now darkness, opposite of God in his own selfish will to be like God.
To think he knows better than God.
Just like so many people who say they wish to learn from their own mistakes instead of just listening to God to prevent them.
We are only evil when we know the difference, when we have the knowledge of Good and evil, yet still choose not Gods ways.
Learn to walk in Gods ways, to prevent walking away from him.
Amen

Yes, LORD, walking in the way of your laws, we wait for you; your name and renown are the desire of our hearts.
Direct me in the path of your commands, for there I find delight

What are Gods ways?
He has told us from the beginning in order to avoid sin(rebellion)
And even in the beginning, Man has chosen his own ways(not listening to God and listening to ..........their own depraved mind)
God knew without a contrast between Good and evil, we would take him for granted.
Evil is only present for us to know and appreciate his goodness all the more when we choose him willingly.
Thereby His glory magnified
And the evil of satan diminished when rejecting the flesh and choosing the spirit.
Thats why we're here. Thats how we glorify God.
If anything is not for him in purpose in motive in line with his will, it is against him, anything...thats what evil is.
And if we look around, then we can understand how the world is so wicked, since how many things in the world are for his purpose?
Looking at this, how many things are we involved with and do we allow to fill our life that are then against him simply for not being
FOR HIM!

The verse , 'God is no respecter of persons' comes to mind.
He will DO whatever He good, will, pleases. Just will, His freecwill, can do whatever He wants.
Yes, evil is certainly there for a reason. His He uses it to bring others to Him, to glorify Him, so be it calamity or whatever, God will do 'it' to stop things, start things, do whatever is for His ultimate glorious plan, that is beyond understanding. Man does the evil, God FINISHES things, you better Love God. First . Keep 'My commandments,' and, Love 'My Law.' Or, else !!!

You can only Keep His ways unto you, by having Him in you, Only. His Spirit of GRACE AH, so Flood-worthy, 911 ending, by His Spirit, His grace leading, this is our God, just !

 

[Mediate]

But it's all geared towards God being a tyrant.

God is not a tyrant.

God doesn't respect, in the sense of, 'look up to', people. Of course not. He's God!!!

But in the same way, God does value each and every person, as a father would a child.

 

[simplyme_bekah]

The great thing is, God won't lift a hand when all those knees bow. He'll be just as gazingly, longingly loving as we all will.

It's a beautiful thought.

hahahaha its way more then a beautiful thought when you really know our Savior Jesus. He is anything but stingy or quiet in your life when you become his friend. Try it

 

[GreenNnice]

But it's all geared towards God being a tyrant.

God is not a tyrant.

God doesn't respect, in the sense of, 'look up to', people. Of course not. He's God!!!
Right, not in that sense because that is not what RESPECTER OF PERSONS means, mediation

But in the same way, God does value each and every person, as a father would a child.

Yes.
But if you don't Keep your word with mom and dad, they lose trust in you, and, is this not, ultimately, going to lead to a loss of your parents respect?
So, if God makes an agreement with us, if we don't respect His Law what will happen?
Different judgments, plusz, just best to be in right fellowship with God because you never know when your on a 'plane' that is goingcto crash in a field because evil happens. Yourecprecious to God,make no errorzcbut God's will WILL be done, universally meted on His schedule til Satan thrown in lake with those jot found in book of life.His ENDS will be carried out, best be with Him, plane and simple

 

[Mediate]

Yes.
But if you don't Keep your word with mom and dad, they lose trust in you, and, is this not, ultimately, going to lead to a loss of your parents respect?
So, if God makes an agreement with us, if we don't respect His Law what will happen?
Different judgments, plusz, just best to be in right fellowship with God because you never know when your on a 'plane' that is goingcto crash in a field because evil happens. Yourecprecious to God,make no errorzcbut God's will WILL be done, universally meted on His schedule til Satan thrown in lake with those jot found in book of life.His ENDS will be carried out, best be with Him, plane and simple

Using the logic of earthy parents, in a place where we 'only see in part', would you take your kids into the cellar and flog them to death? Or would you put them in a torture furnace and keep them there until they died?

Would you do that while calling yourself a loving Dad?

Affliction, gnashing teeth, they aren't torture.

And you forget also that God knows us in completeness. More than our parents do. His patience has good reason.

Nothing is instant.

I mean, God could really just wipe the world out and be done with it.

Hey, He could even send his son to only die for some people's sins. And He could be untrue to the revelations he gave to Paul and John ..

But then He wouldn't be God, would he?

He'd be a fallacy.

 

[kennyjames]

trilogic: hi. Isaiah:45,7 old testament. look deeper, Jesus spoke many parables, (like father/like son????) God did create evil when he created (satin)!!!!!!! hows that for deep thinking??????????? ha! ha! that's well intended humor, meaning the ha ha part just thought youd like to know. kennyjames or kenj

 

[kennyjames]

hi simplyme: old testament Isaiah 45,7 ive been 2 days trying to figure this God creating evil thing out. I remembered how Jesus spoke so many parables, (like father/like son???) God did create evil when he created (satin) who betrayed God in rebellion. read the scripture passage and look deep into how Jesus spoke parables. thought youd like to know. signed: kennyjames or kenj

 

[ForthAngel]

hi simplyme: old testament Isaiah 45,7 ive been 2 days trying to figure this God creating evil thing out. I remembered how Jesus spoke so many parables, (like father/like son???) God did create evil when he created (satin) who betrayed God in rebellion. read the scripture passage and look deep into how Jesus spoke parables. thought youd like to know. signed: kennyjames or kenj

Hi kennyjames. I'm not an expert but here is what I believe personally. I think when God created, he created with order and within a structure of laws. Evil was not created, but his creations, such as humans and angels, were created with the capability of breaking some of his laws. Evil is the transgression of his laws aka sin aka lawlessness. Evil is simply a bi-product of a lessor being breaking the laws of God. It isn't "something" in and of itself. It doesn't exist by itself. The evil in Isaiah there I think is better translated as calamity. Many times in the Old Testament evil is really a calamity and many times refers to death, not necessarily an act of lawlessness.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe someone else has a better answer. This is a personal theory anyway.