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I do not agree with any view on this except the one given by Jesus. http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/40948-unregenerate-israel-christians.html
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Yes, but the Bible is the authority for what is prescribed for Christians.
And Christianity is judged by what it requires.
So your charge is pure prevarication in light of what is presribed for Muslims.
For it is not US Christian religious teaching which prescribes killing those of another religion as did Hitler, rather it is Muslim religious teaching which prescribes murder as did Hitler.
And Muslimism is judged by what it requires.
You can't whitewash its murderous nature with "not all believe it."
Why are you defending a murderous religion?
The deception here is yours.
And Christianity is judged by what it requires.
So your charge is pure prevarication in light of what is presribed for Muslims.
For it is not US Christian religious teaching which prescribes killing those of another religion as did Hitler, rather it is Muslim religious teaching which prescribes murder as did Hitler.
And Muslimism is judged by what it requires.
You can't whitewash its murderous nature with "not all believe it."
Why are you defending a murderous religion?
The deception here is yours.
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While I would agree with your statement, the "war" is actually already here. Wealthy Muslims are both purchasing / selling and financing loans for the billions of dollars worth of American banks, business and properties in our major cities ever year incorporating Islamic Shariah law into the process. I know this because I have witnessed it with my own eyes.
They will no doubt attempt to do in America what they have already done in England and other European nations, insisting that any kind of negotiations, disputes and / or settlements for these business / properties must be resolved in Islamic Shariah courts thus forcing the American government to adopt certain elements of Shariah law.
Muslims are actually doing everything that Antisemites have accused the Jews of doing for centuries.
same to you.
grow up and learn something.
you're 41 years old - what's your excuse?
i seriously question whether the Spirit of Truth is operating in those who continue this delusion.
maybe you don't mind being hoodwinked, but at least be quiet about it.
muslims didn't do 911.
stop bearing false witness and approving the slaughter of Arabs and others as a result of the greatest false flag atrocity perpetuated on American soil.
americans who bleat the same trash you're doing now are responsible for what's happening in the Arabs nations beginning with that horror show in Iraq.
it's on your head everytime you repeat this disgraceful loony-tune version of the 911 events.
if america does end up being attacked by anyone other than Mossad, the Neocons, and it's own treasonous CIA, it'll be because she deserves it after all that bloodshed and hatred. you think one people can bomb and poison and bulldoze other people and not have them remember that you did this? BASED ON A LIE?
and you call yourself a Christian?
grow up and learn something.
you're 41 years old - what's your excuse?
i seriously question whether the Spirit of Truth is operating in those who continue this delusion.
maybe you don't mind being hoodwinked, but at least be quiet about it.
muslims didn't do 911.
stop bearing false witness and approving the slaughter of Arabs and others as a result of the greatest false flag atrocity perpetuated on American soil.
americans who bleat the same trash you're doing now are responsible for what's happening in the Arabs nations beginning with that horror show in Iraq.
it's on your head everytime you repeat this disgraceful loony-tune version of the 911 events.
if america does end up being attacked by anyone other than Mossad, the Neocons, and it's own treasonous CIA, it'll be because she deserves it after all that bloodshed and hatred. you think one people can bomb and poison and bulldoze other people and not have them remember that you did this? BASED ON A LIE?
and you call yourself a Christian?
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Ten years ago, I would have opposed all of this. Ten years ago, I was a dispensationalist ... and believed that the Israel of God was a strip of land in the middle east. None will learn who aren't willing to consider.
"And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which He sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein."And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that He sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.
"There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass" (Josh. 21:43-45).
"And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which He sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein."And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that He sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.
"There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass" (Josh. 21:43-45).
All came to pass at the time of Joshua. Since then the Lord spoke to Israel further words through her prophets some of which remains to be fulfilled.
example: For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
(Eze 36:24-28)
perhaps a partial but not a complete fulfillment has a happened so far.
example: For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
(Eze 36:24-28)
perhaps a partial but not a complete fulfillment has a happened so far.
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Hebrews 11:8-9 Abraham knew what the real land was.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
Which was:
Hebrews 12:22-22
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Here they all came back and received a new heart and new spirit on Pentecost.
Acts 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.[SUP]6 [/SUP]Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Hebrews 8:9-10 fulfillment Eze:24-28
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
Which was:
Hebrews 12:22-22
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Here they all came back and received a new heart and new spirit on Pentecost.
Acts 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.[SUP]6 [/SUP]Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Hebrews 8:9-10 fulfillment Eze:24-28
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Jesus' NT revelation (Heb 1:1-2) includes more than Mt 5-7.
It includes all the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, John, Jude, Hebrews; and Mark, Luke, John and Acts.
Messianic Jews who favor their nation over any of Jesus' NT revelation are likewise guilty of "Nationalism covered with 'Christianity'."
This is a Biblical forum, not a political forum.
It includes all the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, John, Jude, Hebrews; and Mark, Luke, John and Acts.
Messianic Jews who favor their nation over any of Jesus' NT revelation are likewise guilty of "Nationalism covered with 'Christianity'."
This is a Biblical forum, not a political forum.
