The Fullness of the Gentiles

[doulos]

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in - KJV
Rom 11:25 For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be wise within yourselves, that hardness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the nations comes in; - LITV
Rom 11:25 For I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, of this secret--that ye may not be wise in your own conceits--that hardness in part to Israel hath happened till the fulness of the nations may come in; _ YLT
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, have you ignorant of this mystery, lest ye be wise in your own conceits, that a hardening in part hath befallen Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in; - ASV
Rom 11:25 My friends, I don't want you Gentiles to be too proud of yourselves. So I will explain the mystery of what has happened to the people of Israel. Some of them have become stubborn, and they will stay like that until the complete number of you Gentiles has come in. - CEV
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

It appears to me that based on the context and from the language used in the verse above (quoted from many translations) the fullness of the gentiles coming in is still a future event. Not only does the context suggest this, some translations even say full number of gentiles. So it would be hard to say that it means anything other then what the plain and simple text indicates.

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G4138
πλήρωμα
plērōma
play'-ro-mah
From G4137; repletion or completion, that is, (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period): - which is put in to fill up, piece that filled up, fulfilling, full, fulness.
I don’t see anything in the definition of fullness from Strong’s that indicates the word means anything more then the context suggest and that is it still is in our future and won’t occur until the last person to be saved on this earth is saved.

If it was about the church receiving the full blessings being poured out on it as many claim, wouldn’t that have occurred when Christ rebuilt the temple in 3 days? Or, maybe at the latest Pentecost? So why was Paul writing about it as a future event years after these events? Simple the fullness doesn’t come in until the last person on this earth that is going to be born again is born again, Obviously the fullness of the gentiles has not come in or there would no longer be gentiles coming to the Lord! So if we accept that we must also accept that some Jews in today’s world are still sovereignly blinded until the fullness of the gentiles comes in.

Can anyone who believes the fullness of the Gentiles came in during the first century give a Scripturally sound explanation proving that it occurred in the first century?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I think the text explains itself.

As long as their is a partial blindness to the nation of Isreal. the fullness of the gentiles has not yet come.. Does not get any clearer than this.

 

[doulos]

I think the text explains itself.

As long as their is a partial blindness to the nation of Isreal. the fullness of the gentiles has not yet come.. Does not get any clearer than this.

Or we could say so long as the fullness of the gentiles has not come in part of Irael will remain sovereignly blinded.

 

[zone]

Galatians 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.

Paul’s Concern for the Galatians
8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years! 11I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.

12Brothers,c I entreat you, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You did me no wrong. 13You know it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached the gospel to you at first, 14and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus. 15What then has become of the blessing you felt? For I testify to you that, if possible, you would have gouged out your eyes and given them to me. 16Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?d 17They make much of you, but for no good purpose. They want to shut you out, that you may make much of them. 18It is always good to be made much of for a good purpose, and not only when I am present with you, 19my little children, for whom I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you! 20I wish I could be present with you now and change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.

Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.




1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the mana Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. 7For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.



Titus 1
1Paul, a servanta of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness, 2in hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began 3and at the proper time manifested in his word through the preaching with which I have been entrusted by the command of God our Savior



Colossians 1
24Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, 25of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.



Romans 16
25Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages 26but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith— 27to the only wise God be glory forevermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.



Ephesians 1
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5he predestined usb for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guaranteed of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,e to the praise of his glory.



Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Gospel Revealed
1For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

7Of this gospel I was made a minister according to the gift of God’s grace, which was given me by the working of his power. 8To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages inb God who created all things, 10so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. 11This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, 12in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through our faith in him. 13So I ask you not to lose heart over what I am suffering for you, which is your glory.


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Romans 11:31
so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^c 57AD ^^^^^^

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Or we could say so long as the fullness of the gentiles has not come in part of Irael will remain sovereignly blinded.

yes we could.

One also has to separate this from the fullness of time spoken of by Paul in Galatians. The fullness of time he spoke of was the time of Christ. Not the time of the gentiles.

Not to mention.. This was said to be complete when Christ died.. and Paul spoke of a future reference..

 

[doulos]

Galatians 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.

Paul’s Concern for the Galatians
8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years! 11I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.

12Brothers,c I entreat you, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You did me no wrong. 13You know it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached the gospel to you at first, 14and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus. 15What then has become of the blessing you felt? For I testify to you that, if possible, you would have gouged out your eyes and given them to me. 16Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?d 17They make much of you, but for no good purpose. They want to shut you out, that you may make much of them. 18It is always good to be made much of for a good purpose, and not only when I am present with you, 19my little children, for whom I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you! 20I wish I could be present with you now and change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.

Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.




1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the mana Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. 7For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.



Titus 1
1Paul, a servanta of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness, 2in hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began 3and at the proper time manifested in his word through the preaching with which I have been entrusted by the command of God our Savior



Colossians 1
24Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, 25of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.



Romans 16
25Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages 26but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith— 27to the only wise God be glory forevermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.



Ephesians 1
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5he predestined usb for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guaranteed of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,e to the praise of his glory.


Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Gospel Revealed
1For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

7Of this gospel I was made a minister according to the gift of God’s grace, which was given me by the working of his power. 8To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages inb God who created all things, 10so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. 11This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, 12in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through our faith in him. 13So I ask you not to lose heart over what I am suffering for you, which is your glory.


Romans 11:31
so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy.

^^^^^^^^^c 57AD ^^^^^^^^^^

ROFLMHO so the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord by 57AD Nothing in your post suggest the fullness of the gentiles maens anything different then the full number of gentiles that will come to the Lord. So are you suggesting the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord in 57AD "PURLEEZE"

 

[zone]

ROFLMHO so the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord by 57AD Nothing in your post suggest the fullness of the gentiles occurred in 57AD "PURLEEZE"

THERES NO `FULL NUMBER`

FULLNESS MEANS FATNESS....FILLING UP.....LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL

 

[zone]

ROFLMHO so the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord by 57AD Nothing in your post suggest the fullness of the gentiles occurred in 57AD "PURLEEZE"

according to your crackerjack theory, the fullness of everybody ended in 1948 and we are now in LIMBO PROPHETIC TIME because real time has ended.

RIGHT ELLIS

tell us how real time ended after the 7th trump which has already sounded.

 

[Abiding]

Make note: "Number" keeps being inserted into the text.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Make note: "Number" keeps being inserted into the text.

if number is inserted to try to insinuate the number of gentiles saved.. then it is a misinterpretation. I agree.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

ROFLMHO so the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord by 57AD Nothing in your post suggest the fullness of the gentiles maens anything different then the full number of gentiles that will come to the Lord. So are you suggesting the full number of Gentiles came to the Lord in 57AD "PURLEEZE"

full number? the text does not say this. it says the fullness of the gentiles..it does not infer the number of people saved in any age.

 

[doulos]

THERES NO `FULL NUMBER`

FULLNESS MEANS FATNESS....FILLING UP.....LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL

Fullness of the gentiles means full number of the gentiles, as the following quotes from a couple translations say.
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

Is the full number of gentiles fatness or filling up?
Was the church fat enough or filled enough by57AD or did it continue to grow and get fatter and fuller as time went on?

If it was just having the blessings poured out on the church then as my original post said why wouldn't that have happened when Christ rebuilt the temple in 3 days or at pentecost at the latest? Why would Paul be writing about it as a future event some 20+ years after the blessings were given to the church? No 57AD does not work!

 

[zone]

THERES NO `FULL NUMBER`

FULLNESS MEANS FATNESS....FILLING UP.....LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL

7 year old Johnny at Sunday School:

Teacher,

the fullness of the gentiles coming in isn't about gentiles or jews is it Teacher?

it isn't about number's or Daniel's 70th week being 7 million years long, is it?

it's about all being shut up under THE LAW until Jesus came, isn't it Teacher.

it's about the Mystery of the Gospel of Christ, isn't it Teacher.

about how God's Eternal Purpose was to save people from every nation by Grace Through Faith in the Finished Work of Jesus Christ on the Cross in Israel at His First Coming, isn't it Teacher?

it's about how it was HIDDEN that the CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH would be the way in which GOD revealed His Wisdom to Principalities and Powers in saving FALLEN MEN (jews and gentiles), isn't it Teacher?

it's about JESUS, isn't it Teacher?





Teacher:

that's right 7 year old Johnny.

 

[doulos]

Make note: "Number" keeps being inserted into the text.

So all these diffferent translations have it worng but abiding has it right?
Rom 11:25 My friends, I don't want you Gentiles to be too proud of yourselves. So I will explain the mystery of what has happened to the people of Israel. Some of them have become stubborn, and they will stay like that until the complete number of you Gentiles has come in. - CEV
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

I'll stick with what Scripture actually states.

 

[doulos]

full number? the text does not say this. it says the fullness of the gentiles..it does not infer the number of people saved in any age.

So you disagree with what Scripture actually says? Interesting!
Rom 11:25 My friends, I don't want you Gentiles to be too proud of yourselves. So I will explain the mystery of what has happened to the people of Israel. Some of them have become stubborn, and they will stay like that until the complete number of you Gentiles has come in. - CEV
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

I'll stick with what Scripture actually states.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Fullness of the gentiles means full number of the gentiles, as the following quotes from a couple translations say.
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

Is the full number of gentiles fatness or filling up?
Was the church fat enough or filled enough by57AD or did it continue to grow and get fatter and fuller as time went on?

If it was just having the blessings poured out on the church then as my original post said why wouldn't that have happened when Christ rebuilt the temple in 3 days or at pentecost at the latest? Why would Paul be writing about it as a future event some 20+ years after the blessings were given to the church? No 57AD does not work!

That is one interpretation.

Another is completeness. Or fulfilled. there are a few interpretation which would fit.

 

[doulos]

7 year old Johnny at Sunday School:

Teacher,

the fullness of the gentiles coming in isn't about gentiles or jews is it Teacher?

it isn't about number's or Daniel's 70th week being 7 million years long, is it?

it's about all being shut up under THE LAW until Jesus came, isn't it Teacher.

it's about the Mystery of the Gospel of Christ, isn't it Teacher.

about how God's Eternal Purpose was to save people from every nation by Grace Through Faith in the Finished Work of Jesus Christ on the Cross in Israel at His First Coming, isn't it Teacher?

it's about how it was HIDDEN that the CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH CHURCH would be the way in which GOD revealed His Wisdom to Principalities and Powers in saving FALLEN MEN (jews and gentiles), isn't it Teacher?

it's about JESUS, isn't it Teacher?





Teacher:

that's right 7 year old Johnny.

irrelevant and off topic just more of Zone's sophmoric tactics designed to obfuscate rather then actually deal with the issue. Carry on Zone yoursophmoric actions only serve to display your true colors.

 

[doulos]

That is one interpretation.

Another is completeness. Or fulfilled. there are a few interpretation which would fit.

I see no reason to believe the translaters of those three translations are in error and that the text does not mean exactly what it says.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So you disagree with what Scripture actually says? Interesting!
Rom 11:25 My friends, I don't want you Gentiles to be too proud of yourselves. So I will explain the mystery of what has happened to the people of Israel. Some of them have become stubborn, and they will stay like that until the complete number of you Gentiles has come in. - CEV
Rom11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, - NIV
Rom11:25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, - RSV

I'll stick with what Scripture actually states.

Then stick with what scripture actually says, and not those perverted interpretations.

The literal greek says fullness (Pleroma) Ethnos (nations) happen (ginome)

pleroma - fulfilment, completion, Fullness, fill up, make full, full number (as you can see only ONE of all the translations means number)

 

[Ariel82]

that is a translation of the verse. if you want to stick with what scripture actually states you would learn Greek.....Romans 11:25 Greek Texts and Analysis ...you see even you posted the Strong and it does not list FULL NUMBER but Fullness.....

Rom 11:25 ForG1063 I wouldG2309 not,G3756 brethren,G80 that yeG5209 should be ignorantG50 of thisG5124 mystery,G3466 lestG3363 ye should beG5600 wiseG5429 inG3844 your own conceits;G1438 thatG3754 blindnessG4457 inG575 partG3313 is happenedG1096 to Israel,G2474 untilG891 G3757 theG3588 fulnessG4138 of theG3588 GentilesG1484 be come in.G152
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G4138
πλήρωμα
plērōma
play'-ro-mah
From G4137; repletion or completion, that is, (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period): - which is put in to fill up, piece that filled up, fulfilling, full, fullness.

//.... grr formatting errors.....

πλήρωμα (plērōma) — 12 Occurrences
Matthew 9:16 N-NNS
BIB: γὰρ τὸ πλήρωμα αὐτοῦ ἀπὸ
NAS: garment; for the patch pulls away
KJV: for that which is put in to fill it up taketh
INT: indeed the patch of it from
Mark 2:21 N-NNS
BIB: αἴρει τὸ πλήρωμα ἀπ' αὐτοῦ
NAS: otherwise the patch pulls away
KJV: the new piece that filled it up taketh away
INT: tears away the filling up [piece] hereafter of it
Romans 11:12 N-NNS
BIB: μᾶλλον τὸ πλήρωμα αὐτῶν
NAS: more will their fulfillment be!
KJV: much more their fulness?
INT: more the fulfillment of them
Romans 11:25 N-NNS
BIB: οὗ τὸ πλήρωμα τῶν ἐθνῶν
NAS: until the fullness of the Gentiles
KJV: until the fulness of the Gentiles
INT: that the fullness of the Gentiles
Romans 13:10 N-NNS
BIB: οὐκ ἐργάζεται πλήρωμα οὖν νόμου
NAS: love is the fulfillment of [the] law.
KJV: love [is] the fulfilling of the law.
INT: not does work [the] fulfillment therefore of [the] law
1 Corinthians 10:26 N-NNS
BIB: καὶ τὸ πλήρωμα αὐτῆς
NAS: IS THE LORD'S, AND ALL IT CONTAINS.
KJV: and the fulness thereof.
INT: and the fullness of it
1 Corinthians 10:28 Noun-NNS
BIB: καὶ τὸ πλήρωμα αὐτῆς
KJV: and the fulness thereof:
INT: and the fullness of it
Galatians 4:4 N-NNS
BIB: ἦλθεν τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ χρόνου
NAS: But when the fullness of the time
KJV: when the fulness of the time
INT: came the fullness of the time
Ephesians 1:23 N-NNS
BIB: αὐτοῦ τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ τὰ
NAS: is His body, the fullness of Him who fills
KJV: body, the fulness of him that filleth
INT: of him the fullness of him who
Ephesians 3:19 N-ANS
BIB: πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ θεοῦ
NAS: up to all the fullness of God.
KJV: with all the fulness of God.
INT: all the fullness of God
Colossians 1:19 N-NNS
BIB: πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα κατοικῆσαι
NAS: for all the fullness to dwell
KJV: should all fulness dwell;
INT: all the fullness to dwellColossians 2:9 N-NNS
BIB: πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος
NAS: For in Him all the fullness of Deity
KJV: all the fullness of the Godhead
INT: all the fullness of the Deity

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[TD="class: translit"]plērōma
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