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I worked at Chick-Fil-A about 8 years ago and they would let you have one free meal while on the job. I usually had mornings so I got breakfast! 
Yummy!
I don't know if things have changed since then. I doubt it as Chick-Fil-A is awesome. That's so lame of Burger King. Maybe not all of them are like that.
Yummy!I don't know if things have changed since then. I doubt it as Chick-Fil-A is awesome. That's so lame of Burger King. Maybe not all of them are like that.
I think it's really nice of companies/corporations to give to their employees is what we call a perk in this area. Having a burger and maybe some fries too while you take your lunch would be a nice perk. I wonder though on the other side of this how many employees took advantage of this and were taking home food for them and their families daily. It only takes one to ruin it for all. Regarding the pay, as it was for me with my first job... was low pay in the fast food industry. In my opinion though, I don't feel that a fast food restaurant...unless you plan on being the manager where they do make decent money, is a career but yet a stepping stone possibly while people go to college to advance in the field they choose. Education is important. I hope all that posted have either had the opportunity to go to college, are currently going to college, or plan on it.
I've learned that after college it is difficult to find a job within your field today. I continue to feel that education is important and that most will need/ use it eventually to find a job within your field, or maybe even outside of your field. A college graduate becomes all around knowledgeable and not in just the field of work you choose. The awesome part of it all is that no one can take your knowledge from you. You may even use something you learned in your everyday walk.
Education is important. I hope all that posted have either had the opportunity to go to college, are currently going to college, or plan on it. I've learned that after college it is difficult to find a job within your field today. I continue to feel that education is important and that most will need/ use it eventually to find a job within your field, or maybe even outside of your field. A college graduate becomes all around knowledgeable and not in just the field of work you choose. The awesome part of it all is that no one can take your knowledge from you. You may even use something you learned in your everyday walk.
THIS really goes to the heart of Employee pilfering, or, more properly, "grazing" while working. I have never met a Shift Leader/Manager or Owner who would refuse something to eat to an Employee IF THEY WOULD JUST ASK!
The old adage "it's better to ask forgiveness than ask permission" has kept the Unemployment lines at a steady level for quite some time. It sounds good when Leroy Jethro Gibbs says it, but not so good in the REAL WORLD.
As to the pay.............whatever the Industry agrees to is fine with me. What people can't seem to understand is that these jobs WERE NEVER intended to be Careers! They were "Entry Level" jobs so that young workers just entering the work force could gain experience and THEN MOVE on to better paying and more rewarding Employment.
People looking to make a Career flipping Burgers or some such, should be more interested in the Management Opportunities that the Industry offers........NOT trying to spend their lives............"Welcome to Burger King, may I take your order please?"
The old adage "it's better to ask forgiveness than ask permission" has kept the Unemployment lines at a steady level for quite some time. It sounds good when Leroy Jethro Gibbs says it, but not so good in the REAL WORLD.
As to the pay.............whatever the Industry agrees to is fine with me. What people can't seem to understand is that these jobs WERE NEVER intended to be Careers! They were "Entry Level" jobs so that young workers just entering the work force could gain experience and THEN MOVE on to better paying and more rewarding Employment.
People looking to make a Career flipping Burgers or some such, should be more interested in the Management Opportunities that the Industry offers........NOT trying to spend their lives............"Welcome to Burger King, may I take your order please?"
Thou shalt not steal ~ Exodus 20:15
Like some of you on this thread, I also did some kitchen work in my time. Did not have to worry about "free food" as all I had to do was "ask and ye shall receive". Got quite a few freebies that way.
Like some of you on this thread, I also did some kitchen work in my time. Did not have to worry about "free food" as all I had to do was "ask and ye shall receive". Got quite a few freebies that way.
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And by 'never a problem' you mean that you had personal, first hand knowledge of at a level above industry store level, info to verify that? Or you just assume that because when you were flipping burgers no high level employees came in to show any facts?
Bottom line is you Still don't know, factually, that it is greed and it is Still assumption on your part. Paint it however you want, you have no proof.
And how much time should a company spend pulling employees aside to tell them to take less stuff they didn't pay for? Seems to be a waste of time and money. And people these days are increasingly selfish and feel they are owed something for nothing, so the frequency of misuse is likely to have increased.
And you said yourself there was no 'official' policy allowing employees to take food as they will to, which means the management allowing it were breaking company rules and condoning theft. And that BK finally caught up to these dishonest people and put a stop to behaviour they never condoned to begin with.
What? You mean they had the same policy every other business paying minimum wage has? No taking company merchandise for free because that's theft?
The idea that minimum wage paying companies 'owe it' to their employees to let them take free things to compensate for their low pay is just the roots of millenialism. Something for nothing.
Bottom line is you Still don't know, factually, that it is greed and it is Still assumption on your part. Paint it however you want, you have no proof.
And how much time should a company spend pulling employees aside to tell them to take less stuff they didn't pay for? Seems to be a waste of time and money. And people these days are increasingly selfish and feel they are owed something for nothing, so the frequency of misuse is likely to have increased.
And you said yourself there was no 'official' policy allowing employees to take food as they will to, which means the management allowing it were breaking company rules and condoning theft. And that BK finally caught up to these dishonest people and put a stop to behaviour they never condoned to begin with.
What? You mean they had the same policy every other business paying minimum wage has? No taking company merchandise for free because that's theft?
The idea that minimum wage paying companies 'owe it' to their employees to let them take free things to compensate for their low pay is just the roots of millenialism. Something for nothing.
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it means that most all the people got a free meal and the owners were ok with it because they knew they were payed such a low wage. do i have signed statements from the owners, no, i just have common sense.
it is greed on the owners. how many billion do they send to DC lobbying against the min wage, compare that to what the employees send. you think thats fair?
good example of the problem. like i said b4, there was a time when an employer had no shame working side by side with workers, leading by example. now they dont time to be out there with the filthy peasants
you seriously gonna say eating food is stealing? when Jesus and the 12 took grain from that field it made them common thieves.
so how should we punish them, prison, 3rd time life in prison? for taking food? why they do it, they were hungry, why hungry, not enough money for food, because their greedy employer keeps all the money for himself.
not every company has the cheap slave labor. some actually pay them above the minimum.
they can be a good employer or a greedy employer, and you are correct they dont owe them anything, the law is on their side. kinda like 150 years back when slavery was legal, you had good owners and bad. the bad ones had ever right to beat, whip, rape and treat the slaves like animals, it was their legal right. they didnt owe them anything, thats the way the world was then, making fortunes off slave labor. there were those that thought this culture / example was wrong, but they were such a small minority few listened to them.
it is greed on the owners. how many billion do they send to DC lobbying against the min wage, compare that to what the employees send. you think thats fair?
good example of the problem. like i said b4, there was a time when an employer had no shame working side by side with workers, leading by example. now they dont time to be out there with the filthy peasants
you seriously gonna say eating food is stealing? when Jesus and the 12 took grain from that field it made them common thieves.
so how should we punish them, prison, 3rd time life in prison? for taking food? why they do it, they were hungry, why hungry, not enough money for food, because their greedy employer keeps all the money for himself.
not every company has the cheap slave labor. some actually pay them above the minimum.
they can be a good employer or a greedy employer, and you are correct they dont owe them anything, the law is on their side. kinda like 150 years back when slavery was legal, you had good owners and bad. the bad ones had ever right to beat, whip, rape and treat the slaves like animals, it was their legal right. they didnt owe them anything, thats the way the world was then, making fortunes off slave labor. there were those that thought this culture / example was wrong, but they were such a small minority few listened to them.
A little off topic but . . .
A friend of mine used to be a manager at the McDonalds in Somerset, PA. At the time it was the second most profitable franchise per capita in the entire eastern seaboard, yet every week the suits would stop by and scream they weren't performing well enough and the managers were always threatened with termination. Go figure.
A friend of mine used to be a manager at the McDonalds in Somerset, PA. At the time it was the second most profitable franchise per capita in the entire eastern seaboard, yet every week the suits would stop by and scream they weren't performing well enough and the managers were always threatened with termination. Go figure.
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i worked at overhead door in my early 20s. the highest payed tech was the biggest thief. stole about 10 - 20 gal of fuel a week, steel and other build material. built a shop, gate and who knows what else all with stolen material. he was also a pervert and cheated on his wife. me and my friend mike were the biggest money makers there and the thief made more money than we did, a lot more, but we never stole and i dont think anyone else did.
always gonna be bad apples. punishing everyone for the actions of one person is not the answer in my opinion.
always gonna be bad apples. punishing everyone for the actions of one person is not the answer in my opinion.
A couple of things I want to answer:
good example of the problem. like i said b4, there was a time when an employer had no shame working side by side with workers, leading by example. now they dont time to be out there with the filthy peasants
This statement reeks of personal bias, and is not based on facts. I can leave my home right now and within a 10 minute drive find 8 or 10 Eateries where the Manager/Asst. Managers, and even Owners are working side by side with their Employees. As well, I know of two where the Owners are also the Cooks, Dishwashers, and clean tables, toilets and floors.
Even if you are only speaking of the Major Stores.....Burger King, Mickey D's, whatever, the Managers, Asst. Managers routinely work side by side with the hourly Employees.
you seriously gonna say eating food is stealing? when Jesus and the 12 took grain from that field it made them common thieves.
You seriously going to say that it is far too much to expect an Employee TO ASK prior to grazing? Your comparison, BTW, is weak...........due to the Mosaic Laws about such, "the corners of the fields........"
so how should we punish them, prison, 3rd time life in prison? for taking food? why they do it, they were hungry, why hungry, not enough money for food, because their greedy employer keeps all the money for himself.
Again, pure personal bias........and a "broad brush" derogatory statement condemning people you have never met or know anything of. As for "pay." Perhaps people here do not know that the Hourly Employee is assured a certain amount of pay for each hour they work. And, while it may seem like far more, the Salary personnel quite often earn far less per hour worked than the Hourly Employee. The Salary personnel quite often work 50, 60 hours a week or more, and when one does the math, their salary (when reduced to an hourly wage) is less than what the Hourly people are receiving. In every case? No. But in the instances where this is not true, one has to also remember those Salary personnel worked long hours, and put in great effort TO EARN what they are being paid.
And every Hourly Employee has the opportunity to work hard, be a Team Player, gain experience, and seek advancements.........Shift Mgrs., Asst. Mgr.. Manager..........and, possibly one day, own their very own Store.
Yes, technically, "grazing" is stealing. However, your "punishment" offerings are just silly. Usually, a verbal warning is the first step. And this is ONLY when the "grazing" exceeds what is acceptable to the Manager/Owner of the Store. Second step would be Written Warning, and possibly, the third step would be Dismissal.
Any Manager/Owner knows that they MUST DOCUMENT wrong doings by an Employee PRIOR to the third step being taken. Otherwise, they could face problems with the Local Labor Board.
good example of the problem. like i said b4, there was a time when an employer had no shame working side by side with workers, leading by example. now they dont time to be out there with the filthy peasants
This statement reeks of personal bias, and is not based on facts. I can leave my home right now and within a 10 minute drive find 8 or 10 Eateries where the Manager/Asst. Managers, and even Owners are working side by side with their Employees. As well, I know of two where the Owners are also the Cooks, Dishwashers, and clean tables, toilets and floors.
Even if you are only speaking of the Major Stores.....Burger King, Mickey D's, whatever, the Managers, Asst. Managers routinely work side by side with the hourly Employees.
you seriously gonna say eating food is stealing? when Jesus and the 12 took grain from that field it made them common thieves.
You seriously going to say that it is far too much to expect an Employee TO ASK prior to grazing? Your comparison, BTW, is weak...........due to the Mosaic Laws about such, "the corners of the fields........"
so how should we punish them, prison, 3rd time life in prison? for taking food? why they do it, they were hungry, why hungry, not enough money for food, because their greedy employer keeps all the money for himself.
Again, pure personal bias........and a "broad brush" derogatory statement condemning people you have never met or know anything of. As for "pay." Perhaps people here do not know that the Hourly Employee is assured a certain amount of pay for each hour they work. And, while it may seem like far more, the Salary personnel quite often earn far less per hour worked than the Hourly Employee. The Salary personnel quite often work 50, 60 hours a week or more, and when one does the math, their salary (when reduced to an hourly wage) is less than what the Hourly people are receiving. In every case? No. But in the instances where this is not true, one has to also remember those Salary personnel worked long hours, and put in great effort TO EARN what they are being paid.
And every Hourly Employee has the opportunity to work hard, be a Team Player, gain experience, and seek advancements.........Shift Mgrs., Asst. Mgr.. Manager..........and, possibly one day, own their very own Store.
Yes, technically, "grazing" is stealing. However, your "punishment" offerings are just silly. Usually, a verbal warning is the first step. And this is ONLY when the "grazing" exceeds what is acceptable to the Manager/Owner of the Store. Second step would be Written Warning, and possibly, the third step would be Dismissal.
Any Manager/Owner knows that they MUST DOCUMENT wrong doings by an Employee PRIOR to the third step being taken. Otherwise, they could face problems with the Local Labor Board.
J
not bias just a common sense observation. the rich get richer and poor poorer, the gap becomes greater and the masses have to work harder every year.
you are correct as there are lots of good owners that work side by side with their employees, some even treat them like family, but IMO these good examples are fewer each year.
silly punishments? people really have been put in prison for stealing food when they were starving. ever see the movie les miserables, they really did that back then. whats the bigger crime, stealing food for your family or starving a family to death.
Brazil is a top 5 global agriculture producer, it also has a top 5 starvation rate. how does that work? what about Ireland in the 1800s, the famine, where did all the food go?
read about how these things work and you will see a different picture of how it applies to today.
you are correct as there are lots of good owners that work side by side with their employees, some even treat them like family, but IMO these good examples are fewer each year.
silly punishments? people really have been put in prison for stealing food when they were starving. ever see the movie les miserables, they really did that back then. whats the bigger crime, stealing food for your family or starving a family to death.
Brazil is a top 5 global agriculture producer, it also has a top 5 starvation rate. how does that work? what about Ireland in the 1800s, the famine, where did all the food go?
read about how these things work and you will see a different picture of how it applies to today.
The point being made was that food establishments used to allow employees to freely eat of what was available during work hours, at least on lunch breaks etc., whereas now BK (as per OP) does not allow anyone to eat anything... actually the OP said you are not allowed to take food, which does seem to imply that people were removing food from the premises. That seems a different issue altogether, also known as stealing. I can see why any establishment would have a problem with such, as opposed to people eating the food while on their breaks, if allowed by said establishment
J
I could not find a pic of a Jaybird eating cantaloupes
When I worked in restaurants and food places (KFC and Mary Brown) we were allowed to eat whatever was available while on our breaks In the restaurant, that meant I could make my own lunch, like an omelet that was not even on the menu LOL
When I worked in restaurants and food places (KFC and Mary Brown) we were allowed to eat whatever was available while on our breaks
In the restaurant, that meant I could make my own lunch, like an omelet that was not even on the menu LOL