I am confused about something

I have a question to all the Christians here. Now let me be the first to admit, I do not understand all the rules and what not of Christianity, I am not perfect and do not know much of what the bible says. That being said I have a question. In Christianity, homosexuality is a sin. So is say...masturbation or lying. (not 100% on that, I just think judging from what I have learned) So why do some Christians refuse to have anything to do with homosexuals that could be regular human beings that aren't breaking the law or what not, yet would be fine with being friends with someone who masturbates or lies. A reason I can come up with is maybe because masturbating and lying are far more common sins than being homosexual, but isn't a sin still a sin? I am just a little confused on that and hope someone could lead me in the right direction. Thank you.

I'm confused about this too. Not all Christians are like that, though. I think the majority of Christians wouldn't just cast them aside entirely for being gay. But they just feel cast aside because they don't realize that the Christians are separating the sin from the person. Gay people that have had to learn how to "accept who they are" for a long time might feel personally rejected if a religious person tells them that it is a sin to "be gay". To them, that sounds pretty much like they've just been told it's a sin for them to exist. In a lot of cases (not all) it's probably a big miscommunication.

ah I see what you are saying. Thanks!

You see the way I see it I don't have a problem with the gays, heck some of my old friends are gay. But we all sin and not one of us is perfect. Who am i to tell them they are living a life of sin? it's not my place nor is it right for me to think so. rebuking a gay is like rebuking ourselves because we aren't any cleaner than them because while we are washed by the blood of Jesus we still sin.

Besides jesus would have embraced them and if anyone here on cc tries being mean to the gays on here they can deal with me.

It's probably because MOST people masturbate and EVERYBODY lies at least sometimes. However, it's easier to separate gays from "normal people" because a lot of people simply don't know any homosexuals. When something's more normalized it's easier to forget, but when something's unusual it's easy to gang up against.

God loves all people the same including the gays, if he wants them to change he will place it on their hearts somehow. But i do not accept people being judgmental to anyone who is different, well i mean we all secretly do this without meaning to but i mean on the degree a lot of people go to.

Especailly If we christians- who are to be the one people they can come to for help, are the ones doing the bashings.
If i see any ppl doing this here in cc they are getting a pm from me, don't worry i won't speak out of anger but i will not tolerate it

I kind of look at people with different sins than me as how as a health nerd I look at smokers.

I'll befriend a smoker the same as everyone else and tell them tips on how to eat healthy when they ask, but when they are blowing the smoke, I have to hold my breath and leave.

My opinion is, at least part of the reason, is the homosexuals themselves. Homosexuals set anyone who is not a direct supporter and enemy and a homophobe. You are not allowed to simply disagree respectfully unless you're a hatemonger. You can't go around setting everyone up as a hateful, fearful enemy just because they take a different point of view, then expect those same people to accept you. They're shooting themselves in the foot.

Also, some people just like to find any excuse to hate someone else.

I'm not sure this whole premise really works as a question... the thing about being friends with one kind of sinner instead of another.

I mean... I hardly ever hang out with a friend at church, and then just casually turn to him and say, "Oh, by the way, do you lie, masturbate, or sleep with other dudes?"


Those things just never really seem to come up.

Hate the sin, not the sinner...

"Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum" St. Augustine. Which kinda translates more so into "With love for mankind and hatred of sins".

As a christian I am taught through the bible to hang around more Christ-like people. You are who your friends are sort of ordeal. Which in all actuality is true. By keeping "sinful" company around you majority of the time, you are more tempted to sin then someone who doesn't hang around sinful people. I am not saying homosexuality is a disease that can be spread like the flu, but if you hang around people who lie without any remorse. Chances are you will become of the same way.

Christ never held one person over another because of their past choices, however he did surround himself with the most Christ-like people.




Note: I do not speak for Christianity as a whole, I have only been reading the bible for 2 months

But the question is do have the same standards towards lying and masturbation as you do towards homosexuality?

Hanging out with gay people doesn't turn a straight person gay. That whole idea is absurd to me.

And you'd think if that worked straight people would WANT to hang out with tons of gay people. If being around gays turns you gay, the opposite must be true, right? However, for some reason you never really seem to see that...

Yeah that was kinda my point. Sexual preference isn't contagious.

Lets look at it from God's point of view. Some say that you can't go to the OT for that, but I find a lot of God principles there. God sees all sin as simply sin, but there is also a value system He applies. I am looking at the people He tells of who insisted on using a golden calf in their worship to represent Him. God says that is a sin, but God didn't punish those people as severely as he did those who said their carvings were gods. It shows God does use a value system to our sinning.

So, lets look at homosexuals. That is basic. It is part of the first chapters of Genesis when God created woman from man as a helpmate. He created sex and man and woman became one. He wrote the whole book of Song of Solomon that shows the spiritual meaning of this. When woman and woman or men and men try to duplicate this in an unnatural way, different from how they were created, it is truly major. People with the Holy Spirit know this, not from what they think, but from the Spirit. These people are hard for them. It is only the truly mature in God who can see past that sin to the person God created.

Their choice of who to associate with is not based in Christ (or Christianity). It is based in judgement and fear.

that is very true,but it does send the wrong messege.

What message is that? (I'm not being rude, just trying to make sense of other peoples opinions.)

Hi Relena7
when i said the wrong messege,i mean you don't want people to think you are gay or that you approve of that lifestyle.

1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.