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troubledgirl said:
Can I ask you that are you really hearing the Holy Spirit tell you that you have to tell this to me?

If the pastor can exorcise objects, is that enough? I heard of possessed dolls being exorcised.

And to the questions:

1) I don't watch TV but I watch the movies and shows from the computer. And I actually rarely watch the movies and shows, it's like only 1 time a week or 1 time in 2 weeks, but every month though, but not everyday or everyweek.
2) I pray when I feel like it, not everyday or everyweek, but often, and I read the Bible often but not everyday or everyweek, and I read it like normal, just to feed my spirit and soul and also to know what Jesus did, and the only things I can remember are the biggest things, as what Jesus did or said, and big events like the creation, Noah's Ark, escapes from bad things like from Egypt?, etc. but not small things like some random person getting a bread...
3)I listen to music everyday, but everybody listens to music everyday. I listen to it to match with the mood. If I feel like dancing, I listen to dancing music, if I feel sad and/or depressed, I listen to sad music, if I feel happy, I listen to happy music, if a song is played on my mind, I will listen to it again, and so on. But I swear that this is not about music idolatry. Music is not the most important to me.
4)Everyday on the computer and the whole day, but I do go outside everyday, and on the computer I read the Bible. And sometimes I listen to Christian music too.
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troubledgirl, ok that is all good. None of this is about MUSIC idolatry. I know music is'nt the most important thing to you. You are saying that God is, and that's great. That's how it should be!! BUT, as long as the HP stuff means more to you than God does, then that is wrong. You are refusing to be rid of it once and for all, even though it represents a bad time in your life when you were demonically attacked!! Therefore, you are putting more value on it than you should be, and it is a HUGE stumbling block for your walk with God, as Tintin stated in one of his replies.


NOTHING should have higher value to you than God!! Not books, or movies, or memorabilia. I'm not saying stop watching all movies, but just use common sense--if you hear or see something inappropriate, then find something else to watch. The same for music. If the lyrics are inappropriate, then listen to a different song. You stated in your other thread that you are now finding inappropriate humor to not be so funny anymore, and that is good!!

Now if you can only come to the same conclusion about the HP stuff!! It represents an evil time in your life, in which you suffered demonic attacks, and you need to be rid of it ALL. It truly worries me that you seem so reluctant to give it up, and are frantically trying to find an excuse to keep it. I promise you, once it is gone, you WILL feel so much better!! AND you really wont miss it all that much once it's gone. Focus on other things, POSITIVE things, like getting closer to God again. This is not a game, it's not debatable. By holding onto the HP stuff, you are holding onto Satan himself!! Be rid of his demonic energy once and for all! Get all things pertaining to HP and put them in a box or something and bury them like you said you would.
 
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I will just ask a pastor to exorcise the HP books... I really don't want to throw away them. Throwing them away is like killing a cat just because the cat bit a person.
 
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Is it a sin for a woman to look at a picture of a handsome man without a shirt on?
 
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I will just ask a pastor to exorcise the HP books... I really don't want to throw away them. Throwing them away is like killing a cat just because the cat bit a person.
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troubledgirl, no lol, it is not just like killing a cat because the cat bit a person. If the cat was rabid, then YES, you would have to kill it. Think of the HP stuff as being rabid, which basically it is, because it's infected with demonic energy. The longer you keep it, the worse off you're going to be. It's plain to see that the devil has a mighty strong grip on you right now because of your extreme reluctance to let something which is filled with demons, go out the door and away from you.
I can almost guarantee that the pastor will NOT excorcise this stuff. As I said before, they most commonly only exorcise people, not things. Your best option is to get rid of it, and quickly. Look at it as saving your soul, which you are because you will be free of that demonic energy. Until you stop putting ANY value on the HP stuff, you will have continual problems, not only with satan and demonic attacks, and bad dreams, but you will also experience problems in your journey with God.

​Prove to God, and yourself, once and for all, that HE alone is worth more to you than some cursed memorabilia!!!
 
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Is it a sin for a woman to look at a picture of a handsome man without a shirt on?
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In and of itself, no it is not. UNLESS you're looking at it while thinking lustful thoughts about that person, and/ or masturbating with that person in mind.
 
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And yes, 90% of the demonic experiences were actually some hallucinations from my medicine named Zeldox, and only 10% are actual demons. And when I threw away all the occult stuff and occult related stuff except Potter stuff, I could only sense about 5% of demons. /QUOTE]. What you just said above makes it sound like your "demons" are not actual fallen angels tormenting you, but instead "demons" from your own mind. And it seem like you already had some mental issue which is why you are given medicine for it. Pray to God to help you get through the struggles your dealing with right now and perhaps go to see some doctor and talk about your issues since I don't think your problem now is because of spiritual attacks but instead because of problems with the brain. Perhaps a change in your treatment could lessen the damage you are experiencing. Also try to reach out to other Christians for support in the real world and maybe try to find people with similar issues. And sorry for my quoting issue, I'm doing this on a phone :)
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troubledgirl, no lol, it is not just like killing a cat because the cat bit a person. If the cat was rabid, then YES, you would have to kill it. Think of the HP stuff as being rabid, which basically it is, because it's infected with demonic energy. The longer you keep it, the worse off you're going to be. It's plain to see that the devil has a mighty strong grip on you right now because of your extreme reluctance to let something which is filled with demons, go out the door and away from you.
I can almost guarantee that the pastor will NOT excorcise this stuff. As I said before, they most commonly only exorcise people, not things. Your best option is to get rid of it, and quickly. Look at it as saving your soul, which you are because you will be free of that demonic energy. Until you stop putting ANY value on the HP stuff, you will have continual problems, not only with satan and demonic attacks, and bad dreams, but you will also experience problems in your journey with God.

​Prove to God, and yourself, once and for all, that HE alone is worth more to you than some cursed memorabilia!!!
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Also, how do you even know my Harry Potter stuff are cursed? Because Harry Potter never lead me to witchcraft, it was science because I THOUGHT that witchcraft is scientific because of the stars and moon beliefs. But yes, I idolized Harry Potter, but on the other hand, during my occult times I didn't even know that God exists but in 2013 I started having God as the most important thing. I never thought like "I don't care if I lose God because Harry Potter is the best". Is God telling you that my Harry Potter stuff are cursed?

And as I also said, that 90% of the demonic experiences were only some medicine-induced hallucinations, and only 10% were actual demons, and nowdays I can only sense about 2-5% of demons... Sometimes I have days when I don't sense demons at all...
 
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Also, how do you even know my Harry Potter stuff are cursed? Because Harry Potter never lead me to witchcraft, it was science because I THOUGHT that witchcraft is scientific because of the stars and moon beliefs. But yes, I idolized Harry Potter, but on the other hand, during my occult times I didn't even know that God exists but in 2013 I started having God as the most important thing. I never thought like "I don't care if I lose God because Harry Potter is the best". Is God telling you that my Harry Potter stuff are cursed?

And as I also said, that 90% of the demonic experiences were only some medicine-induced hallucinations, and only 10% were actual demons, and nowdays I can only sense about 2-5% of demons... Sometimes I have days when I don't sense demons at all...
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troubledgirl, Even though I have explained this (AND other posters as well) to you time and again as to why your HP stuff is negative for you to hold on to.

1.) It is an object which was used to conjure up a character, which then conjured up demons!!! It does not matter how long ago that happened. It obviously is still something you value very much, because your extreme reluctance to let it go, even though it IS attracting the demons!!

2.) Witchcraft is very real!! You need to start separating fiction from reality here. You are living in a fantasy world filled with all sorts of weird things.

3.) You have not shown me, or any of the other posters, one shred of evidence that you revere God more than the Harry Potter stuff!! In every single post, you're proving that it's worth more to you than Jesus is. THAT is why some people keep calling you a troll. All I see are comments such as, "I'll watch what I want," and "You cant tell me what to do." The one constant question you keep asking is WHY?? You ask for OUR advice, yet when we offer it to you, you're defiant and rude and stubborn, determined to have YOUR way. I have news for you, honey, life NEVER goes OUR way. It goes GOD'S WAY!!

4.) Your medicine may play a small part in this, BUT since you WERE demonically attacked in the past, and are still being tormented, it's a safe guess to say the demons are still around you. If you can still sense ANY demons whatsoever, then that's irrefutable proof that they are around you. I dont need to ask God if that stuff is infected, or cursed, or whatever you choose to call it.

5.) The fact that you refuse to give up something that is demonically infused, AND represents a bad time in your life which is better left forgotten, speaks volumes to me, and I'm sure probably other posters as well, about where your priorities are right now!! It baffles me why you would want to hold onto ANYTHING demonic!!! You're deluding yourself if you think its okay to keep this stuff and put more worth and attention onto it than you should. The ONLY thing/person you should be putting worth onto is GOD!! Not demonically infused stuff which was used to conjure demons!!! As long as you hold onto the HP stuff, then God is NOT the most important thing to you, as you keep saying. If He were, you would have no problems getting rid of it.

 
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Slender man the thing that was created on a website for horror stories. He's fake and try not to feed on things that makes you scared. Fear is the opposite of faith.
 
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4.) tormented, it's a safe guess to say the demons are still around you. If you can still sense ANY demons whatsoever, then that's irrefutable proof that they are around you.
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Actually her "sensing" demons is not proof that they are around her. Sometimes people that are mentally ill, when they see things (especially scary/dark hallucinations) or hear voices, do think they are being tormented by demon(s) (especially if they are a christian or have been raised in a christian background), that does not necessarily mean they are, since that is their opinion, not fact (you have to remember also that her state of perception of the world is not the same as yours, and it is influenced by a mental illness). I don't think she has been demonically attacked (and her whole 90% percent are fake, 10% real, 2-5% she can feel, seems like odd percentages).

And her harry potter stuff is not being infused by demons.

I don't think it is very helpfully to keep saying in ways that demons have infested her life and have been attacking her when that is likely not even the case. She needs help, but not in the way you are presenting. Take the focus away from the whole "demon" thing. Believing (and people telling her such as you) that she is being tormented by Demons and somehow it is related to Harry Potter is not going to help a mindset of someone who is mentally disordered, it would make it worse. She already has a hard time because of her disorder in separating reality from fiction, so this talk of demons is sure will not improve her situation.
 
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troubledgirl, Even though I have explained this (AND other posters as well) to you time and again as to why your HP stuff is negative for you to hold on to.

1.) It is an object which was used to conjure up a character, which then conjured up demons!!! It does not matter how long ago that happened. It obviously is still something you value very much, because your extreme reluctance to let it go, even though it IS attracting the demons!!

2.) Witchcraft is very real!! You need to start separating fiction from reality here. You are living in a fantasy world filled with all sorts of weird things.

3.) You have not shown me, or any of the other posters, one shred of evidence that you revere God more than the Harry Potter stuff!! In every single post, you're proving that it's worth more to you than Jesus is. THAT is why some people keep calling you a troll. All I see are comments such as, "I'll watch what I want," and "You cant tell me what to do." The one constant question you keep asking is WHY?? You ask for OUR advice, yet when we offer it to you, you're defiant and rude and stubborn, determined to have YOUR way. I have news for you, honey, life NEVER goes OUR way. It goes GOD'S WAY!!

4.) Your medicine may play a small part in this, BUT since you WERE demonically attacked in the past, and are still being tormented, it's a safe guess to say the demons are still around you. If you can still sense ANY demons whatsoever, then that's irrefutable proof that they are around you. I dont need to ask God if that stuff is infected, or cursed, or whatever you choose to call it.

5.) The fact that you refuse to give up something that is demonically infused, AND represents a bad time in your life which is better left forgotten, speaks volumes to me, and I'm sure probably other posters as well, about where your priorities are right now!! It baffles me why you would want to hold onto ANYTHING demonic!!! You're deluding yourself if you think its okay to keep this stuff and put more worth and attention onto it than you should. The ONLY thing/person you should be putting worth onto is GOD!! Not demonically infused stuff which was used to conjure demons!!! As long as you hold onto the HP stuff, then God is NOT the most important thing to you, as you keep saying. If He were, you would have no problems getting rid of it.

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Lose the Harry Potter stuff. Splendaman, Spiderman and Superman have to got to go too. Oh, OK, you can keep Superman. No, there is no such thing as Kryptonite. That should lessen your anxiety somewhat.
 
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Hi all. I think I can add some insight to Polly (troubledgirl). On another forum we have reached out to Polly about the same issues she has been bringing up to you on this board. We have tried to help her on facebook as well. It has been at least 3 months since I've gotten involved in prayer and helping Polly. I agree with everything everyone is saying on this forum to her, but you will be basically falling for her games and silly questions. Polly claims to be saved and we can't argue that since we don't know if she is or not, that is between her and God. What I do know is what she claims and how she responds to Christians when they try to help her. Polly claims to suffer from demons attacking her, raping her and a number of other things. She has been told she needs to get rid of the Harry Potter stuff because she idolizes it. Her game is if she doesn't get the answer she wants she will resort to name calling and will tell you that you are a fundamentalist christian and that you don't hear anything from God. I am not here to cause strife, but I just want to warn you of her games and not to fall for her questions, which have been answered for her time and time again.

Polly, we all love you in Christ and want the best for you. If you want to be free from your demons and walk free in Christ then you need to start trusting Jesus and focus on the Word of God. Forget your worldly obsessions and trust what these good Christians are telling you.
 
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Hi all. I think I can add some insight to Polly (troubledgirl). On another forum we have reached out to Polly about the same issues she has been bringing up to you on this board. We have tried to help her on facebook as well. It has been at least 3 months since I've gotten involved in prayer and helping Polly. I agree with everything everyone is saying on this forum to her, but you will be basically falling for her games and silly questions. Polly claims to be saved and we can't argue that since we don't know if she is or not, that is between her and God. What I do know is what she claims and how she responds to Christians when they try to help her. Polly claims to suffer from demons attacking her, raping her and a number of other things. She has been told she needs to get rid of the Harry Potter stuff because she idolizes it. Her game is if she doesn't get the answer she wants she will resort to name calling and will tell you that you are a fundamentalist christian and that you don't hear anything from God. I am not here to cause strife, but I just want to warn you of her games and not to fall for her questions, which have been answered for her time and time again.

Polly, we all love you in Christ and want the best for you. If you want to be free from your demons and walk free in Christ then you need to start trusting Jesus and focus on the Word of God. Forget your worldly obsessions and trust what these good Christians are telling you.
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Thanks for the insight. I have encountered a number of people like this, they go from church to church causing division and strife with their issues and never come to a resolve because they don't hear what they want to hear. You can only hope that they come to their senses one day.
 
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Pray for wisdom, guidance, and the strength to endure. Don't be afraid, because it is God's will that you have eternal life. He loves you, and He will protect you if ask for it. While nothing itself is evil, what a person intends to do with those things are. Doing anything sinful numbs our spirit, it weakens our connection with God, and that makes it easier for the devil or his minions to mess with you. Just stick to God, and I assure you everything will be fine, Jesus will never leave you of forsake you, so don't be afraid.
 
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TroubledGirl, do you know why some people are calling you a troll? Your posts exhibit trollish behaviour. You say you have a problem, people give good, godly advice, you don't listen, you continue to whinge and complain. Rinse and repeat. Really, is there any freakin' point helping someone when they don't want help? No.
 
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Hi all. I think I can add some insight to Polly (troubledgirl). On another forum we have reached out to Polly about the same issues she has been bringing up to you on this board. We have tried to help her on facebook as well. It has been at least 3 months since I've gotten involved in prayer and helping Polly. I agree with everything everyone is saying on this forum to her, but you will be basically falling for her games and silly questions. Polly claims to be saved and we can't argue that since we don't know if she is or not, that is between her and God. What I do know is what she claims and how she responds to Christians when they try to help her. Polly claims to suffer from demons attacking her, raping her and a number of other things. She has been told she needs to get rid of the Harry Potter stuff because she idolizes it. Her game is if she doesn't get the answer she wants she will resort to name calling and will tell you that you are a fundamentalist christian and that you don't hear anything from God. I am not here to cause strife, but I just want to warn you of her games and not to fall for her questions, which have been answered for her time and time again.

Polly, we all love you in Christ and want the best for you. If you want to be free from your demons and walk free in Christ then you need to start trusting Jesus and focus on the Word of God. Forget your worldly obsessions and trust what these good Christians are telling you.
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Oh my goodness... You stalked me here? And no, I am not playing games as I am serious and honest. And guess what? I got way better advice here than in the other forum site. And yesterday I found a new Christian helper and he gave me better advice. :3
 
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Hi all. I think I can add some insight to Polly (troubledgirl). On another forum we have reached out to Polly about the same issues she has been bringing up to you on this board. We have tried to help her on facebook as well. It has been at least 3 months since I've gotten involved in prayer and helping Polly. I agree with everything everyone is saying on this forum to her, but you will be basically falling for her games and silly questions. Polly claims to be saved and we can't argue that since we don't know if she is or not, that is between her and God. What I do know is what she claims and how she responds to Christians when they try to help her. Polly claims to suffer from demons attacking her, raping her and a number of other things. She has been told she needs to get rid of the Harry Potter stuff because she idolizes it. Her game is if she doesn't get the answer she wants she will resort to name calling and will tell you that you are a fundamentalist christian and that you don't hear anything from God. I am not here to cause strife, but I just want to warn you of her games and not to fall for her questions, which have been answered for her time and time again.

Polly, we all love you in Christ and want the best for you. If you want to be free from your demons and walk free in Christ then you need to start trusting Jesus and focus on the Word of God. Forget your worldly obsessions and trust what these good Christians are telling you.
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CeileDe, thanks for the heads-up regarding this girl. She started a thread in new chat members forum stating that she had gotten kicked out of another christian site because she did not take advice from others when it was offered, and also because she was bashing fundamentalist christians. From now on, I am simply going to pray for her, instead of responding to any more of her posts. She knows her Harry Potter stuff was used in a satanic fashion to conjure up demons, and she refuses to get rid of it. Her medicine may be PART of the problem, but it's fairly obvious that the objects that she used to idolize, still have that demonic energy attached to them, and I'm tired (and I'm sure everyone else who tried to help her is also) of saying the same things to her time and again in a dozen different ways!!!

​Those of you who know me best on here, know that I don't usually give up on helping somebody, but this girl needs more help than we can give her!! Only God can help her now. Troubledgirl, Polly, I hope you start listening to God, for he is talking to you. It would benefit you greatly to listen to Him right now.
 
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CeileDe, thanks for the heads-up regarding this girl. She started a thread in new chat members forum stating that she had gotten kicked out of another christian site because she did not take advice from others when it was offered, and also because she was bashing fundamentalist christians. From now on, I am simply going to pray for her, instead of responding to any more of her posts. She knows her Harry Potter stuff was used in a satanic fashion to conjure up demons, and she refuses to get rid of it. Her medicine may be PART of the problem, but it's fairly obvious that the objects that she used to idolize, still have that demonic energy attached to them, and I'm tired (and I'm sure everyone else who tried to help her is also) of saying the same things to her time and again in a dozen different ways!!!

​Those of you who know me best on here, know that I don't usually give up on helping somebody, but this girl needs more help than we can give her!! Only God can help her now. Troubledgirl, Polly, I hope you start listening to God, for he is talking to you. It would benefit you greatly to listen to Him right now.
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Well, I got a better helper this time... And he is really Christian and he says that objects cannot get cursed like that. Besides, I don't idolize Harry Potter anymore and I am not lying and I am just packing the Harry Potter stuff in a box and I save that box in another place like basement or attic. Is there any verse where it says that an object gets infected with demons when a person idolizes something? I don't think so. And I didn't even use my Harry Potter objects to try to make Severus Snape real. I only tried to make him real but without any Harry Potter objects.
 
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I don't think your a troll troubledgirl. There is a difference between someone who intentionally starts a thread with the intention of causing trouble (no pun intended) just for kicks, and someone who starts a thread for help but has a hard time communicating/dealing with other people online when it comes to asking for advice for certain reasons (personality reasons, etc).

Here is what you can do to help to deal with your troubling experience.

Pray to God for help dealing with this problem of yours caused by your mental illness (which im sure is the source for your ills in this case, not actual fallen angels or harry potter).

Go to a doctor (perhaps one that is even Christian) in hopes of getting a better/improving your treatment (perhaps explain your excessive paranoia, having trouble differentiating between real and non-real, seeing things, etc)

Get support by fellow Christians in your life when it comes to dealing with your problems. It's always nice to have other people of faith helping you along the path (though if they constantly think your problem is demons, and keep trying to find ways to get the "demons" away from you this may not be the best option).

Maybe online, find a forum, or an area of the internet in which people with other similar mental disorders can get together and share advice and discuss their problems (im sure one exists somewhere). It's always nice for you to know that your not alone when it comes with dealing with these issues.

And I agree with the Christian you mentioned above. Like him, I don't think objects can become "cursed" :)
 
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I don't think your a troll troubledgirl. There is a difference between someone who intentionally starts a thread with the intention of causing trouble (no pun intended) just for kicks, and someone who starts a thread for help but has a hard time communicating/dealing with other people online when it comes to asking for advice for certain reasons (personality reasons, etc).

Here is what you can do to help to deal with your troubling experience.

Pray to God for help dealing with this problem of yours caused by your mental illness (which im sure is the source for your ills in this case, not actual fallen angels or harry potter).

Go to a doctor (perhaps one that is even Christian) in hopes of getting a better/improving your treatment (perhaps explain your excessive paranoia, having trouble differentiating between real and non-real, seeing things, etc)

Get support by fellow Christians in your life when it comes to dealing with your problems. It's always nice to have other people of faith helping you along the path (though if they constantly think your problem is demons, and keep trying to find ways to get the "demons" away from you this may not be the best option).

Maybe online, find a forum, or an area of the internet in which people with other similar mental disorders can get together and share advice and discuss their problems (im sure one exists somewhere). It's always nice for you to know that your not alone when it comes with dealing with these issues.

And I agree with the Christian you mentioned above. Like him, I don't think objects can become "cursed" :)
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I see. On the other hand, there have been recorded cases of cursed or possessed dolls, but I am not sure how did they become cursed or possessed. But I think that demons infecting objects is very rare.
 
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