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Yeah, the Blade one is long, but it's awesome. I think there's a shorter version, which would be better. Genesys and Slovack are the only two that are Christian. And Slovack's song is one of his only good ones. The rest get too pop club type. This is why i want to make my own, hard to find Christian versions of the good stuff.
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Ah. Good stuff. I'm listening to HB at the moment. Never heard of them before.
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Fair enough. I prefer female-fronted metal. Maybe I'm just desperate (haha!) Some of HB's songs did have a Planet Shakers metal feel to them though. Good on them for praising God but their lyrics could be more poetic. Not a patch on Nightwish, Epica, Within Temptation etc.
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I didn't even know the term "secular" until I came to this site, lol.
Yeah most of my music is nonchristian. Kind of like how most of my pants and socks and shirts are "nonchristian" lol. They just *are* and I listen to them because they elevate my moods, energize, inspire me artistically, or just simply sound appealing.
Yeah most of my music is nonchristian. Kind of like how most of my pants and socks and shirts are "nonchristian" lol. They just *are* and I listen to them because they elevate my moods, energize, inspire me artistically, or just simply sound appealing.
Secular if I want good music and wanna chill out. If I'm not feeling good though, I have a few Christian bands I listen too... I mean, I hate casting crowns style and ccm in general, but on a bad day, songs like Prodigal or Set Me Free are gold... Mellow and nice lyrics.
But if I wanna just hear good music... Nothin tops the secular stuff.
But if I wanna just hear good music... Nothin tops the secular stuff.
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So what exactly makes christian music christian? The lyrics? The atmosphere? The melody? The conviction of the performers?
Funny how most people actually mean 'MODERN christian music' when they talk about 'christian music,' though 'worship music' (etc) is a relative newcomer. Christian music has been around for over 1500 years, from the earliest hymns to the present day. The lyrics have always been important, but sometimes the melodies of these songs became so well known that they could evoke the some 'religious sensation' in their own right. Just think of the the stringquartet on the Titanic that played 'Nearer my God to Thee' as the ship went down; the people aboard got the message alright, even without the lyrics to that song.
It's interesting to see how many of the christian hymns were inspired by secular songs, take for instance the melodies of the 'Geneva Psalter.' And J.S. Bach had no problem reusing the music of his secular cantatas for solemn occasions, he was a very practical man.
Whether music is 'christian' judging by its 'atmosphere' is an interesting point of discussion. We can have our doubts about 'christian metal' being christian, for instance, I mean: it's loud, 'heavy' and very serious in tone. I myself wonder why there is so little REALLY good christian dance and trance music available; the overall atmosphere of such music fits the act of worship much more that metal does: it's optimistic in tone, uplifting, extatic.
Modern christian music usually is mediocre compared to its secular counterpart. A lot of mediocre christian bands make a good living with their music, not necessarily because of the quality of their music, but because the christian lyrics and the coniviction of the band members gets them a loyal crowd of fans. I mean: if you expect the band to be christian, and the lyrics ONLY to be inspired by the Bible, you have to be content with such bands.
Funny how most people actually mean 'MODERN christian music' when they talk about 'christian music,' though 'worship music' (etc) is a relative newcomer. Christian music has been around for over 1500 years, from the earliest hymns to the present day. The lyrics have always been important, but sometimes the melodies of these songs became so well known that they could evoke the some 'religious sensation' in their own right. Just think of the the stringquartet on the Titanic that played 'Nearer my God to Thee' as the ship went down; the people aboard got the message alright, even without the lyrics to that song.
It's interesting to see how many of the christian hymns were inspired by secular songs, take for instance the melodies of the 'Geneva Psalter.' And J.S. Bach had no problem reusing the music of his secular cantatas for solemn occasions, he was a very practical man.
Whether music is 'christian' judging by its 'atmosphere' is an interesting point of discussion. We can have our doubts about 'christian metal' being christian, for instance, I mean: it's loud, 'heavy' and very serious in tone. I myself wonder why there is so little REALLY good christian dance and trance music available; the overall atmosphere of such music fits the act of worship much more that metal does: it's optimistic in tone, uplifting, extatic.
Modern christian music usually is mediocre compared to its secular counterpart. A lot of mediocre christian bands make a good living with their music, not necessarily because of the quality of their music, but because the christian lyrics and the coniviction of the band members gets them a loyal crowd of fans. I mean: if you expect the band to be christian, and the lyrics ONLY to be inspired by the Bible, you have to be content with such bands.
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I agree. And I have noticed that for the most part the Christian bands do suffer in comparison most of the time. Especially depending on the genre. Some musical genres that are secular are not even well known in the secular world. It's a matter of preference. Who you are and what your tastes are will determine what is uplifting. I am at the point of screening out secular by the message. Some of the lyrics are just too offensive. Again it is just a judgment call for each individual. I had the idea that secular music will send you to hell. This was from other people and I never felt a conviction on the subject. When I look at certain bands I do and I don't listen to those bands. I am finding that most people feel the same way.
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I'll be the first one to say that much of the christian music scene is pretty lame...so much of it is wishy washy geared for yer' Grandparents & stay at home Mom's that watch TBN all day.Yet there are a ton of awesome christian bands that never made it mainstream,so therefore most people into the secular stuff never get to hear any of it. I can't tell you how many of my friends over the years I have turned on to christian bands. I've had friends that were so anti-God,yet I'd have something like Believer,Tourniquet,Circle of Dust,Living Sacrifice...(I could go on & on) cranked up..and they'd be "like this is great,who are these guys?"...5 minutes later.."Did they just say something about Jesus???" Then I tell them they're christian & the look of shock & horror on their face is priceless. LOL If you think about it this way too...the sheer amount of secular bands out there,are what in the millions??? Realistically out of all those bands...how many are actually really good/talented to listen to? A few thousand??? Hey,I like both but I still think that if more people heard the good christian bands instead of the melancholy stuff that gets pumped out on christian radio & bookstores because they have all the $$$ for publicity,more people might change their minds in saying that it's mediocre.