submitting

Shes not so new. So you dont think the young lady that started this thread didnt have enough sense to determine which forum she wanted to post it? She has posted 185 times and been here 2 wks. I see this "helpful" stuff more as flexing ones muscles and passive aggressive control issues. Misc is misc. What part of that is perplexing? SMH......

Im not entertaining your "run in an pontificate" urge. Im done.

Yeah it wasn't clear. Here's why, and I'll reference your original post.

You first admitted that you were taught by example and that it wasn't good enough. You're admitting now that you have opinions based on a general, possibly faulty, understanding. Then, you make the statement that "you think" it's a poor translation of the original text. So, in essence, you're admitting that you have neither the experiential background, nor the biblical foundation for a solid opinion, yet you're coming onto a Christian forum that, I hope, supports the infallibility and inerrancy of scripture, saying that a part of the Bible is poorly translated. I'm not usually this hard on people, but this is a serious issue. I'm not trying to lure you into an argument; I'm telling you that you yourself are admitting you are not qualified to teach, yet that's precisely what you are doing. And you're doing so in a way that discredits the integrity of the text.

Okay. Are you open to pm on the subject?

Okay. Are you open to pm on the subject?

As we well know, scripture tells wives to submit themselves to their husbands. But what if the wife's husband is not a Christian; what if he doesn't submit to the Lord? Is there ever a time when a wife shouln't submit to her husband?

Thanks, everyone; I appreciate your responses on the subject.
Sorry for posting it here. I guess my common sense eluded me, eh?

Quote "I see this "helpful" stuff more as flexing ones muscles and passive aggressive control issues."

Blondie you are new here yourself. Your statement is purely judgmental. Ive been here about a year and have never found Blue Ladybug controlling or passive aggressive.Shes well liked by the majority of posters here.Trust me Ive seen controlling people on here and she's not one of them.

Skittlepumpkin is the only one who knows why she posted here. Again ladybug was being helpful.You're making a big deal of nothing and being very rude in the process. I dont care what you're entertaining, you dont have to be rude to make a point.In my opinion you owe ladybug an apology for judging her. Your attitude isnt very humble or Christlike.

Skittlepumpkin Im sorry for this derailing of your thread...


It's okay, kayla. I get flack alot for telling people where the more appropriate forums are, for a topic they want to discuss. Funny thing is, blondie blasts ME for it, but I've seen other posters, such as Ugly, tell people their posting in the wrong forum. If us regulars don't tell new people which forums are more appropriate, how will they know? Personally, I've been talked to worse, by worse people than blondie.. I can take it, but she needs to stop being so offended at everything people say, or she won't last long here. :/ As for "strong-arming" people, lol, I don't even have muscles. And I'm probably one of the LEAST aggressive people here. I do NOT enjoy conflict, nor do I like taking part in confrontations. As for "control issues", I have enough to control here at home, lol.. I DON'T need to be in control of CC too. Thank goodness I don't have to abide by blondie's opinions..lol..

Oh and blondie, for a newbie having been here only a matter of a couple weeks/months, that IS "relatively new" compared to the DECADES that some users have been here for.

Not yours, no. Your OP was partially in regards to non-Christian men, after all. I don't think it belonged in the BDF, exclusively.

Misc > WIDE GATE OF >>> variety> Diverse> Varied>


so in other words: misc is all inclusive therefore not requiring the forum self appointed police

Ah, okay! Well I don't feel so dumb then
Also, thanks Ladybug; I'll be more careful where I post

Get over yourself, honey. I'm NOT a self-appointed ANYTHING on here.. lol..

I merely pointed out the obvious. LOL
Since you are not self appointed,>>>QUIT ACTING LIKE IT!!

Come on ladies. Play nice.

As we well know, scripture tells wives to submit themselves to their husbands. But what if the wife's husband is not a Christian; what if he doesn't submit to the Lord? Is there ever a time when a wife shouln't submit to her husband?

Despite the obvious hype -- this is what submit looks like:

Two adults in a committed relationship (aka married) making adult decisions together after talking out the decision together. Hubby bases the decision on the "love wife like Christ loves the church*." Wife makes the decision based on trusting the hubby enough to submit to him. TOGETHER they work at it until they make a mutually agreed upon answer. On the rare occasion they cannot agree, than hubby -- who is always drawn to doing the best he can for his wife by loving her like Christ loves the church* gets the tie-breaking vote. And wife trust him enough to go with it.

This isn't bowing down, this isn't second-class citizen, this isn't brow beating him until he caves, this isn't taking the reigns. It's a marriage. Togetherness. Two become one. The real deal. Equals. And, on a rare day when there is a two-person partnership and the partners just can't agree, it's best to figure out who gets the tie-breaking vote before that day hits. That's done because the other partner trusts enough to submit.

If you hear otherwise from some what-have-I-stepped-into church, GET OUT! Because this is submission.

Seriously? Better to marry a believer, but how many of us become believers after we got married? Just the same, shouldn't we have married a guy we're willing to take a bullet for and he's willing to take the bullet for us? The husband is our mantle -- our protection, our crutch when life gets too much, our lover, our biggest need in the world. (God is all time biggest need.) Whether a believer or not, it was the guy God picked out for you, and you don't get to walk away unless he releases you.

I can think of one reason I wouldn't submit to hubby -- if he ever wanted me to do something illegal or immoral. Then again? Why would I ever marry a guy like that in the first place?


* "As Christ loved the church." He DIED for the church. THAT much love. Don't marry a dude who won't do that for you. And don't marry the dude if you're not willing to do the same for him!

I merely pointed out the obvious. LOL
Since you are not self appointed,>>>QUIT ACTING LIKE IT!!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now we're getting somewhere. Can I "double-like" a post?

Come on ladies. Play nice.