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Derek, my older brother, responded to my text. I did reach out to him afterwards. I basically just said, "Thanks for all that you did to make today happen! Sorry, but I just can't stay! Love you. And I want to just say, I hope you are not mad. I tried saying bye to you but could tell you were a bit upset. I did not mean to make you upset. I needed to do this for myself and still wanted to make that appearance to show that excitement and respect. I do love you!"

He responded with, "Ok. I think we need to talk at some point."

I've been crying all day yesterday and I called my mentors. They became really close to me a year and a half ago and they aren't that much older than me but I see them as my spiritual parents and they have been nothing but supportive.

They suggested that I write out a letter to my parents and send it to them to let them know that I am in fact pulling away. And to Derek and Lauren (Lauren is Derek's wife), to write a letter but actually sit down with Derek and Lauren and read it to them.

I feel emotionally sick. I'm sad and heartbroken.

IN all honesty, I don't care if I hurt my dad. He is merely a man that has been placed in my life. But, my Mom, on the other hand....I'm crushed and hurt that I'm walking away from her. But, I need to. I need to in order to get better. She is the NICEST woman you'll ever meet. However, I have so much anger towards her for choosing my Dad over me. For looking at me being abused and turning her head. I can't have someone like that in my life. Yes, she may not have abused me but allowing the abuse to happen is abuse in itself.
Just in case you don't understand guy-talk well. (Guys and gals have different ways of saying things.) Your brother's text? He is saying that something bothered him at that moment, but not to the point of giving up on you. A long talk will be required, but he he loves you even if he's not agreeing with you.

(Most of my life has been around guys, so I honestly understand guy-talk better than gal-talk.)

We don't know each other well enough for me to say anything about the rest of what you wrote, but I can tell you this -- you really are a stronger woman than I am.
 
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Try to get everyone together and tell them you're not going to put up with it anymore. Tell them you love them and want a healthy relationship, if your brothers care about you they won't dissown you.

You're not far away from having a break down if you let this continue. I pray that Christ gives you peace.
If you had parents like hers, how long before you would have folded? I'm thinking I probably would have left somewhere between 16-18. If not, I'd probably be in psychiatric care in a padded room.

She's 28 years old and thriving. Not peachy-keen-joyful yet, but thriving. She's found people who help her, and she's making it. AND she has gone this long trying to stay with her family.

She's not close to having a breakdown. She just cut ties to avoid that breakdown. That is Samson like strength and Solomon like wisdom. The Lord has strengthened her mentally through adversity of the likes I could not bear. Don't ask her to do things that seem reasonable to you. She has gone 10-12 years beyond what most can endure and she is still whole. You can't do that without trying everything along the way. And considering she was physically, emotionally, and mentally abused, it is quite possible you are asking her to go back into that den of vipers.

Unless we know her very well, we really shouldn't be counseling her that much. Counselors know never to counsel someone over the phone or online. If they dare not, then why do we dare?
 

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If you had parents like hers, how long before you would have folded? I'm thinking I probably would have left somewhere between 16-18. If not, I'd probably be in psychiatric care in a padded room.

She's 28 years old and thriving. Not peachy-keen-joyful yet, but thriving. She's found people who help her, and she's making it. AND she has gone this long trying to stay with her family.

She's not close to having a breakdown. She just cut ties to avoid that breakdown. That is Samson like strength and Solomon like wisdom. The Lord has strengthened her mentally through adversity of the likes I could not bear. Don't ask her to do things that seem reasonable to you. She has gone 10-12 years beyond what most can endure and she is still whole. You can't do that without trying everything along the way. And considering she was physically, emotionally, and mentally abused, it is quite possible you are asking her to go back into that den of vipers.

Unless we know her very well, we really shouldn't be counseling her that much. Counselors know never to counsel someone over the phone or online. If they dare not, then why do we dare?
Crying means thriving? What I'm suggesting is that she tries to talk to her family, espicaly her brothers about how she feels and what she is doing about it, or at least just get her brothers together to know where she and her brothers stand on the issue.

I wouldn't say I've been phyisicaly abused, but both my parents, aunts and unkles were alcoholics. There's was always fighting, and things being thrown around the house, someone was always in jail or rehab. Some of my childhood memories are of my mother screaming at the top of her lungs at me when she in the morning. I didn't for years because she told me the pair of shorts I was wearing made me look gay when I was in the 4th grade. She likes to pray in the mornings, but we got a cat that was very attached to her that dissurbed her one morning so I woke up to her yelling "I have no fu#*ing spiritualality because of this fu#*ing animal!". Most of time my father was passed out drunk when he wasn't spending all his money to get drunk or buy crack. Not much has changed, my mother still talks to like I'm garbage, her and my unkle are both chronic complaners and I have to deal with them both everyday, this has been my life for the 28 years I been alive.
I don't have her family, but I know how emotionally exhausting family can be.

I couldn't care less what counsilers would or wouldn't do. Most of them are just useless.
 
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My dear lovely sister, if you haven’t forgiven your Dad from your heart and your Mom for allowing the abused to take place; you are making a very big mistake. So many Christians have caged themselves because of unforgiveness and their lives are full of sadness, anger, stagnation and pain because of this.
I don’t want you my dear lovely sister to fall into this trap of the devil.

No matter how far you go away from your Dad or Mom, if you haven’t forgiven them from your heart my dear, you have not solved the problem at all.

Please! Please! Please! Make sure you forgive your Dad or Mom from your heart before you carry out any action of pulling away from them.


It posted a message here titled “ We Must Forgive.” Let me share it again with you my dear lovely sister.


Have you ever been wrongly accused, even deeply wounded by others? Like Job in the Bible, pray for those who have hurt you, and forgive them. When we forgive, we release the pain and offence that had the power to destroy us. Forgiveness not only cleanses us from toxic bitterness, it opens the door for God's Word and presence to bring healing and restoration. It also activates the blessing of God to flow and produce more life and peace and joy than we imagined possible! So choose to forgive and let that double portion blessing flow!
GOP, I have been working on forgiving for quite some time. Lol.

I understand you are just trying to be helpful, but I am in the process of forgiving, but also setting up boundaries with my parents because they are still showing the same fruits.
 
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With that said, I am going to be talking to my brother and his wife hopefully soon.

Then will talk to my youngest brother and his wife when I head out to California in two weeks. (That's where they live!)

For my parents, I am writing a letter.

This is to let everyone know what is happening. I do believe they all need to know. Setting up boundaries with my parents is not wrong. I am still being blamed for what happened to me by my parents, my Dad just tried fighting me two months ago, and he's now trying to buy his way back into my life since I've been moving away from him for a month's time.
 
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Crying means thriving? What I'm suggesting is that she tries to talk to her family, espicaly her brothers about how she feels and what she is doing about it, or at least just get her brothers together to know where she and her brothers stand on the issue.

I wouldn't say I've been phyisicaly abused, but both my parents, aunts and unkles were alcoholics. There's was always fighting, and things being thrown around the house, someone was always in jail or rehab. Some of my childhood memories are of my mother screaming at the top of her lungs at me when she in the morning. I didn't for years because she told me the pair of shorts I was wearing made me look gay when I was in the 4th grade. She likes to pray in the mornings, but we got a cat that was very attached to her that dissurbed her one morning so I woke up to her yelling "I have no fu#*ing spiritualality because of this fu#*ing animal!". Most of time my father was passed out drunk when he wasn't spending all his money to get drunk or buy crack. Not much has changed, my mother still talks to like I'm garbage, her and my unkle are both chronic complaners and I have to deal with them both everyday, this has been my life for the 28 years I been alive.
I don't have her family, but I know how emotionally exhausting family can be.

I couldn't care less what counsilers would or wouldn't do. Most of them are just useless.
Then you have something like them.
 
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You're so brave...
Walking away from something or doing something you need to even when you might lose some of the most important people in your life is so incredibly hard.
It destroys you emotionally. I know. I get it.

But, you made the right decision. Congratulations.
It may take some time but this will turn out okay God willing.
You'll be okay
 
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I will be your friend/ sister. I am sorry what your going through :((((( xoxooxoxox Hows everything right now. If i had a home i would welcome you i would want someone to do that for me <333 Just keep praying. Forgive your parents i know it is hard remmber who are enemy is. I got hit by my grandpa i know how you feel. I am here for you if you want to talk.
 

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Good morning,
Are you able to see this working for good?
I have no family, "The Lord is a Father to the Fatherless."
We are in trouble worst than we realise with affections in this life. You know in part and that's all we can do.
Since your entering the dark night, the study I have, Journey to enter into rest, should help with encouragement that it's where we need to be, Hope you understand parable language. Meditation on the journey is for preparation to cease from ourselves and enter into rest in God. What the enemy intends for evil, works for good to those who are not offended. The details like your brothers are in His hands as much as the whole world is. Let you worrying be turned to fear admiration of the Lord, present with you in the dark. We don't see Him in the dark but we are members of His body, not abandoned. Going through the experience helps us see Him, even though it's dimly in this life. That experience to see better you won't regret having taken the opportunity to develop: Making the most of our time.
 
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Precious One,

I have been right where you are. I was abused by my father. Had siblings that were blinded (under the control), even my mother, although we were all abused. And with the help my counselor cut my relationship off with my father because of the manipulative control and the refusal to accept, repent and reconcile on the basis of truth.

In making this decision I missed out on a lot... weddings, babies born, birthdays, etc. ... however, I gained a safe place to heal and to grow. I kept my own children from the abuse (emotional abuse is abuse), although they all have experienced 2nd hand trauma from me as I healed and still at times get triggered.

The greatest thing I miss is my mother. Yes, she did not protect me and she also suffered abuse, but I had a decent relationship with her and she could not continue her relationship with me after I would not see my father again. She was under his control.

I have been criticized by Christian and non-Christians for not being forgiving and doing the “christian” thing; however, I did right in the sight of God.

I want to talk to you more but this is enough for right now.

You need to press into God and His unconditional love for you. He is your Father. He will always treat you with the love, kindness, and gentleness you should have always had.

I hurt for you but I want you to know over time things can change with your brothers and mom. It is a shock to them and it rocks their world because they have to question if they did the right thing.

Who do you have in your life to physically spend time with?
 

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You were still on my mind when I opened a book called future Grace, and read a word that was underlined: Confidence that a Sovereign God governs for good all the pain and Joy we experience, "God is our refuge and strength in times of trouble." and the Joy that no one can take from us is this: "Be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." Included this verse the Lord told me years ago. What your going through is necessary and you made right choices that you had to make, rest assured: Its about entering into rest in God: There is a place of breakthrough, "Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit sais the Lord." You have His Spirit, Value what you have it's your deliverance. The same applies to me and all those the Lord calls to overcome, "Many are called but few are chosen." Revelations tells us why few are chosen, "They are called chosen and Faithful." Faithful is not turning to the world for help. I have had trouble for years with this especially after marriage break in a controlling marriage, that I strongly suppose needed to happen, and still struggled with codependency recently: To Forsake everyone and everything and my own life to follow the Lord. Don't misunderstand: Its a question of first Love, until then we are in trouble, and don't understand, when we do understand it's only the beginning of the journey. "When my father and mother forsake me then then Lord will take me up." It sound like you have been called but don't take my word for it: Since He will take you up, ask Him and keep in mind God is not in a hurry.
 
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Crying means thriving?



I want to talk about this a bit. Because, yes, crying can mean thriving. We have all cried. In fact, God asks us to cry out to Him. Does that mean we aren't thriving? Not in the least. When someone close to you dies and you cry, does that mean you're not thriving? If what you say is true, then any types of tears are a no-go. You can't cry because that means you're not thriving.


Let me explain how I am thriving in my life. This is no attack on you, but to tell you that I believe this statement is false in itself.


- I have lost 25 pounds in the span of 2-3 months based on eating healthy and working out daily.
- I have a healthy social circle where I have plenty of friends I go out.
- I go to school fulltime and maintaining a 4.0, while still juggling my social life
- I work fulltime, live by myself, and loving it.
- I picked up hobbies after a breakup in January and the breakup never beat me, but I beat up the breakup

If that's not thriving, then I don't know what your definition of thriving is.



To say I'm not thriving because I'm crying is just not accurate. I have reached out to my Dad countless of times to try to build that relationship. I have stayed with my parents for 28 years, trying to overcome the obstacle and trying to be that daughter to them. I have put all my effort into trying to build something out of nothing.


When someone is in my life who has changed, but still resorts back to violence as his #1 option in dealing with his 28-year old daughter, this is someone I do not want in my life. He also doesn't understand why I'm emotional over this and he does not remember much of the abuse himself. He thought it lasted for a couple of years, but it lasted for 11 years.

He's noticed that I've been pulling away, so he's been trying to buy his way back into my life (literally). I mean, after every incident he put his hands on me, hours later, he'd buy me a candy bar or something nice or just give me money. No apology, just that. Until one day, I told him, "I don't want candy, I want you to stop beating me. Just stop and you don't have to waste your money." But it never stopped. He beat me, then he'd buy me things. Beat me, then buy me things. And to this day, he is emotionally controlling over my life and still tries to buy me things.


Forgiveness does not happen overnight when it's been most of my life of abuse. It has affected every area of my life. Relationships, my view of God, my view of myself, etc etc. I actually am surprised that I'm mentally healthy as I am today than other victims of abuse.
 
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Precious One,

I have been right where you are. I was abused by my father. Had siblings that were blinded (under the control), even my mother, although we were all abused. And with the help my counselor cut my relationship off with my father because of the manipulative control and the refusal to accept, repent and reconcile on the basis of truth.

In making this decision I missed out on a lot... weddings, babies born, birthdays, etc. ... however, I gained a safe place to heal and to grow. I kept my own children from the abuse (emotional abuse is abuse), although they all have experienced 2nd hand trauma from me as I healed and still at times get triggered.

The greatest thing I miss is my mother. Yes, she did not protect me and she also suffered abuse, but I had a decent relationship with her and she could not continue her relationship with me after I would not see my father again. She was under his control.

I have been criticized by Christian and non-Christians for not being forgiving and doing the “christian” thing; however, I did right in the sight of God.

I want to talk to you more but this is enough for right now.

You need to press into God and His unconditional love for you. He is your Father. He will always treat you with the love, kindness, and gentleness you should have always had.

I hurt for you but I want you to know over time things can change with your brothers and mom. It is a shock to them and it rocks their world because they have to question if they did the right thing.

Who do you have in your life to physically spend time with?
Did you reconcile with anyone after you walked away?
 
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Who do you have in your life to physically spend time with?
I have a lot, actually.

I have my mentor and his wife with his kids.
I have my best friends who have already told me I can come over whenever on weekends to do laundry (I don't have access to a washer or dryer in my apartment!) or just to hang out.

:)
 

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Hey, I feel your pain, I cant say I've been through what you've been through,
but I know what its like to feel alone and rejected and hated. I've felt that way my whole life.
and its my parents who decided they didnt want anything to do with me.

Your doing the right thing, it's hard I know, but you shouldn't have to put up with abuse,
no one should, and your doing the right thing reporting the abuse to the police.
He has issues he needs to deal with, and he may have to hit rockbottom before he does.

I know your afraid of loosing your relationship with your brothers, But pray over it,
God is in control. If your brothers know whats going on, they won't abandon you if they really love you.

I've felt like a blacksheep all my life, I've pretty much felt alone all my life. It started in school,
then my parents got divorced, and then they kicked me out of the house, and now they dont want anything to do with me.
If I thought I could find just one person to love me, I would probably be the happiest guy on earth.

When I say I want 6-12 kids, Im not kidding, I really dont want to spend the rest of my life alone, I would be happy with what ever God gave me, But I want as many as possible.

If you ever need anyone to talk too, you can message me any time you want. of course right now, it might take a while to get back to you with my work schedule.

Today, I finally came to my place after a weekend of festivities with my friends and went to bed to cry.


Today, my heart is breaking.


After much discussion and after lots of prayer and seeking God and getting counsel from mentors and close friends, I am breaking ties with my parents.


To those who don’t know (actually, I think only two of you know because I do not discuss this with anyone)….I went through severe physical abuse done by my father for 11 years. To this day, the abuse is no longer physical but it is under control and making me feel guilty. There have been a few instances where my Dad has tried fighting me again the past few years, and I would tell him that I’m no longer going to let him lay his hands on me without me calling the police.


With that said, I am close to my brothers. So. Close. But, everyone has been blinded by the abuse. My mother and my brothers both have seen this abuse and even though God has restored things with my brothers, my Mom let things happen and blamed me every time my Dad would either punch me in the face…among other things.


There was a retirement dinner for my Mom today. A surprise one. I came home from my camping trip with friends, showered, put on makeup, and got a dress on. I went, socialized, was there for about an hour and a half and then started noticing the same old feelings of sadness wash over me.


I don’t usually feel sad, nor rejected, or like a black sheep. But going to a place where I am ignored, I’m just done. I decided to leave.


My mom tried talking to me about it, but I just politely refused and said, “I just need to go. So excited for your retirement and happy retirement! We’re all so happy for you.” I turned to my brother and tried waving and saying goodbye, and he shifted his eyes away from me and didn’t say anything to me.


My heart is breaking. I’m so scared of losing my relationship with my brothers. Not all of you might agree, but you don’t know all the details or the things that happened and continue to happen. I’ve never took care of myself.


I’m breaking ties for me to heal and for me to take care of myself. But, I’m scared of losing my relationship with Derek (my older brother) and youngest brother (Devon).


I’m crying in my bed, about to get ready to go out because I just can’t be by myself.


My heart is breaking.


My heart is sad.
 
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Did you reconcile with anyone after you walked away?
I love someone whose parents did absolutely every kind of abuse often the entire time growing up to all six kids. When he grew up, he told his mother that he was getting married. She told him that if he did, never come home again. He had no home.

His brother went along with his mother, so he had no contact with his family for seven years. In that seven years he became born again, and then his brother did. So his brother called him, and they rectified and became very close. (His brother was as miserable as his parents were when they were growing up too.)

After rectifying, they became very close. And then his two other brothers got in contact with him too, and they ended up becoming saved. One was saved two weeks before he died.

I met him five years later. He was getting along well with all his siblings, but I'll tell you the truth. Being around them has bothered him for years. That same sadness you had at your mother's retirement party? That seems to be a ghost for him. Whenever he gets back together with his family, all the memories from childhood return. Christmas is the hardest, because that's traditionally when family's gather, and he dreads that feeling. Not them. The feeling.

This doesn't necessarily become your story, but I thought you'd like to know how it worked out for someone else.

On the good side. I've seen the next generation grow up. The children of this family. And now I'm watching their children grow up. In all but one child, the abuse ended. (Oddly, that one child -- who is a man now -- wasn't abusive. He is abused by his wife.) The cycle is broken, in all but one of them. Considering the generation curse of that family, this is truly amazing.
 

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I want to talk about this a bit. Because, yes, crying can mean thriving. We have all cried. In fact, God asks us to cry out to Him. Does that mean we aren't thriving? Not in the least. When someone close to you dies and you cry, does that mean you're not thriving? If what you say is true, then any types of tears are a no-go. You can't cry because that means you're not thriving.


Let me explain how I am thriving in my life. This is no attack on you, but to tell you that I believe this statement is false in itself.


- I have lost 25 pounds in the span of 2-3 months based on eating healthy and working out daily.
- I have a healthy social circle where I have plenty of friends I go out.
- I go to school fulltime and maintaining a 4.0, while still juggling my social life
- I work fulltime, live by myself, and loving it.
- I picked up hobbies after a breakup in January and the breakup never beat me, but I beat up the breakup

If that's not thriving, then I don't know what your definition of thriving is.



To say I'm not thriving because I'm crying is just not accurate. I have reached out to my Dad countless of times to try to build that relationship. I have stayed with my parents for 28 years, trying to overcome the obstacle and trying to be that daughter to them. I have put all my effort into trying to build something out of nothing.


When someone is in my life who has changed, but still resorts back to violence as his #1 option in dealing with his 28-year old daughter, this is someone I do not want in my life. He also doesn't understand why I'm emotional over this and he does not remember much of the abuse himself. He thought it lasted for a couple of years, but it lasted for 11 years.

He's noticed that I've been pulling away, so he's been trying to buy his way back into my life (literally). I mean, after every incident he put his hands on me, hours later, he'd buy me a candy bar or something nice or just give me money. No apology, just that. Until one day, I told him, "I don't want candy, I want you to stop beating me. Just stop and you don't have to waste your money." But it never stopped. He beat me, then he'd buy me things. Beat me, then buy me things. And to this day, he is emotionally controlling over my life and still tries to buy me things.


Forgiveness does not happen overnight when it's been most of my life of abuse. It has affected every area of my life. Relationships, my view of God, my view of myself, etc etc. I actually am surprised that I'm mentally healthy as I am today than other victims of abuse.
Not to be rude, but the title of your topic is "Crying all day" and you said "today my heart is breaking" which gave the impression that you were emotionally disturbed. Losing weight, doing good in school, living on your own is great, but I'm sure you give the real credit to Christ for the fulfillment in life. People can be thriving by those standards and still be miserable and empty on the inside because true siginfigance comes from the eternal purpose in life we get from Christ.

I wish you the best, take my advice from before, don't take it, whatever.
 
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You just need to work on being more assertive, and also less stubborn. It is one thing being kind but taking crap from people who show unkindness. It is another thing responding by being unkind yourself. But with the power of God, you can be kind, you can be strong, you can rise above that which hurts you, and you can inspire that which hurts you to treat you differently.

You might say why stubborn? Well things like forgiveness should come so easily (and without condition), if you find true alignment to God. My guess is you have forgiven on the surface, over and over, but it is not the same as in the deepest part of you. And the deepest part of you is what matters, because that is what matters to God. Even if someone abuses us, it is only ever on the surface; it is only really us who abuse the deepest part of our self, which no-one can get to except our self. And once we invoke blame, as many do, we weaken ourselves to victimhood. One of those abuses on the deeper self is to become stubborn, which makes us feel somewhat protected, my thoughts, my body, my life, but also blocks us from the spirit.

Everything belongs to God, even the situation. Good can come from it, you just have to have the eyes to see it. Passive/aggressive behaviour will fight or flight/run away, neither really solving the inner burden. Assertion is knowing God has the ultimate power to change you, to change the situation, and to put things in the right place.

For example, a passive person might say to your father, I love you but enough is enough and I'm going to stay away. But underneath the passive nature of it, they are hoping for a reaction, some kind of change, because they judge their own self worth and don't see that they are part of the problem. An aggressive person might say, you are bad, you make poor decisions, you have a horrible attitude, and your heart is in the wrong place, and you are the problem. But underneath they are hoping for forgiveness because they are mirroring their own self-judgement. An assertive person, with a sense of clarity (in God), see's that it take two to tango, and that sometimes this can be destructive, and to them they need a break from each other. And they say that, they say it like it is, even if it means accepting that somewhere along the line there is some truth in what the other person says, because there usually is. They know it might be hard, but, it's the right thing to do, that is what matters. And they are not doing that hoping something will change, they are doing it to realign themselves. Simply no conditions. Kind of letting God resolves the spiritual problems, and all you have to do is have the faith.

An assertive person can make difficult choices and not worry that they made the wrong decision. I mean if you ask God what is the solution, do you listen to the answer, or does stubbornness push you another way? A passive person worries which is the right decision. An aggressive person makes decisions before thinking about the consequences. A passive aggressive person makes decisions and then is angry about them before thinking about the consequences of the anger.

Anyway I'm kind of rambling off at a tangent, hope it means something though! Peace