God misleading?

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I have constantly been grilled and questioned over this for a while now. Even when things were better. I no longer feel an obligation to defend myself to every person eager to tell me I'm wrong. The people I know well, who doubted, were convinced when I told them why I believe this. As I said, it is not something I take lightly to say or believe and it was something I was initially very reluctant to trust in due to my past. God has, time and again, reinforced this belief in many ways, and has, at times, carried me when I was ready to give up before.
Then, what just changed?
 
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I'll summarize this as best as possible.

My entire walk I've never felt God speak to me about directions I should go. He's spoken Through me many times. He's done things for me. But never said 'this is what I want you specifically to do'. Until a while ago. I was Very skeptical I was hearing God when I first got the inkling He was pointing me in a direction. I doubted, questioned, argued, prayed, waited, listened, talked. And I felt time and time again God told me what I was to do.
Eventually I ran into a Huge problem I don't what God told me. Really that original problem has never left, but I just trusted God. And even when I thought to give up, God would renew me to it and make sure I kept moving in the right direction.
Recently things have gone so bad in this area, I was ready to say 'God, I give up. I'm going to be disobedient and I'm sorry, but I can't do this'. But, again, God made things right within me and kept me going in the same direction.
My problem now is that things with this situation have gotten so bad I don't think I Could do what I believe God has for me, even if everything just suddenly started working right. I've been so damaged that I don't really even want this direction anymore and I'm feeling more determined than ever to just say to God 'sorry, I tried, but you out too much on me and I give up'.
And it's quite upsetting, firstly because it is me disobeying God willfully and to His face. Secondly because for the first time in my life I feel that God gave me guidance, and it has lead to nothing but deep hurt and not to what He said, which causes me to have some doubt towards Him. Lastly because I also wanted this to work out as a desire of my heart as well. I have sacrificed so much, both in obedience, and my own deep desire, and feel like God lead me to a dead end and not to what He said.

Much of of my life I've felt as though happiness was a carrot on a stick and God just keeps me chasing, but never letting me obtain it. I've done things my way. I've done things His way. And both lead to the same tired, empty handed ending. Many times I've felt like giving up, but that carrot shows up to tease me and keep me going. So why keep me going? Why use finding a little happiness as way to keep me moving, if all I'm doing is running from one misery to the next and never having anything to show for it?
Why send Ina specific direction, guide me, encourage me, keep me going, if I'm at the end of my rope with it and farther away from where He said I'd be, than I was when I started? Many times God is more tiresome to me than a comfort to me.
You don't sound ugly to me TBH :)

Remember the beatitudes, and remember that we do not always understand what God is doing completely when he calls us to do something. He is for fulfilling HIS good and perfect will, which is for the best in the end.

"All things work together for the good of those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose."
 
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bikerchaz

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You don't sound ugly to me TBH :)

Remember the beatitudes, and remember that we do not always understand what God is doing completely when he calls us to do something. He is for fulfilling HIS good and perfect will, which is for the best in the end.

"All things work together for the good of those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose."
I did see this prayer request and have been giving it some prayer and meditation. I didn't want to come back with the same answers you have had already, even though I have been in this mental "desert of stress". JustWhoIAm has hit the nail on the head, some times we are put in a place where all we can do is stand, and having stood, we stand.

His shoulders are bigger than ours and any parent expects their child to throw a tantrum once in a while, so shout of you need to, you can not offend Him He loves you too much. But sometimes in our lives God sets us things that change the course of our path and seeing them as He sees can take a shift of cognitive understanding.

I still come across things that make me feel uncomfortable, I have found praise to be the demolition tool that works for me. I praise and stand and praise. I have found that accepting things in praise either removes them or allows me to start moving forward again one praise-full step at a time.

But I pray to you, Lord,
in the time of your favor;
in your great love, O God,
answer Ugly with your sure salvation.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Rescue Ugly from the mire,
do not let him sink;
deliver him from those who hate him,
from the deep waters.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Do not let the floodwaters engulf Ugly
or the depths swallow him up
or the pit close its mouth over him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Answer Ugly, Lord, out of the goodness of your love;
in your great mercy turn to Him.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Do not hide your face from your servant;
answer Ugly quickly, for he is in trouble.
In Jesus name Amen.
 

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Lord, I pray this person would find happiness in every situation. I pray You would know God well enough to know He works everything together for your good. Thank You, Lord, for hearing our prayers. In Christ's Name, Amen.
 

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Thank you for being honest. Sometimes i really do 'feel'some of what you write about, but unable to put things into words, or music or whatever...it is more than frustrating. Ah, sometimes perhaps i manage to put them into my cooking, wc turns out not so good after all the tries and effort, so the ppl around know something is wrong too-(! When i try to figure things out, its like i am getting weary while doing good, when the good Book said Let us not grow weary... and i only know i am in the wrong. May the gracious Father help, forgive, and grant mercy to love others and yourself again as He meant to, Ug, and us too in our struggles.
 
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bikerchaz

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How you doing brother?
 

azlightsout

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I pray that the LORD makes things Clear for u ---
 

damombomb

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God spoke to me one time after i prayed on and on , wanting to hear from him. He told me i was his from the beginning. He told told me to follow him and i would enter the joy of the Lord. All we can do is walk by faith daily. And be used whenever possible.
The higher God takes us the more opposition we face. We can only please God.

He is not a man that he should lie. He will finish what he has started in our lives.
I don't think any of us have a perfect life. But we should walk in his peace, love and faith.

Remember prayer agreement.Whatever we ask believing (one mind,one accord) and ask and believe the same thing, it shall be done.

Let it go. I through in the towell before over something and the lord said , so your going to let me have it now. I had fasted, prayed, everything possible. So i learned how to let things go and trust him to carry and work it out.
 
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Ariel82

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If God calls you to ministry, you will feel miserable until you answer His call because you will find no peace or joy rebelling against God's will.

You are in my prayers Ugly. You are an awesome brother,in Christ. Don't believe anyone who tries and tear you down and condemn you because of your past. Even if that somebody is you. Listen instead to God. Even when we are faithless, God is faithful.
 
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Ugly

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How you doing brother?
Sorry all. I've had so much going on, and trying to deal with, i forgot about this thread.

The situation continues to grow worse. I've been trying to do better about trusting God with it, rather than dwelling on it and being upset. It's been a struggle, but last night i wasn't doing as well with it as i have been. I'm trying to figure out what my next move should be and so i'm having to focus more directly on things, and it gets upsetting easier.
 
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Ariel82

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Dear God, you know our brother's situation, we lift him up and ask for your wisdom and insight be revealed to him so that he can find peace and joy in Your will.

Please bless and comfort him. In Jesus name we pray, amen.
 
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HisHolly

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Don't get weary in well doing..
not everyone gets clear instructions. Ezekiel got very clear instructions, Joseph was given 2 dreams and went on a long journey before they came to fruition
 
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for me, if I can focus on what I have learned in this journey of life thus far, that Jesus has required of me in
so many of these different worldly situations,
then my-me focus starts to change and He begins to allow me to comprehend what His will is for me to do -
in order to teach me how to accept with grace His comfort and peace, and trust in Him alone,
so that I may begin to grow in my Spirit and learn how help others who can identify with the same situations
that the world had led me into and that now I have been led to overcome, through Jesus Christ's love,
in order to serve Him, and Him only...
 
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Ugly

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for me, if I can focus on what I have learned in this journey of life thus far, that Jesus has required of me in
so many of these different worldly situations,
then my-me focus starts to change and He begins to allow me to comprehend what His will is for me to do -
in order to teach me how to accept with grace His comfort and peace, and trust in Him alone,
so that I may begin to grow in my Spirit and learn how help others who can identify with the same situations
that the world had led me into and that now I have been led to overcome, through Jesus Christ's love,
in order to serve Him, and Him only...
Yes, that's what i hear every time i go through something. But i keep going through things and hearing that, but anything i learn isn't changing things. I still go through one thing after another and this idea of learning something from it, which rarely benefits me, isn't a good enough reason to help me keep my head up. It's just so tiring trying to think there's any benefit to constantly suffering.
 
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Ariel82

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Yes, that's what i hear every time i go through something. But i keep going through things and hearing that, but anything i learn isn't changing things. I still go through one thing after another and this idea of learning something from it, which rarely benefits me, isn't a good enough reason to help me keep my head up. It's just so tiring trying to think there's any benefit to constantly suffering.
Jesus suffered and He didn't learn anything from it...he suffered because He loved us.

Sometimes we endure because we love God.
 
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Ugly

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Jesus suffered and He didn't learn anything from it...he suffered because He loved us.

Sometimes we endure because we love God.
Not really sure how that's supposed to help. Jesus suffered to save billions of people from an eternal torment. Even if he didn't learn anything, he did accomplish something. The greatest accomplishment in the history of all mankind.
My point was people always say you'll learn something. Or try to make some good come out of it. But it's not true.






Well, i'm pretty certain this situation is at the beginning stages of falling apart completely. The coming months are probably going to be horrible for me, as if my life isn't bad enough. I am crushed and defeated. I don't look forward to life in the coming months ahead. Probably not worth even praying for me.
 

notmyown

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Yes, that's what i hear every time i go through something. But i keep going through things and hearing that, but anything i learn isn't changing things. I still go through one thing after another and this idea of learning something from it, which rarely benefits me, isn't a good enough reason to help me keep my head up. It's just so tiring trying to think there's any benefit to constantly suffering.
Jesus suffered and He didn't learn anything from it...he suffered because He loved us.

Sometimes we endure because we love God.

Jesus learned obedience through what He suffered. (Heb. 5:8)

in the sense He learned by use and practice... to be in the habit of.

not saying you need to learn that, Ugly. because ugh, the whole 'trying to think there's any benefit to constantly suffering' thing. it's so burdensome... so exhausting.

maybe (and i'm just spitballing here) instead just look to Christ? try to rest in Him?

i think for some Christians, times of suffering can be a kind of divine vocation. (isn't that comforting? :rolleyes:)
sometimes we suffer for the sake of others, if that makes sense.
but i'm sorry i haven't told you what a testimony you have.

watching as far as i do, what i see is you, by grace, persevering through difficulty.
i see you not throwing away your confidence; your faith in God.
i see you questioning, and if we are honest, we all do. that in itself is a comfort to me, knowing i'm not alone in that.
i see you being honest with us about how you feel. how refreshing.

how like Job, about whom satan said, let me afflict him and he will curse God.
and (i'm kinda crying now) like Job you have remained faithful to God.
i see your attitude of 'though He slay me, i will hope in Him'.

so thank you. i just wanted you to know you have blessed me.
it's not been for nothing. i pray you will be blessed, too.

 
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ugly,

believe you, as you have expressed yourself very well...and we do believe that where you are
right now in your life, this is indeed what is happening to you and how you feel -
BUT, our WALK is not always about suffering...the KEY WORD is LOVE,
and that is to Love in simplicity and truth...

we must go out of our way to be kind and considerate of others, this costs us nothing monetarily,
but the result of practicing God's principles will always bring joy and after joy comes peace, and
with peace we begin to see a purpose and a plan with Jesus working in our lives...it is just one small
step at a time...
as it is written: For the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Gentleness...