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    Default Change the name of the Bible Discussion Forum

    When I joined this site in 2009, there was actually "discussion" in the BDF. Sure, there was some heated debate from time to time, but NOTHING like it is now.For the past year & a half, the subjects have been more about hyper-grace, radical grace, free grace, a whole bunch of grace names that all mean the same thing.....hyper-grace.

    The Admins know about it, the mods know about it, & have warned the members arguing about it. But no change.

    Every thread is either directly about it, or other threads get constantly sprinkled with "oh how we enjoy our free grace " or "we're saved forever & can never lose our salvation" type of stuff.

    I believe the BDF has been hijacked for the cause of advertising this doctrine, because in the past few weeks, more & more new members have come in talking about the same stuff, as if hypergrace IS the only true doctrine out there.

    Discussing it is one thing..... flooding the site with it is something else.

    My "suggestion" is that members in the BDF be investigated for holding multiple memberships & advertising hyper-grace.

    It is my belief that sockpuppets have infiltrated the CC to push this ungodly doctrine as "normal". It isn't

    Either clean it up, or change the name to the Hyper-grace Discussion Forum. Thank you.
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    Default Re: Change the name of the Bible Discussion Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    When I joined this site in 2009, there was actually "discussion" in the BDF. Sure, there was some heated debate from time to time, but NOTHING like it is now.For the past year & a half, the subjects have been more about hyper-grace, radical grace, free grace, a whole bunch of grace names that all mean the same thing.....hyper-grace.

    The Admins know about it, the mods know about it, & have warned the members arguing about it. But no change.

    Every thread is either directly about it, or other threads get constantly sprinkled with "oh how we enjoy our free grace " or "we're saved forever & can never lose our salvation" type of stuff.

    I believe the BDF has been hijacked for the cause of advertising this doctrine, because in the past few weeks, more & more new members have come in talking about the same stuff, as if hypergrace IS the only true doctrine out there.

    Discussing it is one thing..... flooding the site with it is something else.

    My "suggestion" is that members in the BDF be investigated for holding multiple memberships & advertising hyper-grace.

    It is my belief that sockpuppets have infiltrated the CC to push this ungodly doctrine as "normal". It isn't

    Either clean it up, or change the name to the Hyper-grace Discussion Forum. Thank you.
    I can sit here all day till it's noticed. I've been patient so far.
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    Default Re: Change the name of the Bible Discussion Forum

    Well, first of all, CS1 made a thread warning y'all about making/debating hyper-grace threads, and it's stickied in the BDF. So people cannot claim they haven't seen it. But yeah, the peeps in there seem to like to try and push the envelope as far as they can..





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    And also, it would take a ton of work to clean up the BDF. And considering that Oncefallen is pretty much the only forum mod, he certainly doesn't have that kind of time to devote to it. It's up to the peeps in the BDF to take responsibility for the threads they create. They already know not to start hyper grace threads, so if they do, ultimately they'll probably get banned.

    If peeps could learn to use the advanced search function before starting any given thread, they would see that a gazillion threads already exist.. lol





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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    And also, it would take a ton of work to clean up the BDF. And considering that Oncefallen is pretty much the only forum mod, he certainly doesn't have that kind of time to devote to it. It's up to the peeps in the BDF to take responsibility for the threads they create. They already know not to start hyper grace threads, so if they do, ultimately they'll probably get banned.

    If peeps could learn to use the advanced search function before starting any given thread, they would see that a gazillion threads already exist.. lol
    Those for hypergrace won't change, cause all they have to do is call it "grace", & keep right on going.

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    When I was in the chat rooms, UPC's would come in, pushing oneness doctrine, & they ALL got banned, so they can't say it can't be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    When I joined this site in 2009, there was actually "discussion" in the BDF. Sure, there was some heated debate from time to time, but NOTHING like it is now.For the past year & a half, the subjects have been more about hyper-grace, radical grace, free grace, a whole bunch of grace names that all mean the same thing.....hyper-grace.

    The Admins know about it, the mods know about it, & have warned the members arguing about it. But no change.

    Every thread is either directly about it, or other threads get constantly sprinkled with "oh how we enjoy our free grace " or "we're saved forever & can never lose our salvation" type of stuff.

    I believe the BDF has been hijacked for the cause of advertising this doctrine, because in the past few weeks, more & more new members have come in talking about the same stuff, as if hypergrace IS the only true doctrine out there.

    Discussing it is one thing..... flooding the site with it is something else.

    My "suggestion" is that members in the BDF be investigated for holding multiple memberships & advertising hyper-grace.

    It is my belief that sockpuppets have infiltrated the CC to push this ungodly doctrine as "normal". It isn't

    Either clean it up, or change the name to the Hyper-grace Discussion Forum. Thank you.
    I can sit here all day till it's noticed. I've been patient so far.

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    Ironic. The only one here who keeps making every thread about hypergrace is you. So, the onus is on you to stop it.

    “How foolish can you be? After starting your new lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeNChrist View Post
    Ironic. The only one here who keeps making every thread about hypergrace is you. So, the onus is on you to stop it.
    As expected..... Make me.

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    Sooo, let me get this straight.. YOU make every thread into a hyper grace thread? Then why are you complaining that it's so rampant in the BDF, if you're one of the ones who does it? All this thread here will get you, is banned. The mods aren't gonna jump to attention and do what you want them to just because you say do it.. If what FreeNChrist just said is true then he's right, it's on YOU to stop participating in the hyper grace threads..


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    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    Sooo, let me get this straight.. YOU make every thread into a hyper grace thread? Then why are you complaining that it's so rampant in the BDF, if you're one of the ones who does it? All this thread here will get you, is banned. The mods aren't gonna jump to attention and do what you want them to just because you say do it.. If what FreeNChrist just said is true then he's right, it's on YOU to stop participating in the hyper grace threads..
    Nooooooo.....he lied, & accused me of doing it, & told me to stop. That's not that hard to figure out.

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    I guess I'm gonna have to email all the mods & admins & personally invite them to this thread.

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    [QUOTE=Stephen63;2929827]When I joined this site in 2009, there was actually "discussion" in the BDF. Sure, there was some heated debate from time to time, but NOTHING like it is now.For the past year & a half, the subjects have been more about hyper-grace, radical grace, free grace, a whole bunch of grace names that all mean the same thing.....hyper-grace.

    The Admins know about it, the mods know about it, & have warned the members arguing about it. But no change.

    Every thread is either directly about it, or other threads get constantly sprinkled with "oh how we enjoy our free grace " or "we're saved forever & can never lose our salvation" type of stuff.

    I believe the BDF has been hijacked for the cause of advertising this doctrine, because in the past few weeks, more & more new members have come in talking about the same stuff, as if hypergrace IS the only true doctrine out there.

    Discussing it is one thing..... flooding the site with it is something else.

    My "suggestion" is that members in the BDF be investigated for holding multiple memberships & advertising hyper-grace.

    It is my belief that sockpuppets have infiltrated the CC to push this ungodly doctrine as "normal". It isn't

    Either clean it up, or change the name to the Hyper-grace Discussion Forum. Thank you.
    [/QUOTE

    I believe it is wrong on your part to accuse all who believe that salvation is by grace only with without works and also believes that salvation is eternal and can not be lost as be some kind of a Hyper-grace advocate.
    I never heard of the term until I was accused of it.
    I have also been accused of being addicted to sin or believe that I am free to sin because of my belief.
    What you and others state may be true with some, but I have never meet any one in my 30 plus years of ministry that belief as you and others have stated we believe.
    It seem you want to ban anyone and everyone who disagrees with your belief that salvation is not eternal but can be lost.
    You have a right to express your belief on this forum and so do I.
    Neither of us has the right to accuse others of believing what can not be proven by a quote from this forum, and yet that often happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persuaded View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    When I joined this site in 2009, there was actually "discussion" in the BDF. Sure, there was some heated debate from time to time, but NOTHING like it is now.For the past year & a half, the subjects have been more about hyper-grace, radical grace, free grace, a whole bunch of grace names that all mean the same thing.....hyper-grace.

    The Admins know about it, the mods know about it, & have warned the members arguing about it. But no change.

    Every thread is either directly about it, or other threads get constantly sprinkled with "oh how we enjoy our free grace " or "we're saved forever & can never lose our salvation" type of stuff.

    I believe the BDF has been hijacked for the cause of advertising this doctrine, because in the past few weeks, more & more new members have come in talking about the same stuff, as if hypergrace IS the only true doctrine out there.

    Discussing it is one thing..... flooding the site with it is something else.

    My "suggestion" is that members in the BDF be investigated for holding multiple memberships & advertising hyper-grace.

    It is my belief that sockpuppets have infiltrated the CC to push this ungodly doctrine as "normal". It isn't

    Either clean it up, or change the name to the Hyper-grace Discussion Forum. Thank you.
    I believe it is wrong on your part to accuse all who believe that salvation is by grace only with without works and also believes that salvation is eternal and can not be lost as be some kind of a Hyper-grace advocate.
    I never heard of the term until I was accused of it.
    I have also been accused of being addicted to sin or believe that I am free to sin because of my belief.
    What you and others state may be true with some, but I have never meet any one in my 30 plus years of ministry that belief as you and others have stated we believe.
    It seem you want to ban anyone and everyone who disagrees with your belief that salvation is not eternal but can be lost.
    You have a right to express your belief on this forum and so do I.
    Neither of us has the right to accuse others of believing what can not be proven by a quote from this forum, and yet that often happens.
    Ask the Admins & mods if all I'm doing is accusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    I guess I'm gonna have to email all the mods & admins & personally invite them to this thread.


    why don't you do that then Stephen

    either you are very forgetful, or you think you can pull the wool over everyone's eyes

    I have recently reported TWO of the hg type threads that you are complaining about and NEITHER one was started by someone you are calling hg

    I honestly cannot believe that you think the mods are dumb enough not to see what you are doing

    I stopped participating in those threads long before the mods pulled the curtain down...YOU are the actual person creating the atmosphere you are complaining about

    you are dogged and determined to get some folks banned it seemed

    I honestly do not hope you are banned or anyone else...but YOU are a MAJOR contributor

    and a word to all those that Stephen is callying hg...don't fall for his tactics

    we have him and inspirt doing the same things

    I have said it so many times...IGNORE these threads!!!!

    I have made my own point very clear a number of times...I don't subscribe to what Stephen here or inspirit are calling hg...as far as I know and live, there is ONLY God's grace...people can make a mess out of most anything it seems

    Stephen...a few people lately have asked you to stop what you are doing...you just truck on like a steam roller

    we are not all blind, dumb, deaf and stupid

    YOU are the one that got this entire mess going again...I have reported two different threads for the HG content and I am not the only one...one...that YOU started got shut down

    seriously...you need to stop it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenTM View Post
    why don't you do that then Stephen

    either you are very forgetful, or you think you can pull the wool over everyone's eyes

    I have recently reported TWO of the hg type threads that you are complaining about and NEITHER one was started by someone you are calling hg

    I honestly cannot believe that you think the mods are dumb enough not to see what you are doing

    I stopped participating in those threads long before the mods pulled the curtain down...YOU are the actual person creating the atmosphere you are complaining about

    you are dogged and determined to get some folks banned it seemed

    I honestly do not hope you are banned or anyone else...but YOU are a MAJOR contributor

    and a word to all those that Stephen is callying hg...don't fall for his tactics

    we have him and inspirt doing the same things

    I have said it so many times...IGNORE these threads!!!!

    I have made my own point very clear a number of times...I don't subscribe to what Stephen here or inspirit are calling hg...as far as I know and live, there is ONLY God's grace...people can make a mess out of most anything it seems

    Stephen...a few people lately have asked you to stop what you are doing...you just truck on like a steam roller

    we are not all blind, dumb, deaf and stupid

    YOU are the one that got this entire mess going again...I have reported two different threads for the HG content and I am not the only one...one...that YOU started got shut down

    seriously...you need to stop it!!!!
    If that's true, I'll be the ony one banned, right? That would be an easy fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    Ask the Admins & mods if all I'm doing is accusing.
    Would you carefully read my post again and than respond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persuaded View Post
    Would you carefully read my post again and than respond?
    If you had been on here for the past 2 years you could have seen it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen63 View Post
    If that's true, I'll be the ony one banned, right? That would be an easy fix.



    I just reported this thread...I don't think you are being honest Stephen

    and you can ask the mods if I want you to be banned

    you and inspiritintruth are the ones creating problems here

    do you actually not see what you are doing?

    are you not able to just move on from something? do you want a pound of flesh?

    you don't own the forum!!!

    start a thread about something else ...and try not to call people names and tell them how stupid you think they are
    Fasten your seatbelts; it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenTM View Post
    I just reported this thread...I don't think you are being honest Stephen

    and you can ask the mods if I want you to be banned

    you and inspiritintruth are the ones creating problems here

    do you actually not see what you are doing?

    are you not able to just move on from something? do you want a pound of flesh?

    you don't own the forum!!!

    start a thread about something else ...and try not to call people names and tell them how stupid you think they are
    Thank you for reporting it..... now I know they will come.

    Lauren, how can you say such things? You've NEVER been interested in these threads before. What's your MOTIVATION now?

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