I believe you and think at this point it's best you don't participate. It's very clear your conscience is not clear.
Your right, I could never support a day that promoted lying to children, materialism, had pagan origins, and drew the majority of people away from Jesus. Yes, It would bother me.
Well I'm just wondering why you would consider the observance of the birth of Christ a pagan practice. Is it because of the day, Dec. 25. If it were another day, would it be okay?
Yes*(below) and
YES*! I personally,
not saying you a bad guy if you don't agree, you asked so I explaining (braces for thrown tomatoes from the crowd) I personally celebrate His birth
*during "Tabernacles" I believe from my studies it is His birth because if you study the Feasts THEY ARE THE MOST AMAZING THING EVER! So there 7 and EVERY ONE is about Yahshua's (Jeusus) 1st and 2nd coming!
YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
This was not always the case, I celebrated X-mas up until 5+ years ago, though it was His birth and everything. I studied so so deeply when I was approached with this info that it changed my complete Scripture study frequency, because I realized I had missed something, and I didnt want to be lied to again.
*The New International Dictionary of the Christian Church, Revised Edition, by Zondervan Publishing:
CHRISTIAN YEAR, THE. The early Christians who were mainly Jews were used not only to keeping one day in the week as separate but also to marking the year with certain religious festivals, notably Passover, Tabernacles, and Pentecost. From early times Christians kept a commemoration of Christ’s resurrection. This was held at Passover time and was finally fixed on the Sunday following Passover. Pentecost was then celebrated at the appropriate time; the fifty days between the two were days of joy and rejoicing.
The choice of 25 December (in the East, 6 January) for the birth of Christ is almost certainly because that day was the great pagan day of honor to the sun, and in Rome in the fourth century it was transformed into a Christian festival. CHRISTMAS. The English name for the Feast of the Nativity of Christ kept on 25 December by the Western Church. There is no evidence of a Feast of the Nativity before the fourth century, except possibly among the Basilidians. Theearliestmentionof25 December is in the Philocalian Calendar, compiledin354, which cites its observance in Rome in 336. It would not appear to have been celebrated in Antioch until approximately 375. By380 it was being observed in Constantinople, and by 430 in Alexandria. It was still unknown in Jerusalem early in the fifth century__it was not until the sixth century that the Nativity was finally detached from 6 January and celebrated on 25 December. By the middle of the fifth century it was being gradually observed throughout East and West. The Armenians still observe 6 January, the closely related Feast of the Epiphany, as Christmas Day. There is no authoritative historical evidence as to the day or month of Christ’s birth in Jerusalem. 25 December was the date of a Roman pagan festival inaugurated in 274 as the birth day of the unconquered sun which at the winter solstice begins again to show an increase in light. Sometime before 336 the Church in Rome, unable to stamp out this pagan festival, spiritualized it as the Feast of the Nativity of the Sun of Righteousness. Christmas in the Eastern Church celebrates the birth of Christ together with the visit of the shepherds and the adoration o fthe wise men. In the Western Church the adoration of the Magi is attached to Epiphany on 6 January. In the Roman Catholic Church three masses are usually said to symbolize the birth of Christ eternally in the bosom of the Father, from the womb of Mary and mystically in the soul of the faithful. The traditional customs associated with Christmas have been derived from several sources. The merrymaking and the exchange of presents find their origin in the Roman Saturnalia festival (17-24 December), and the greenery and lights come from the Kalends of January (1 January, the Roman New Year) with its solar associations. The Germano-Celtic Yule rites introduced the tradition of feasting and fellowship. In the USA (and in England during the Commonwealth) Christian celebrations were at first suppressed by the Puritans, who objected to their pagan origins. Since the nineteenth century the celebration of Christmas has become increasingly popular.
Is not using modern instruments love for the world? It just seems to be the identical argument you're making. But would you take it that far, or do you draw the line at certain things?
IDK I never looed at it like "modern instruments" view beyond if it lines up with what Yah says. I have given thought to pollution, as we are supposed to care for the land (It is in the OT*) All I can say is anything He put on me or came before would be prayed about and followed, Yah will(He guides).
"modern instruments" Do you propose an ideal on something of this nature? Im open.
*we are supposed to care for the land (It is in the OT,)and the cool thing is if every 7 years the land is left not cultivated the vitamin and mineral content over a 70 year period stayed the same, but when every 7 was not let it went from like 40 or 70, but for sure I remember it went down to 8mcg of magnesium per ear or corn, when it was 40-70