ETERNAL LIFE
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To know, and to be known, that is the question. 
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Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/117450-know-known-not.htmlMatthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:
and they are they which testify of me.
Christ is that,
That eternal life, which was with the Father,
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,
and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
This is the true God, and eternal life
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
and they are they which testify of me.
Christ is that,
That eternal life, which was with the Father,
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,
and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
This is the true God, and eternal life
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Revelation 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
1 John 1:1
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Revelation 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
1 John 1:1
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
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Almighty God is an eternal life (Gen 21:33) which is a quality of life that's
impervious to age, death, and putrefaction; ergo: Almighty God has never
died, nor is it even possible for Almighty God to die.
In addition, according to John 5:26 and 1John 1:1-2, the Word (John 1:1) is
an eternal life too; ergo: the Word is impervious to age, death, and
putrefaction; ergo: the Word has never died, nor is it even possible for the
Word to die.
Now, the fact that the Word is an eternal life precludes the possibility of the
Word relinquishing his original existence in order to become a human
existence; viz: when the Word became flesh as per John 1:14, the Word did
not, and could not, cease to exist as his original self; viz: the Word
continued to exist as a spirit being simultaneously with his existence as a
human being.
Q: Doesn't 1Cor 15:45 prove that the Word's existence as a spirit being was
interrupted when he became flesh; and then when the Word rose from the
dead he went back to his existence as a spirit being? "The first man Adam
became a living soul; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
A: That verse is not speaking of the two men's endings; rather, their
respective beginnings; viz: Adam was born a living soul and that's it; while
Jesus was born not only a living soul; but also a living spirit.
The Watch Tower Society insists that human life is entirely organic. Well;
Christ obviously wasn't entirely organic. Within him was not just human life;
but also the life of God.
● Col 2:9 . . It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells
bodily.
The Greek word for "divine quality" is theotes (theh-ot'-ace) which
means: divinity.
Theotes is modified by the Greek definite article "ho" which means "the". Of
all the divinities that can be named; which is the divinity? Well, of course
the divinity is God. So then Col 2:9 could be paraphrased "It is in him that
all the fullness of Jehovah dwells bodily."
Surely at least a portion of the fullness of Jehovah is the power to both give
and to sustain all manner of life. So even had Christ not been a life-giving
spirit, he was at the very least a life-giving man.
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Almighty God is an eternal life (Gen 21:33) which is a quality of life that's
impervious to age, death, and putrefaction; ergo: Almighty God has never
died, nor is it even possible for Almighty God to die.
In addition, according to John 5:26 and 1John 1:1-2, the Word (John 1:1) is
an eternal life too; ergo: the Word is impervious to age, death, and
putrefaction; ergo: the Word has never died, nor is it even possible for the
Word to die.
Now, the fact that the Word is an eternal life precludes the possibility of the
Word relinquishing his original existence in order to become a human
existence; viz: when the Word became flesh as per John 1:14, the Word did
not, and could not, cease to exist as his original self; viz: the Word
continued to exist as a spirit being simultaneously with his existence as a
human being.
Q: Doesn't 1Cor 15:45 prove that the Word's existence as a spirit being was
interrupted when he became flesh; and then when the Word rose from the
dead he went back to his existence as a spirit being? "The first man Adam
became a living soul; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
A: That verse is not speaking of the two men's endings; rather, their
respective beginnings; viz: Adam was born a living soul and that's it; while
Jesus was born not only a living soul; but also a living spirit.
The Watch Tower Society insists that human life is entirely organic. Well;
Christ obviously wasn't entirely organic. Within him was not just human life;
but also the life of God.
● Col 2:9 . . It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells
bodily.
The Greek word for "divine quality" is theotes (theh-ot'-ace) which
means: divinity.
Theotes is modified by the Greek definite article "ho" which means "the". Of
all the divinities that can be named; which is the divinity? Well, of course
the divinity is God. So then Col 2:9 could be paraphrased "It is in him that
all the fullness of Jehovah dwells bodily."
Surely at least a portion of the fullness of Jehovah is the power to both give
and to sustain all manner of life. So even had Christ not been a life-giving
spirit, he was at the very least a life-giving man.
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1John 1:3
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist,
that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
[(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
John 17:23
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ,
whom thou hast sent.
1 John 1:2
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
Heres a few showing the Father and Son the the fellowship of them
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist,
that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
[(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
John 17:23
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ,
whom thou hast sent.
1 John 1:2
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
Heres a few showing the Father and Son the the fellowship of them
I met my legally blind best freind Chrissie by posting that way, she was able to read the forums much better
It helps me, helps some other and yet others hate it, I typically read more pronounced replies, rarely do I read yours.
I dont do it all the time, when I remember to change it back
Try the ignore button I will fall off the face of the earth for you and make you extremely happy.
Try not to compare our eyes
It helps me, helps some other and yet others hate it, I typically read more pronounced replies, rarely do I read yours.
I dont do it all the time, when I remember to change it back
Try the ignore button I will fall off the face of the earth for you and make you extremely happy.
Try not to compare our eyes
Yes the word eternal is the key, the gift is eternal life, the wage needed to pay the debt of denying the word of God by faith in the garden. It called eternal damnation never rising to new life again . The gift must be equal to the wage of sin and need an eternal being as the lamb of God slain from the foundation of this world, Christ in God to accomplish it. For if any man, Jew or Gentile has not the Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God.
Amen! The NASB says, "shall not" perish.. John 3:18 says - He who believes in Him "is not" condemned and not should not be condemned, but might. In The Catholic Bible (NAB) John 3:16 reads - For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
Two mights? Talk about throwing doubt on whether or not a person who believes in Him will receive eternal life. Catholicism teaches that we can't know for sure if we have eternal life. They call that the "sin of presumption," which explains a lot.
Two mights? Talk about throwing doubt on whether or not a person who believes in Him will receive eternal life. Catholicism teaches that we can't know for sure if we have eternal life. They call that the "sin of presumption," which explains a lot.
1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.