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Well, I was referring to the signs and wonders part of the OPs questioning which then you discussed with them, so I guess you mean the 'we' then as you and the OP (and maybe 1 or two others)?
I had bad spelling in my post I know
Comes from trying to post using a cell phone.. but unintelligible?
Re-iterating:
You've concluded that 'we' believe Jesus' second coming is 'that which is perfect' in 1 Corinthians 13.. when in actual fact as I posted, there are around 4 people who are either part of full cessationists posting in this thread.
So who is the 'we'?
Anyhoo..
This thread has been mostly done in good heart. Like I posted before- if at least you are looking at signs and wonders from the apostles and disciples perspective then.. they did have very particular purposes for spreading the gospel, establishing Jesus' churches and proving Jesus' and the disciples and apostles authority.
As far as fruits go.. there will be evidence initially of a believer having been sealed with the Holy Spirit, which would be fruits.. but I would also say if you don't actually see these fruits in a believer.. doesn't mean they didn't at one point have them, and doesn't mean they aren't saved.
I had bad spelling in my post I know
Comes from trying to post using a cell phone.. but unintelligible?Re-iterating:
You've concluded that 'we' believe Jesus' second coming is 'that which is perfect' in 1 Corinthians 13.. when in actual fact as I posted, there are around 4 people who are either part of full cessationists posting in this thread.
So who is the 'we'?
Anyhoo..
This thread has been mostly done in good heart. Like I posted before- if at least you are looking at signs and wonders from the apostles and disciples perspective then.. they did have very particular purposes for spreading the gospel, establishing Jesus' churches and proving Jesus' and the disciples and apostles authority.
As far as fruits go.. there will be evidence initially of a believer having been sealed with the Holy Spirit, which would be fruits.. but I would also say if you don't actually see these fruits in a believer.. doesn't mean they didn't at one point have them, and doesn't mean they aren't saved.
Mis communication going on
I was responding to the summary you made.
I am pointing out your summary isnt for the whole thread of posters but for the op, yourself and one or two others.
I find it annoying to be put with the 'we' in the summary. But clearly you must mean not everyone in this thread.
Dont know how this isnt clear.
Peace out
I was responding to the summary you made.
I am pointing out your summary isnt for the whole thread of posters but for the op, yourself and one or two others.
I find it annoying to be put with the 'we' in the summary. But clearly you must mean not everyone in this thread.
Dont know how this isnt clear.
Peace out