"Ok...let's STOP and use just a little common sense for one moment.
A child born with a drug dependency.....of course!
A child born with a family disease.....I can see that!
But the post above states that they believe, "....homosexuality can be an inherited natural trait in a life..."!!
And SOME of you agree with that?
So I must ask the forum, Did God instill in mankind a natural homosexual inherited trait?
Although we ALL are born of a sin nature we STILL have a choice on whether we commit sin or not. If, as the poster claims, "...homosexuality can be an inherited natural trait in a life...", then the choice to make a decision is removed!
Let's read what IS natural according to the scriptures;
Rom.1
[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Now of course....the explanation sounds great.....but does it line up with what God's word tells us in the above scriptures?
Why didn't the poster present this very clear description of what God considers to be a, 'inherited natural trait in a life'?
God's words tell us that a man 'naturally' wants to be with a woman, and that a woman 'naturally' wants to be with a man. Anything else is NOT what God intended for humans!"
Did I ever say it is what God intends for humans? Forgive me if I did! God forbid. But in all this God was the one who subjected all creation - humans included- to vanity. It was God who put man in the garden with the serpent and the choice- KNOWING full well ahead of time, that man would choose sin(lawlessness). He did this in the hope (a sure hope) that all creation will be restored someday in his time.
See Romans 8:20-21
God actually made Himself liable for our choosing sin because he knowingly put Adam in the ring with the tempter knowing Adam would fail. According to God's own law, which he is bound by, he is to "make good" what he caused to happen.
Exo 21:33 "And if a man opens a pit, or if a man digs a pit and does not cover it, and an ox or a donkey falls in it,
Exo 21:34 the owner of the pit shall make it good; he shall give money to their owner, but the dead animal shall be his.
God opened a pit - a place where one can fall
- He did not cover it so Adam would not fall in
We are the ox or donkey and we fell into the pit God dug.
The owner of the pit shall make it good. A ransom was paid. Now we belong to God. Restored.
So we need to get that straight from the start..Man was sold into sin by Adam but it was God who set it all up- on purpose!!
Sure, Adam chose to sin...but God could have prevented the whole thing..but He did not. He willed it to happen. It is not God's will that anyone live outside in sins. But in the plan of God we all do, or did.
Those of us who are enlightened by the Spirit and believe in Christ did so by His grace , not by our will or our choice alone. A
The Question:" Homosexuals,did God make them that way from birth?"
Obviously no one is born a homosexual. Sure, they choose at some point to swallow the thoughts as their own, and to go with the feelings, also accepting them as proof that this is how I am. That could have happened through many ways.
Many girls become lesbians because of the abuse received as children by men in their families.Many men were molested and defiled as boys.This defilement can also be through exposure to porn at a young age.
Along with the defilement come the flies(demon spirits), which begin buzzing around the mind of the defiled, hurting, confused one. They bully and cajole and convince, always speaking thoughts in the first person.."I must be gay, I am not like others, I am gay."
The natural use of the woman and the man is clearly heterosexual and to do otherwise is sin and against nature and against God's intention for male and female.
Yet the sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the children and the childrens children to the 3rd and 4th generation of those who hate Me.
So I still say that all of us have inherited a bent towards particular sins in our natural life.
Do we choose to sin..absolutely. Can we stop doing it. Not in our own strength. No way. Not by choosing or setting the will against it. Just try.
BUT the whole point of Christ coming was to take sin and death to death so that anyone, whether homosexual or perverted persons, can receive Life and begin to be transformed in their behaviour through the love and grace of God.
No one is lost because they were a homosexual, but because they did not believe in Jesus Christ who took away their sin on the cross.
Once a person comes to God thru Christ they have received a new life, become a new creation in their spirit center. ,Now they learn to walk in the spirit, looking at Christ as their new life, reckoning themselves dead to sin and alive to God.
At some point they call themslves by a new name..no longer homosexual, but a child of God.
It takes time to lose that old identity in our experience. And realise by faith that we are cleansed and made totally new, that we died with Christ and now live with Him - in union in our spirit. 1 Cor 6:17
The old pull towards our particular bent, will always be there until we walk in the glory He walked in. That bent came through our family tree.
But that is not who we are.
A person not even born again , does not know who they are, so they will find it hard to resist the suggestions and the feelings that are telling them that they are gay.
But when we begin to really hear about the new creation that we ARE through Christ's work on the cross, then we are transformed.
Everything may be telling us we are a certain way...but Paul said we look not at the visible things but the invisible. By faith!
Weare then changed from glory to glory into the same image as the thing we are beholding -Christ in you!!In all his beauty- in you! And you and He are ONE.
However...maybe we are missing the point..
Joh 9:1 As he was walking along, he observed a man who had been blind from birth.
Joh 9:2 His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that caused him to be born blind?"
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned. This happened so that God's work might be revealed in him.
How does anyone but Christ Himself know why a person is the way they are?! Ultimately everyone of us is an opportunity for God to Glorify Himself in and through us.