The purpose of Christ

[Elin]

Elduh Floyd be needin to call sum confabulashun, down et da Kingdom Hall, 'o tha 144,000, wit dem Hebroo rooters 'n da saints 'o da holy granola, blazin ekoomenikals 'o pan fry mercy!

Mercy. . .mercy. . .mercy. . .

"saints 'o da holy ganola". . .

"blazin ekoomenikals 'o pan fry mercy". . .

My keyboard got it again. . .

 

[Pumicestone]

....while even unable to ascertain if two of the vowels in Yahweh are correct. It's almost comedic.

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[TD]What’s in a name? that which we call a rose[/TD]
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[TD]By any other name would smell as sweet;[/TD]
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[JesusIsAll]

Sure makes for good comic relief. . .

What can be said? You've read all this stuff once, you've read it all, deceivers never ceasing to repeat the same errors. Nothing is ever new. It all gets down to playing Jewish or some cult. You can't take it seriously. You don't deliver the gospel on a mobius strip, make a career of the stiffnecked or trolls. If you can't have fun with it, there's nothing left, as there is no agreement with the fundamental New Testament gospel by these, ever.

 

[Elin]

Boy you can say that again....

Thank you! There is no Holy Spirit in all the dead, religious posts.

H-E-L-L-P!

 

[JesusIsAll]

Mercy. . .mercy. . .mercy. . .

"saints 'o da holy ganola". . .

"blazin ekoomenikals 'o pan fry mercy". . .

My keyboard got it again. . .

Pert near best be a holdin mah peece, den, lessin yer elecktrikals gits confoosilated, mercy!

 

[just-me]

i don't understand "the priesthood changed from Levi to Judah" -- if i'm understanding Hebrews correctly, His priesthood like Melchizadek is not by genealogy, so not transferred to another tribe - but by the direct appointment of God.
who appointed Christ, and appointed us to be found in Him. so we take part in it - but He is eternal, eternally our High priest.
He sent His Christ to be born into Judah, to rightfully be heir to the throne over Israel, but He became our priest apart from any relationship to a tribe, right?
i guess it is - the priesthood is changed. it isn't the same priesthood that Levi was appointed to.

i don't want to get into any argument about the original language of this epistle. am totally not qualified. prolly not really pertinent to the topic, but i really don't know. poking around, there is actually serious discussion about that i found on some other forums - interesting stuff that is way over my head, haha.

King David is the foreshadowing of King Jesus Christ Messiah. The order of Melchizedec is the prince of peace.
This is the order of Melchizedec
Melech = a royal king
Zedec = equity
Completeness of the name means the royal king offering equity

Each letter symbolizes a picture = a letter of the Hebrew pictorial alphabet:
מ-ל-כ-י-צ-ר-ק the royal king offering equity
מלכיצרק= Melchizedec

The giving of life by chaos and blood,
providing the way through the power to endure what was necessary,
and in turn giving mankind the hope of entering into understanding
by cutting away darkness with a sword.

7 letters – heavenly completeness
the royal king and priest of Salem i.e. greeting with happiness, shalom
peace – shalem = Jerusalem

Jerusalem=”founded by God”
“The fulfillment of what I promised through Jesus Christ”
י-ר-ו-ש-ל-י-ם
ירושלים
י the hand of receiving
ר giving of a divine force
ו by what is nailed
ש influx of the Holy Spirit
ל perfect government
ם the complete and final mighty
shalom (שלם) =peace, as in friendly greeting
shalem “ =peaceful

Jeru=giving to us Jesus Christ

First: was shalom (happy welcome or greeting)/shalem (meaning peace)
The mighty influx of the Holy Spirit motivating a perfect government

Then: “Jeru” = giving to us what was promised by what is nailed- Jesus Christ

Finally: “Jerusalem” = the fulfillment of what was promised through Jesus Christ

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. Psalm 122:6

 

[Sirk]

What can be said? You've read all this stuff once, you've read it all, deceivers never ceasing to repeat the same errors. Nothing is ever new. It all gets down to playing Jewish or some cult. You can't take it seriously. You don't deliver the gospel on a mobius strip, make a career of the stiffnecked or trolls. If you can't have fun with it, there's nothing left, as there is no agreement with the fundamental New Testament gospel by these, ever.

My thoughts exactly except much more eloquently stated than I would have. I woulda said somtin like....you can't have a party with a bunch of party poopers and expect it not to to smell like a big giant compost pit when yer dunn.

 

[Elin]

I have to believe

I have to believe Jesus in Mt 22:40.

 

[Elin]

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sister, elin,

while you are plumed-keeled-over in mercy, mercy, mercy, laughter,
perhaps you could find it in your heart to pray for your brother.

Which brother are you referring to?

 

[Rhythm801]

Well I am a believer in Christ and maybe we are not on the same level of understanding either. But that doesn't give you the right to put me down either. As far as the correct pronouncement of His name, a lot more people and versions admit that Yahweh is the correct pronouncement . The letter "J" was not in use during the time of Christ so how could he have been called "Jesus?" But if you look into the meaning behind the name Jehovah you will find that they admit it as being a mistranslation of the Tetragramaton as well. For instance the Jehovah's witnesses you could tell off too now! lol

 

[JesusIsAll]

My thoughts exactly except much more eloquently stated than I would have. I woulda said somtin like....you can't have a party with a bunch of party poopers and expect it not to to smell like a big giant compost pit when yer dunn.

Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

 

[Elin]

Where is this Levite I am not to forsake?

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.​

do you know who the physical tribes, decendents of Isreal the person is.

The sceptre shall not depart from Judah …” (Genesis 49:10).
But the birthright was Joseph’s” (1 Chronicles 5:2).

josephs name changed to Isreal,he passed name on to grandsons Manasseh and Ephraim​

all the promises and the covenants of God, all the sonship and the glory, belong sole to Israel.

“And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, which were
born unto thee in the land of Egypt before I came unto thee into
Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine”

The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads;
and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers
Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the
midst of the earth” (verses 14-16).

“Joseph is a fruitful bough,even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches [margin,
daughters] run over the wall” (verse 22).

“[T]he Almighty … shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that
lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed
above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be
on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren”

The promise of a future great nation and a company of
nations, together great for multitude, rich in national material
prosperity,fruits of the ground, possessing the “gates” of the Earth’s other nations,
spread north s e w, applies to these lads and the two tribes which sprang from them.

nothing about septer promise of one seed or grace-only physical nations,multitudes in midst of earth

Jews are from Israel(only one tribe)and not called Isreal in the bible
first time jews are metioned in the bible they are going to war with Isreal

Wherever you see the name “Israel,” or “house of Israel,” or “Samaria,”
“Jacob,” or “Rachel,” or “Ephraim” and "Manasseh" used in prophecy, remember this:
It never refers to the Jews, but to Israel

For truly, the name “Israel” was named on the sons of Joseph! (Genesis 48:16)
the "house of Israel or nation - Jacob, Isreal, samaria, Ephraim and Manasseh

Wherever they are, the Bible calls them by the national name Israel.
To the world, their identity today is lost.

But, in biblical prophecy, it is they—not the Jews—who are called Israel!
the house or tribe of Judah” Jacob - Judah, or the Jews,Jerusalem

Each tribe occupied its own land, or district.

The Levites became the priestly tribe, mingling throughout the other tribes
having no inheritance in the land and no separate territory (except for cities) of their own.

To offset this, however, the children of Joseph were divided into two tribes
Ephraim and Manasseh, thus leaving 12 distinct and separate tribes, each occupying its own territory
or province, in addition to the Levites who were sprinkled among the tribes.

All these years the birthright and the scepter remained within the one nation—the birthright
of course, being handed down through the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, the scepter with Judah.

The Scriptures plainly tell us that Israel was to lose its identity,
its language, its religion, its land, and its name.

Isreal became slaves, then lost to the world, by deforce, becoming the lost 10 tribes,

notice Isaiah 8:17: “And I will wait upon the Lord,
that hideth his face from the house of Jacob?….”​

I will need genealogical records to know who is the Levite. . .​

 

[prove-all]

the city Jerusalem

Salem means “peace.” Jerusalem means “city of peace

“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God”

Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from
the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;
first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem,
which is,King of peace”

and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one
of the mountains which I will tell thee of” (Genesis 22:1-2).

Moriah ("ordained/considered by the LORD ") is the name given to a mountain range,
the location of the sacrifice of Isaac.

“And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son”
During the time of Joshua, Jerusalem was called Jebus (Joshua 18:28; Judges 19:10)

Jerusalem was called the “city of David.”
David was the one who finally captured Jerusalem from the Jebusites (2Samuel 5:1-6).
David took the strong hold of Zion: the same is the city of David(2Samuel 5:7-10).

Here Solomon's temple was built, on the spot that had been the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite
(2 Sam. 24:24, 25; 2 Chr. 3:1)

God chose Jerusalam as his city, even when isreal sinned, but will give one tribe to thy son for David
my servant’s sake, and for Jerusalem’s sake which I have chosen” (1Kings 11:13)

Nebuchadnezzar left Jerusalem as a plowed field and in heaps of garbage.
Jerusalem was rebuilt, and then the Jews rebelled again in a.d.132-135.

Rome was so incensed that it destroyed every building constructed since a.d.70

“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves
with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it”

“Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem,
thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee,

God the Father did sacrifice His only begotten Son in Jerusalem

During the religious crusades, the “city of peace” again flowed with rivers of blood.

The Jews were prophesied to have a nation in this end time. So it had to happen!

When World War2 ended, there were many Jewish refugees with no place to call home.
Most of the world became sympathetic to these Jews. the land of Israel was declared a nation in 1948

 

[Sirk]

Well I am a believer in Christ and maybe we are not on the same level of understanding either. But that doesn't give you the right to put me down either. As far as the correct pronouncement of His name, a lot more people and versions admit that Yahweh is the correct pronouncement . The letter "J" was not in use during the time of Christ so how could he have been called "Jesus?" But if you look into the meaning behind the name Jehovah you will find that they admit it as being a mistranslation of the Tetragramaton as well. For instance the Jehovah's witnesses you could tell off too now! lol

the letter j still isn't used in Mexico but they still spell it jesus.

 

[Elin]

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[TD]What’s in a name? that which we call a rose[/TD]
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[TD]By any other name would smell as sweet;[/TD]
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Tell it ta da Hebrew rooters. . .

 

[Elin]

What can be said? You've read all this stuff once, you've read it all, deceivers never ceasing to repeat the same errors. Nothing is ever new. It all gets down to playing Jewish or some cult. You can't take it seriously. You don't deliver the gospel on a mobius strip, make a career of the stiffnecked or trolls. If you can't have fun with it, there's nothing left, as there is no agreement with the fundamental New Testament gospel by these, ever.

"Stiffnecked" bees da truf. . .and jes' whut God sed too.

 

[Rhythm801]

King David is the foreshadowing of King Jesus Christ Messiah. The order of Melchizedec is the prince of peace.
This is the order of Melchizedec
Melech = a royal king
Zedec = equity
Completeness of the name means the royal king offering equity

Each letter symbolizes a picture = a letter of the Hebrew pictorial alphabet:
מ-ל-כ-י-צ-ר-ק the royal king offering equity
מלכיצרק= Melchizedec

The giving of life by chaos and blood,
providing the way through the power to endure what was necessary,
and in turn giving mankind the hope of entering into understanding
by cutting away darkness with a sword.

7 letters – heavenly completeness
the royal king and priest of Salem i.e. greeting with happiness, shalom
peace – shalem = Jerusalem

Jerusalem=”founded by God”
“The fulfillment of what I promised through Jesus Christ”
י-ר-ו-ש-ל-י-ם
ירושלים
י the hand of receiving
ר giving of a divine force
ו by what is nailed
ש influx of the Holy Spirit
ל perfect government
ם the complete and final mighty
shalom (שלם) =peace, as in friendly greeting
shalem “ =peaceful

Jeru=giving to us Jesus Christ

First: was shalom (happy welcome or greeting)/shalem (meaning peace)
The mighty influx of the Holy Spirit motivating a perfect government

Then: “Jeru” = giving to us what was promised by what is nailed- Jesus Christ

Finally: “Jerusalem” = the fulfillment of what was promised through Jesus Christ

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. Psalm 122:6

I had Jerusalem as meaning this : Yahweh is peace And as far as Melchizedec is concerned I had read that it means King of Righteousness . Melchi meaning King and Zedec as root in righteousness.

 

[Pumicestone]

Originally Posted by Pumicestone

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[TD]What’s in a name? that which we call a rose[/TD]
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[TD]By any other name would smell as sweet;[/TD]
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Tell it ta da Hebrew rooters. . .

Whassa "Hebrew rooter" ?

Before you respond, be warned - to "root" has a very specific meaning in Australian slang.

 

[Rhythm801]

Whassa "Hebrew rooter" ?

Before you respond, be warned - to "root" has a very specific meaning in Australian slang.

Well the Hebrew root is meaning that is the origin of word in Hebrew. (linguistically) When I was allowed to go witness to the synagogues, then taught some hebrew too.

 

[Elin]

Whassa "Hebrew rooter" ?

Before you respond, be warned - to "root" has a very specific meaning in Australian slang.

Oh, dear. . .

One in the Hebrew Roots Movement.

Will that pass?