It's His 70th week of Daniel, it's His purifying of earth before He comes, it's His showdown with the devil.
there's no gap, man.
there just isn't.
the 70th followed the 69th.
konroh, i'm absolutely horrible with dates (Biblical dates)...i did miserably in math and numbers are Greek to me for the most part
the conflicting datings of books and so on; changing calendars, has all been intimidating for me.
but i'm determined to dive in again to the 70th week
the same way i skipped over the Book of Daniel because it was too complicated, when i just sat down with it and got out
history and matched it, it wasn't as hard as i thought (even though i only scratched the surface and there's still TONS to read) - the little bit i did just cleared the way to dispense with
any idea that Daniel is unfulfilled....huge chunks of it in our future type-thing.
can we do a thread on
just that 70th week and see what it was?
i've previously been satisfied to know that it (Daniel 9 - 490 years - 7x70 etc) was completely fulfilled in the 1st century, and that it is about Jesus, not The Antichrist or satan or the future. but matching
exactly the Law and the feasts and the captivities and decrees and stuff has been challenging.
it's got to be a matter of lining up
the events in Christ's life with that critical period - the 70th week; using all the appointed days and whatnot from the Law, and history and stuff. like i said, it's been something i keep putting off going all the way into because of the math & datings that conflict...but since actually reading through the book of Daniel itself, and seeing history match...it might not be as hard now.
the Day of Atonement might be a good place to start, because if Jesus didn't fulfill that, we're in bad shape, seems to me.
can we reason through this together?
because i wanna be able to have even more detail on those crucial years, and settle the 70th week issue.
is it possible to just set aside (on one thread) the idea that any part of the 70th week is
not fulfilled, and see what happens?
if it doesn't match, anybody who wants to take back part of the 70th week and place in the future will do so.
but surely, if all the things in the Law were types, and pointed to Jesus, and the 70 weeks were determined for ending all of Israel's transgression, by the Coming of their Redeemer...it MUST have a match in Christ's life.
if any part of that 70th week is undone, we're toast.
......
example in new thread coming (
70th week fulfilled):
so, was Jesus
not the fulfillment of the Goat at His baptism; then the Lamb at the Cross?
Leviticus 15
The Scapegoat
20"When he finishes atoning for the holy place and the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall offer the live goat. 21"Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the sons of Israel and all their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and he shall lay them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands in readiness. 22"The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a solitary land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness
then we know about the Lamb sacrificed at Calvary.
because i'm looking at this right now - from a
dispensational site, which
still places that 70th week in the future (i think i know why now - we can look at that on the new thread):
"The high priest normally does not perform the Temple sacrifices, but
during the week leading up to Yom Kippur, he serves beside the priests, and on the Day of Atonement performs all of the services alone.
He stays the entire week before Yom Kippur in the Temple area, and is sprinkled twice with the ashes of a heifer to make sure he has not somehow become unclean by touching a dead body (Num. 19:1-13)."
they go on to say (which i
totally disagree with):
"The Fulfillment
The Day of Atonement foreshadows two significant events: Jesus’ sacrificial death, and Israel’s repentance at the Messiah’s return. “They will look at Me whom they pierced” and repent, the Lord declares in Zech. 12:10. God will deal with the nation’s sins and remember them no more (Isa. 43:25; Jer. 31:34). Isaiah prophesied that the nation would be born spiritually in a day (Isa. 66:8; Rom. 11:26-27).
This will be the prophetic fulfillment of the Day of Atonement as Israel comes face to face with its Messiah at the end of Daniel’s “70th week” (Dan. 9:24-27), a seven-year tribulation period that begins with the rise of an evil world ruler known in Jewish theology as Armilus and in Christian theology as Antichrist...."
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Jesus in the feasts of Israel
but what if that's wrong?
what if THIS is what happened?
if it is, we should be able to make it match, because everything the law typified would HAVE to come together in Jesus.
okay....new thread.
hopefully all the future gap and half-gap stuff can wait (lol...doubt it)
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