Your arrogance knows no bounds, and your humility is false. You aren't the appointed teacher to anyone on this forum, even though some may learn the odd point from you. You have continually ignored the scriptural defense others have provided in favour of their position(s), so your claims are vacuous. Just because someone disagrees with you DOES NOT MEAN that they are incorrect. You may be the incorrect one! Take a dose of that "I am nothing" humility and stop alluding to others as ignorant, uneducated, little ones, children, misguided, off-course, or anything else similar.
Just saying so does not make it so.
The scripture references you guys used I have explained away whereas you continue to ignore the scripture that opposes what you preach about using tongues without interpretation which was also gained by receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation or in the case of others, receiving the Holy Spirit "again" in order to get this tongue that comes without interpretation.
You guys sometimes oppose each other in opposing me and you guys are not listening to one another when you oppose me or when I correct others ( by the grace of God only ) that differ from what you are defending about tongues and how you got it; you just ignore their "error".
Jesus says no good tree will produce an evil fruit and no evil tree will produce a good fruit.
That as applied means there is no receiving the Holy Spirit separate from salvation; if you oppose those who are slain in the Spirit and the holy laughter movement, then you oppose yourself because they claim they got the receiving of the Holy Spirit the same way you guys get tongues without interpretation. That is Jesus telling you that you are also wrong.
Matthew 7:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[SUP] 15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.[SUP] 16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?[SUP] 17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.[SUP] 18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.[SUP] 19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
This supernatural tongue of vain & profane babbling that you guys assume that when tongues comes without interpretation, then it must be for private use, has been found in the world before Pentecost and it is after the workings of Satan of which I have no doubt will be the ecumenical means to unite the world in one religion by for during the great tribulation.
You cannot draw the line of distinction against that which you oppose in slain in the "Spirit" or the holy laughter movement because they do the same thing; seek to receive the Holy Spirit "again" but after other signs too.
Therefore there is no receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation. That is the tradition taught of us plain & simple.
2 Thessalonians 2:[SUP]13 [/SUP]But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because
God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.[SUP] 15 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
Now can you say that is what you are preaching when you got tongues not by the tradition taught of us? No. You cannot. You are preaching another Jesus as in another "spirit" to receive and thus preaching another calling and thus another gospel... the gospel of receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation by a sign of tongues which Paul says tongues would never serve as a sign to already saved believers to seek after especially in seeking to receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation or "again" as some tongue speakers contends.
So I have just cause to warn others not to blindly follow this other calling nor pay heed to this other gospel of tongues, because there is no other calling and thus there is no other gospel since we have been saved and thus filled by the Spirit at the calling of the gospel when we believed in the Truth.