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A leading question which is deceptive. Are you Muslim? It will help me to understand your POV if I know.
I understand your perspective, but my intention was to gather information for better understanding.
Yes, I'm Muslim

God gave authority over the earth to Adam and Eve. Adam gave that authority to Satan. Satan corrupted Adam's nature to the extent that Adam was estranged from God.

God has never rescinded that authority. Instead, He sent His only Son to become the last Adam and so recover fallen mankind to Himself. However, the vast majority of people reject Christ so they stay under the control of Satan. Satan is the Destroyer, the Murderer and Deceiver. He is ultimately responsible for the evil on the earth. However, he can do nothing without the cooperation of people.

God has a plan and purpose which He is working out for the good of those who follow Him and the destruction of those who do not. People make that choice. People can either seek the broad path to destruction or the marrow path that leads to life. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Receive Him and live. Reject Him and stay dead in trespass and sin.

It's not looking good for you. The one requirement to be saved by God is an honest heart. You reject the truth about natural issues and insult those who try to help you. Not a good start. Still, nothing is impossible for God. I do not know you and I have nothing against you personally. I hope and pray that you see the light and come to Jesus.
Thank you very much for this informative information. I find a similar concept in Islam: when Adam disobeyed God, He sent him to Earth and expelled him from Paradise. Adam, Eve, and Satan were all expelled to Earth.

Can I understand from your reply that criminals and those who continue to commit sins and terrible acts will end up in Hell on Judgment Day if they die before the coming of Jesus and do not repent?

Another question please, is it not acceptable for someone to commit sins and terrible acts while claiming to believe in and follow Jesus? They don't seem to align, do they?
 

Gideon300

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I understand your perspective, but my intention was to gather information for better understanding.
Yes, I'm Muslim



Thank you very much for this informative information. I find a similar concept in Islam: when Adam disobeyed God, He sent him to Earth and expelled him from Paradise. Adam, Eve, and Satan were all expelled to Earth.

Can I understand from your reply that criminals and those who continue to commit sins and terrible acts will end up in Hell on Judgment Day if they die before the coming of Jesus and do not repent?

Another question please, is it not acceptable for someone to commit sins and terrible acts while claiming to believe in and follow Jesus? They don't seem to align, do they?
Every person in born a sinner. God is perfect in every way. No one can match His standard of perfection. The vast majority of people think that they are good. They are wrong. God's judgement is not what most people understand it to be. God determines if person is spiritually alive or spiritually dead. Those who have not accepted Christ in this lifetime are dead spiritually. Those who have accepted Christ are alive. Those who are alive are received into heaven. Those who reject Christ are rejected themselves and will spend eternity in hell.

This may seem harsh, but see it from God's point of view. He sent His own Son, who was without sin, to die for the sins of mankind. There is no greater love, no greater sacrifice and no greater gift. There is no more that God can do. Would you have a dead person in your home for your whole life? Sounds disgusting, doesn't it. God also will not have the dead in His home. And sinners will not be able to tolerate heaven anyway. They will not want to be there.

The wonderful thing about being a Christian is that you receive a new nature. The old, dead spirit is removed and a new, live spirit replaces it. I can still remember the moment this happened. I did not understand it, but my life began to change from that moment. I had many problems that needed to be overcome. I still do, but I am not the same person as I was 50+ years ago. Christianity is new life in Christ, not just a ticket to heaven when you leave this life.

No one gets immediate perfection. We should be changing as we learn more of what it means to be Christian. Some change is immediate, some takes time. The devil is real and Christians are under attack from him. Real Christians no longer want to sin. The new nature we receive from God has new desires and new motivation.

I had no idea what being a Christian entailed when I first was saved. I heard the good news from my boss one night. I was scared to death when I realised that I was a sinner and that I would face hell. Until that moment, I thought I was a good person. A depressed, suicidal drunk, but a good person. How self deceived can you be? I gladly accepted Christ.

The first thing i realised was that I was forgiven. A great weight of guilt lifted off me. The second thing was that I had found what I was searching for. Until then, I'd had no meaning to life. The great Solomon said that without God, all is meaningless. I knew nothing of the Bible, but that was how I felt. It's the human condition. Life can be challenging, but there is always a purpose, and a hope for the future. I wish that the whole world would accept Christ. Life would be vastly better for everyone.
 
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Every person in born a sinner. God is perfect in every way. No one can match His standard of perfection. The vast majority of people think that they are good. They are wrong. God's judgement is not what most people understand it to be. God determines if person is spiritually alive or spiritually dead. Those who have not accepted Christ in this lifetime are dead spiritually. Those who have accepted Christ are alive. Those who are alive are received into heaven. Those who reject Christ are rejected themselves and will spend eternity in hell.

This may seem harsh, but see it from God's point of view. He sent His own Son, who was without sin, to die for the sins of mankind. There is no greater love, no greater sacrifice and no greater gift. There is no more that God can do. Would you have a dead person in your home for your whole life? Sounds disgusting, doesn't it. God also will not have the dead in His home. And sinners will not be able to tolerate heaven anyway. They will not want to be there.

The wonderful thing about being a Christian is that you receive a new nature. The old, dead spirit is removed and a new, live spirit replaces it. I can still remember the moment this happened. I did not understand it, but my life began to change from that moment. I had many problems that needed to be overcome. I still do, but I am not the same person as I was 50+ years ago. Christianity is new life in Christ, not just a ticket to heaven when you leave this life.

No one gets immediate perfection. We should be changing as we learn more of what it means to be Christian. Some change is immediate, some takes time. The devil is real and Christians are under attack from him. Real Christians no longer want to sin. The new nature we receive from God has new desires and new motivation.

I had no idea what being a Christian entailed when I first was saved. I heard the good news from my boss one night. I was scared to death when I realised that I was a sinner and that I would face hell. Until that moment, I thought I was a good person. A depressed, suicidal drunk, but a good person. How self deceived can you be? I gladly accepted Christ.

The first thing i realised was that I was forgiven. A great weight of guilt lifted off me. The second thing was that I had found what I was searching for. Until then, I'd had no meaning to life. The great Solomon said that without God, all is meaningless. I knew nothing of the Bible, but that was how I felt. It's the human condition. Life can be challenging, but there is always a purpose, and a hope for the future. I wish that the whole world would accept Christ. Life would be vastly better for everyone.
You shared nice personal experience.
Thank you
 
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Yes, Christian denominations are like various brands of gas: you put them in the tank and they all burn. :^)

More biblically: A crisis that threatened a Philippian jailer with death prompted him to ask Paul and Silas the most important question in life: “What must I do to be saved?” (ACTS 16:30) This question is most important, because—as sinful and mortal souls—we need saving from corruption, both moral and physical. We need saving from physical death if we value or enjoy life, and we need saving from immorality or evil-doing if it results in unhappy existence, especially after this lifetime.

The reply of Paul and Silas was this: “Believe in the Lord Jesus.” (ACTS 16:31) This is God's requirement for salvation (GRFS) in a nutshell. Jesus Himself expressed GRFS even more succinctly using three, four and five letter words: “Ask… seek… knock…” (MT 7:7). As Hebrews 11:6 states: “he [God] rewards those who earnestly seek him” (cf. IS 45:19).

Acts 10:43~ All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.
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