“... seal of God in their foreheads” means what?
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Now that is amazing, for the scripture says:
"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel."
God is not only specifying the exact number, but their identity! And you guys come along and say "144,000, a number which no man can count," which you just counted. As further proof that the number is literal, the following group is specified as being a number which no man can count, demonstrating that God is distinction between the two.
1st Group:
How many are sealed = 144,000
Who are they = 12,000 each from the twelve tribes Israel
2nd Group:
How many = A number too large to count
Who are they = From every nation, tribe, people and language (Gentiles)
The proper exegeses is to interpret these verses in the literal sense, as there is nothing in the context to lead the reader to apply a symbolic meaning for these numbers. As further proof that the 144,000 is literal, scripture is consistent in referring to the same number again in Rev.14.
Why in the world would you read the description of their numbers and then ignore them? Does God have to end all of His literal scriptures with "No, I really mean that!"
There are those who do the same thing with Israel, claiming that they represent spiritual Israel, meaning the church. why don't you guys start believing what you are reading until a symbolic interpretation is obvious? All you are doing is distorting scripture.
"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel."
God is not only specifying the exact number, but their identity! And you guys come along and say "144,000, a number which no man can count," which you just counted. As further proof that the number is literal, the following group is specified as being a number which no man can count, demonstrating that God is distinction between the two.
1st Group:
How many are sealed = 144,000
Who are they = 12,000 each from the twelve tribes Israel
2nd Group:
How many = A number too large to count
Who are they = From every nation, tribe, people and language (Gentiles)
The proper exegeses is to interpret these verses in the literal sense, as there is nothing in the context to lead the reader to apply a symbolic meaning for these numbers. As further proof that the 144,000 is literal, scripture is consistent in referring to the same number again in Rev.14.
Why in the world would you read the description of their numbers and then ignore them? Does God have to end all of His literal scriptures with "No, I really mean that!"
There are those who do the same thing with Israel, claiming that they represent spiritual Israel, meaning the church. why don't you guys start believing what you are reading until a symbolic interpretation is obvious? All you are doing is distorting scripture.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
I see that a little differently remembering; .Without parables the Holy Spirit ,Christ, spoke not to the multitude (every one) hiding the spiritual understanding from the lost and Revelation is no exception to the law of interpretation.
The word signified (semaino )I am learning is from where we get the word Semantics. The angel bringing the revelation of God, God interpretation signified it, as a sign not as a real life experience.
Semantics is the study and analysis of how language is used figuratively and literally to produce meaning.
Strongs lexicon. 4591 semaino {say-mah'-ee-no} from sema (a mark, of uncertain derivation); TDNT - 7:262,1015; v
AV - signify 6; 6 1) to give a sign, to signify, indicate 2) to make known
1) to give a sign, to signify, indicate 2) to make known
Thereforefore being a number no man could (impossible) count (not allowed to) seeing numbering is a work of the father of lies, who walks by sight and not faith the unseen, eternal
2Sa 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
No man could count
I would think: “no man could number” would signify a parable is in view. It is in respect to all nations, to include the Hebrew nation, all tongues. Clothed with white robes to indicate that they had a righteousness not of their own selves .therefore if any man has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to God.
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
The same number no man could count using ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
A thousand is used throughout scripture to represent an unknown as to the fullness of what so ever is in view.
It’s the kind of un-seen seal all believers are sealed with.
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
One hundred and forty four thousand or ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands or is it signified and could be both as a number no man is permitted to count. ?