“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever" (Heb. 13:8)

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What is meant by the expression “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever" in Heb. 13:8

It does not mean that Jesus always acts in the same way or is always doing the same work; nor does it mean that He is always of the same nature, for He was first a spirit being, the Archangel. “In a beginning [so the Greek] was the Logos, and the Logos was with the God, and the Logos was a god [a mighty one]” (John 1:1: see Diaglott). He was “the firstborn of every creature” (Col. 1:15), “the beginning of the creation of God” (Rev. 3:14). In due time He was made flesh (John 1:14; Gal. 4:4), i.e., a human being, then died and was raised to the Divine nature and given a name above every name (Phil. 2:6-10; Heb. 1:3, 4). But He has been and is the same person in all three natures.

Therefore the “yesterday” of Heb. 13:8 does not refer to past eternity. We understand that it refers to the Jewish Age, which is Biblically spoken of as a day (Isa. 65:2; Rom. 10:21), while eternity is never called a day a yesterday is a day before a present day. But a day has a beginning; so has a yesterday; so the yesterday here cannot mean duration without a beginning, i.e., eternity. The days of Heb. 13:8 are evidently ages, as is proved by the Greek expression here for “forever,” which is rendered literally “for the ages.” Therefore, the word “today” in this verse apparently refers to the Gospel Age, also called a day (Acts 13:33; Rom. 8:36; 2 Cor. 6:2; Heb. 3:13, 15). And this is followed, not by the word tomorrow, for this would imply only one Age (the Millennial Age) for Jesus’ future existence. He will live forever—”for the ages,” a term expressive of eternity.
 

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What is meant by the expression “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever" in Heb. 13:8
When I first read this passage that you had posted, I thought to myself, "What is changeless about Christ is His Work upon our hearts." I mean, the world changes, ideologies change, thus wars break out, etc. All things change, but what does not change is the Gospel . . . the Plan of God. What am I referring to? The same thing that I always refer to . . . the Circumcision of Christ. The Circumcision of Christ is His Operation of the heart where He alone separates us from the Adamic Curse. Until this separation has taken place, Salvation is impossible. Therefore, and as Scripture points over and over again, this is the Purpose of Christ . . . to Circumcise our unregenerate hearts of the Curse of the Lord that was established in early Genesis when Adam and Eve disobeyed. So the Purpose of Christ is to perform Holy Work, to give sight to those who are blind, yet claim that they can see. And in by performing this Holy Work, there is a Holy Effect. And those who receive this Holy Work, they are Transformed, just as Paul clearly teaches will happen in Romans 12:2. The behavioral change of a Transformed person is evident, for they will love even their enemies . . . the example of Christ on the Cross.

And so as I went to the Bible to read what came before verse 8 of Hebrews 13, nothing stood out in particular, but look at verse 9:

Hebrews 13:9 NKJV - "Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them."

The Heart that is established by Grace is the Purpose of Christ and it is the Work of Christ . . . who is God in the flesh. So when God wrote:

Exodus 33:19 NKJV - "Then He said, "I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." - God was referring to the Circumcision Christ. It is important that we all realize that there is nothing more Gracious or Compassionate than to be separated from the Adamic Curse, or, to have the Veil removed, or, to receive the Circumcision of Christ . . . this is Grace.

Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. ... 13 "You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."

Prior to the life and death of physical Christ, he was still the "I AM" who existed before Abraham was born. And it was Christ, who is God, who was Circumcising hearts from the beginning. God was separating certain people from the Curse from the beginning, and we know this since Scripture confirms that Abel was the first Prophet of God. No one can be a Righteous, Holy Prophet of God yet remain under the Lord's Curse.

So what is timeless and changeless about Christ is His Purpose, His Work, and the Effect of His Work. This is the Heart of the Gospel.