“Neither Jew nor Greek”
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I can’t understand “christians” who make comments like this🤦🏼♂️ its bad enough that most “christians” admittedly have never read the scripture cover to cover but these same “christians” have never studied history or read the works of the great historians of biblical times both Roman and Greek writers such as Strabo, Herodotus or Dionysius, Diodorus Siculus, Josephus or Pliny just to name a few.
Most “christians” cant even tell you the promises made to Abraham referred to by Jesus and the apostles of which they believed God had fulfilled these promises, yet “christians” hold so dearly to these doctrines of men that deny these promises were kept by God. 😕
Many times Ive tried to “wake up” my brethren to the reality of historical context citing some of the historians who uphold the biblical truth understood by the earliest apostolic church before it was hijacked by Rome and the same Jews who Paul called “the enemies of all mankind”🛡⚔️
Before making a fool of yourself, responding without first reading the very scriptures you proclaim to believe but also verifying the historical facts being presented. Then you can add something of value to your brethren instead of misleading them further in ignorance and ego.
“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”
Matthew 12:30,31
Jesus
Most “christians” cant even tell you the promises made to Abraham referred to by Jesus and the apostles of which they believed God had fulfilled these promises, yet “christians” hold so dearly to these doctrines of men that deny these promises were kept by God. 😕
Many times Ive tried to “wake up” my brethren to the reality of historical context citing some of the historians who uphold the biblical truth understood by the earliest apostolic church before it was hijacked by Rome and the same Jews who Paul called “the enemies of all mankind”🛡⚔️
Before making a fool of yourself, responding without first reading the very scriptures you proclaim to believe but also verifying the historical facts being presented. Then you can add something of value to your brethren instead of misleading them further in ignorance and ego.
“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”
Matthew 12:30,31
Jesus
The Samaritans were mostly of mixed race but we have examples like the woman at the well whom Jesus spoke with or Cornelius of whom Peter saught out after receiving the vision of God.
These Samaritans were Israelites but couldnt go to the temple in Jerusalem because they could not prove their descent. The Assyrian seige of the northern kingdom destroyed the geneological records.
These Samaritans were Israelites but couldnt go to the temple in Jerusalem because they could not prove their descent. The Assyrian seige of the northern kingdom destroyed the geneological records.
I do get the promises.
The promises fulfilled by Abraham's SEED = Christ.
If the people who were in exile in Babylon struggled proving their identity, how much now after 2000 years? Impossible.
Even IF this story about the spartans being of the same 'stock' as jews (God made all nations of ONE BLOOD anyway btw) what does it matter? Who cares?
In the New Covenant the gospel goes out to ALL nations, God has redeemed a people from ALL nations, tribes, languages, not just the israelites.
Most "christians" are correct on this, most "israelitish" cults are INCORRECT.
The promises fulfilled by Abraham's SEED = Christ.
If the people who were in exile in Babylon struggled proving their identity, how much now after 2000 years? Impossible.
Even IF this story about the spartans being of the same 'stock' as jews (God made all nations of ONE BLOOD anyway btw) what does it matter? Who cares?
In the New Covenant the gospel goes out to ALL nations, God has redeemed a people from ALL nations, tribes, languages, not just the israelites.
Most "christians" are correct on this, most "israelitish" cults are INCORRECT.
The typical denominational Christian understanding of Galatians 3:16 is not only contrary to the original intent of its author, Paul of Tarsus, but it is also contrary to all of the promises of Scripture. It goes so far as to endeavor to make void all of the promises of Scripture which we see that Yahweh had made to Abraham and to the children of Israel exclusively, in spite of Paul's actual words confirming them, but especially in spite of the words of Yahweh God Himself.
In Galatians chapter 3 Paul is explaining that the promises of Yahweh God fulfilled in Christ are indeed going to be kept according to what Yahweh had already promised to Abraham as it is recorded in Genesis, which ensured Abraham that his seed would become many nations and as the stars of heaven, and that they would inherit the world as well as inheriting his blessing. This is what Abraham believed, so this belief alone is the “faith of Abraham”. Paul also said, in Galatians 3:15, that the covenant could not be amended or added to. There is no man capable of adding to or amending the promises of God. There is no changing the nature or definition of Abraham's seed, and there is no adding to the promises of a New Covenant as they are found in Jeremiah or Ezekiel. Paul once again reinforces this statement in Galatians 3:17.
“Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,”h meaning One, who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16
Here is the common translation which has been deceptively mistranslated and if we just use logic we know that Abraham had 7 other sons yet the promises were not made to them but “in Isaac shall thy seed be called” as meaning “one” and where they deceptively mistranslated “who is Christ” the greek word being “Christos” in context is translated “annointed” or “who is annointed”
“Now to Abraham the promises have been spoken, and to his seed. It does not say “and to seeds”, as of many; but as of one: “and to your seed,” which is anointed.
Galatians 3:16
This is a study in of itself and we can go deeper but i wanted to addresss the “one blood” quote
Not all of the oldest manuscripts even include the word “blood” but instead “from one” which denotes Adam through Noah describing the Genesis 10 table of nations.
There were also the nations not descended from Adam that settled in Canaan. Just reading the Enoch literature shows that not all races of men were born from Adam. Most of the Hamites had mingled their seed with the Hitittes and Canaanites becoming abomintions unto God which explains why the gospel was not sent there.
Jesus affirms that in the judgement those races not created of Adam woild be uprooted by the Father.
“But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up.”
Matthew 15:13
In Galatians chapter 3 Paul is explaining that the promises of Yahweh God fulfilled in Christ are indeed going to be kept according to what Yahweh had already promised to Abraham as it is recorded in Genesis, which ensured Abraham that his seed would become many nations and as the stars of heaven, and that they would inherit the world as well as inheriting his blessing. This is what Abraham believed, so this belief alone is the “faith of Abraham”. Paul also said, in Galatians 3:15, that the covenant could not be amended or added to. There is no man capable of adding to or amending the promises of God. There is no changing the nature or definition of Abraham's seed, and there is no adding to the promises of a New Covenant as they are found in Jeremiah or Ezekiel. Paul once again reinforces this statement in Galatians 3:17.
“Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,”h meaning One, who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16
Here is the common translation which has been deceptively mistranslated and if we just use logic we know that Abraham had 7 other sons yet the promises were not made to them but “in Isaac shall thy seed be called” as meaning “one” and where they deceptively mistranslated “who is Christ” the greek word being “Christos” in context is translated “annointed” or “who is annointed”
“Now to Abraham the promises have been spoken, and to his seed. It does not say “and to seeds”, as of many; but as of one: “and to your seed,” which is anointed.
Galatians 3:16
This is a study in of itself and we can go deeper but i wanted to addresss the “one blood” quote
Not all of the oldest manuscripts even include the word “blood” but instead “from one” which denotes Adam through Noah describing the Genesis 10 table of nations.
There were also the nations not descended from Adam that settled in Canaan. Just reading the Enoch literature shows that not all races of men were born from Adam. Most of the Hamites had mingled their seed with the Hitittes and Canaanites becoming abomintions unto God which explains why the gospel was not sent there.
Jesus affirms that in the judgement those races not created of Adam woild be uprooted by the Father.
“But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up.”
Matthew 15:13
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he’s obviously talking about gentiles looking at what he’s saying
“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. ….that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:8-9, 14, 26-29 KJV
“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.”
Romans 10:12
“where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.”
Colossians 3:11 KJV
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
Romans 1:16-17 KJV
“tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
Romans 2:9-10 KJV
“even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:22 KJV
“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. ….that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:8-9, 14, 26-29 KJV
“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.”
Romans 10:12
“where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.”
Colossians 3:11 KJV
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
Romans 1:16-17 KJV
“tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
Romans 2:9-10 KJV
“even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:22 KJV
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Genesis 3:20
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
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amen it lead here to man’s fall and the dividing of nations and peoples
“And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.”
Genesis 11:6-
Later however when Abram the Hebrew was promised of God he was not promised a single nation of Hebrews but that he Abraham the Hebrew would be father of many nations
“and I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
Genesis 12:3 KJV
abrahams promise was never just for Hebrews it was for all the people on earth and would be fulfilled here
“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. ……that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
…For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:8-9, 14, 26-29 KJV
“and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
Genesis 22:18 KJV
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16 KJV
“His name shall endure for ever: His name shall be continued as long as the sun: And men shall be blessed in him: All nations shall call him blessed.”
Psalm 72:17 KJV
“and I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;”
Genesis 26:4 KJV
at he Jews were chosen at a time God was hiding his face from mankind’s sinfulness all were condemned and then Israel was chosen to lead everyone on earth to Christ through the law . Eventually we’re being brought back together as a single people under God like in genesis
Just as he confounded thier language before and scattered man abroad
“Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?”
Acts 2:6-7 KJV
Eves promised seed would overcome the serpent and bless her offspring
“And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.”
Genesis 11:6-
Later however when Abram the Hebrew was promised of God he was not promised a single nation of Hebrews but that he Abraham the Hebrew would be father of many nations
“and I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
Genesis 12:3 KJV
abrahams promise was never just for Hebrews it was for all the people on earth and would be fulfilled here
“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. ……that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
…For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:8-9, 14, 26-29 KJV
“and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
Genesis 22:18 KJV
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16 KJV
“His name shall endure for ever: His name shall be continued as long as the sun: And men shall be blessed in him: All nations shall call him blessed.”
Psalm 72:17 KJV
“and I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;”
Genesis 26:4 KJV
at he Jews were chosen at a time God was hiding his face from mankind’s sinfulness all were condemned and then Israel was chosen to lead everyone on earth to Christ through the law . Eventually we’re being brought back together as a single people under God like in genesis
Just as he confounded thier language before and scattered man abroad
“Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?”
Acts 2:6-7 KJV
Eves promised seed would overcome the serpent and bless her offspring
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There is no changing the nature or definition of Abraham's seed”
Jesus Christ is the seed of Abrahams promise
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16 KJV
Being born a Hebrew doesn’t make anyone Abraham’s seed , accepting Christ Jesus and receiving his spirit makes one a child of God and seed of Abraham’s promise . Bieng born of an Israelite mother and father means zero now accepting Christ the seed of Abraham and his gospel preached to all people is everything now and to be e seed of Abraham an hier of his promises this is the only way
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ ( Abraham’s seed ) have put on Christ.( Abraham’s seed )
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: ( he’s removing the flesh identity ) for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.” ( and telling us our new one who believe )
Galatians 3:26-29 KJV
To summarize
“Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”
2 Corinthians 5:16-19 KJV
There is no changing the nature or definition of Abraham's seed”
Jesus Christ is the seed of Abrahams promise
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:16 KJV
Being born a Hebrew doesn’t make anyone Abraham’s seed , accepting Christ Jesus and receiving his spirit makes one a child of God and seed of Abraham’s promise . Bieng born of an Israelite mother and father means zero now accepting Christ the seed of Abraham and his gospel preached to all people is everything now and to be e seed of Abraham an hier of his promises this is the only way
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ ( Abraham’s seed ) have put on Christ.( Abraham’s seed )
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: ( he’s removing the flesh identity ) for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.” ( and telling us our new one who believe )
Galatians 3:26-29 KJV
To summarize
“Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”
2 Corinthians 5:16-19 KJV
Gal 3:26-29 makes it clear that we are Abraham's seed through Christ.
By Christ we are all one.
The blood line means nothing.
We choose to be children of God or Children of the Devil.
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
We can choose to be a child of God or Not
If we are children of Abraham it is only because of Christ.
By Christ we are all one.
The blood line means nothing.
We choose to be children of God or Children of the Devil.
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
We can choose to be a child of God or Not
If we are children of Abraham it is only because of Christ.
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One vine with branches, that some were originally there and then us grafted in and no one but no one can tell them apart. This " never was to be understood as Jew nor non-Jew and yet most believers are repeating this concept because their pastors are teaching it this way." For me its not true. There is a known man of God that said a few years ago "who has ever read the bible and came away with pre-trib?" He said the same thing you did here, its was only because of your pastors or what not. Yet here I am as so many others are. Me I can not prove it so I watch and pray and ready now.
Back then the Jewish view, they of all people were the religious elite. They and they alone knew the true God and were His covenant people. All others were under God's curse. Now from the viewpoint of the Greeks, only those who were ethnically Greeks were the cultural elite. The rest were barbarians. So as Paul said "neither bond (slave) nor free". The Galatians understood the great difference of both the social and legal status of those who were either slaves or free. Anyway Paul said in this chapter (29) all who are in Christ are spiritually Abraham's descendants and hence are heirs with him of the blessings God promised him., namely, salvation by grace alone, the gospel which Paul had faithful shared with the Galatians.
Some still see through the eyes of the flesh not the spirit. That "new man, new creation?"
Back then the Jewish view, they of all people were the religious elite. They and they alone knew the true God and were His covenant people. All others were under God's curse. Now from the viewpoint of the Greeks, only those who were ethnically Greeks were the cultural elite. The rest were barbarians. So as Paul said "neither bond (slave) nor free". The Galatians understood the great difference of both the social and legal status of those who were either slaves or free. Anyway Paul said in this chapter (29) all who are in Christ are spiritually Abraham's descendants and hence are heirs with him of the blessings God promised him., namely, salvation by grace alone, the gospel which Paul had faithful shared with the Galatians.
Some still see through the eyes of the flesh not the spirit. That "new man, new creation?"