“The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
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Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
People are quick to view the law as curse only and don't understand what the law really is.
Look at David, he is praising God for his decrees not grumbling because he cannot keep them. He found joy in his laws not condemnation why is this? it is because he knew of God's grace and because he found the more he meditated and followed his laws with his whole heart the more joy he found in it. The Law is a curse for the wicked but a blessing for pure in heart, I share David's spirit and heart towards the law, when I follow it with all my heart and out of love and respect for God my life is far richer and I find far much joy in him than I ever could by any other means. I am a witness at how God's law is a blessing and a joy I praise God for his decrees because they show me the way to go they teach me who he is and how I ought to be as well they are not a stumbling block for me rather they help me reach greater heights.
I pray that God might write his laws on my heart every day and that my heart would joyfully follow them for I have found joy in them not condemnation
People are quick to view the law as curse only and don't understand what the law really is.
Look at David, he is praising God for his decrees not grumbling because he cannot keep them. He found joy in his laws not condemnation why is this? it is because he knew of God's grace and because he found the more he meditated and followed his laws with his whole heart the more joy he found in it. The Law is a curse for the wicked but a blessing for pure in heart, I share David's spirit and heart towards the law, when I follow it with all my heart and out of love and respect for God my life is far richer and I find far much joy in him than I ever could by any other means. I am a witness at how God's law is a blessing and a joy I praise God for his decrees because they show me the way to go they teach me who he is and how I ought to be as well they are not a stumbling block for me rather they help me reach greater heights.
I pray that God might write his laws on my heart every day and that my heart would joyfully follow them for I have found joy in them not condemnation
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
David was blameless for eating the shewbread because it was lawful for a preist to eat the shewbread. There's only one way he could have been blameless, David was a priest just like we as Christians are priests.
Mark 2:25-26 KJV
And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? [26] How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
David was blameless for eating the shewbread because it was lawful for a preist to eat the shewbread. There's only one way he could have been blameless, David was a priest just like we as Christians are priests.
Mark 2:25-26 KJV
And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? [26] How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
I think you misunderstand what it means to be (under the law)
No one is above God's law, do you think that his law was done away with? that we can kill and steal and have other god's before him? If we love him we will obey his commandments, notice how when Jesus said this he said if you (love) me not if you fear me or if you wish to receive salvation but if we love him.
I love his law and follow it because I love him, my love for him motivates me to follow his decrees and because I follow it out of love not fear not only do I find freedom in it but true joy. God's words are everlasting and his decrees will stand until the end of times Jesus himself said he did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it.
To be under the law is for the law to have power over you which as you can see from David this power over us and being free in it is entirely upon our own hearts. David was under the law but not under it as in it had power over him and put him in chains rather he purposely placed himself under it because of how highly he loved and respected God
If David was a Christian then he can't be under the law. 
No one is above God's law, do you think that his law was done away with? that we can kill and steal and have other god's before him? If we love him we will obey his commandments, notice how when Jesus said this he said if you (love) me not if you fear me or if you wish to receive salvation but if we love him.
I love his law and follow it because I love him, my love for him motivates me to follow his decrees and because I follow it out of love not fear not only do I find freedom in it but true joy. God's words are everlasting and his decrees will stand until the end of times Jesus himself said he did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it.
To be under the law is for the law to have power over you which as you can see from David this power over us and being free in it is entirely upon our own hearts. David was under the law but not under it as in it had power over him and put him in chains rather he purposely placed himself under it because of how highly he loved and respected God
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
I love the law too and I think it's great but my problem is I can't keep it perfectly... I still fall short. My relationship with God is not "performance" base, God still loves me the same whether I break the law or not.
I love the law too and I think it's great but my problem is I can't keep it perfectly... I still fall short. My relationship with God is not "performance" base, God still loves me the same whether I break the law or not.
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
David wasn't under the jurisdiction of the law and therefore there was mercy and forgiveness because David's faith was in the coming Messiah. David's sin never caused him to be lost. Those who teach such believe in yo-yo salvation, i.e., every time you sin you are no longer in a saved condition.
The Jews of the Exodus (freed slaves) had been raised in the Egyptian religions. All Pagan religions teach a form of salvation by works. Hence the Jews at Mt. Sinai entered the Old Covenant.
The terms of the "old covenant" were, Obey and live: "If a man do, he shall even live in them" (Eze. 20: 11; Lev. 18: 5); but "cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them" (Deut. 27: 26).
The man collecting firewood was working and therefore breaking the Sabbath command to rest. Since he sinned under the jurisdiction of the law he had to forfeit his life.
David wasn't under the jurisdiction of the law and therefore there was mercy and forgiveness because David's faith was in the coming Messiah. David's sin never caused him to be lost. Those who teach such believe in yo-yo salvation, i.e., every time you sin you are no longer in a saved condition.
The Jews of the Exodus (freed slaves) had been raised in the Egyptian religions. All Pagan religions teach a form of salvation by works. Hence the Jews at Mt. Sinai entered the Old Covenant.
The terms of the "old covenant" were, Obey and live: "If a man do, he shall even live in them" (Eze. 20: 11; Lev. 18: 5); but "cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them" (Deut. 27: 26).
The man collecting firewood was working and therefore breaking the Sabbath command to rest. Since he sinned under the jurisdiction of the law he had to forfeit his life.
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
No, God's law (the 10 commandments) were not abolished. Christ came to the fulfill the law for you and me. That was His primary mission: to legally answer the demands of His Father's law. In so doing Christ legally delivered us from under law.
Why? Why did we need to delivered from under law?
Because no matter how much you grow in grace you'll never be good enough. The law demands perfection. To be under the law and imperfect means death.
No, God's law (the 10 commandments) were not abolished. Christ came to the fulfill the law for you and me. That was His primary mission: to legally answer the demands of His Father's law. In so doing Christ legally delivered us from under law.
Why? Why did we need to delivered from under law?
Because no matter how much you grow in grace you'll never be good enough. The law demands perfection. To be under the law and imperfect means death.
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You are confusing God not blessing the adulteress union of David and Bathsheba with the curse of the law. God didn't bless this union and because of that the baby died. God wasn't punishing this baby. This baby will be in heaven (or as some believe: is in heaven). Why? Read Romans 5:18. Babies who die before the age of accountability have no personal sins (see Romans 5:13) As Paul stated "to die is gain". The next thing that infant will see is his Savior.
You are confusing the law of sacrifices with the moral law. Some call the law of sacrifices the ceremonial law.
You are confusing God not blessing the adulteress union of David and Bathsheba with the curse of the law. God didn't bless this union and because of that the baby died. God wasn't punishing this baby. This baby will be in heaven (or as some believe: is in heaven). Why? Read Romans 5:18. Babies who die before the age of accountability have no personal sins (see Romans 5:13) As Paul stated "to die is gain". The next thing that infant will see is his Savior.
You are confusing the law of sacrifices with the moral law. Some call the law of sacrifices the ceremonial law.
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
The baby died as punishment for Davids actions.
Please show me from scripture where it is stated some of those under the old covenant were not under the jurisdiction of the law because they believed in the coming Christ, but others were under the jurisdiction of the law because they did not believe in him
Please show ne from scripture where it is stated sacrifices for sin only pertained to the ceremonial law, not the moral law
The baby died as punishment for Davids actions.
Please show me from scripture where it is stated some of those under the old covenant were not under the jurisdiction of the law because they believed in the coming Christ, but others were under the jurisdiction of the law because they did not believe in him
Please show ne from scripture where it is stated sacrifices for sin only pertained to the ceremonial law, not the moral law
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.5 In the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”11 “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin (adultery).”
Jesus could say "Then neither do I condemn you" because He took "the curse of the law" in His doing and dying.
Now, do we desire to be under law or under Christ (grace)?
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.5 In the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”11 “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin (adultery).”
Jesus could say "Then neither do I condemn you" because He took "the curse of the law" in His doing and dying.
Now, do we desire to be under law or under Christ (grace)?
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
Had the women been looking to the coming Christ while she lived a life of adultery so that is why she was forgiven? No!
Jesus invoked what he termed the higher points of the law, mercy, justice and faithfulness.
And God said he would have mercy on whom he would have mercy
Had the women been looking to the coming Christ while she lived a life of adultery so that is why she was forgiven? No!
Jesus invoked what he termed the higher points of the law, mercy, justice and faithfulness.
And God said he would have mercy on whom he would have mercy
Re: “The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him"
I never said that....I think you are confusing the Old Testament with the Old Covenant. Many in the OT weren't under the OC. Abraham & David are the best examples:
5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.6 David says the same thing... Rom 4:5,6
I never said that....I think you are confusing the Old Testament with the Old Covenant. Many in the OT weren't under the OC. Abraham & David are the best examples:
5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.6 David says the same thing... Rom 4:5,6