10 Questions about OSAS

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1 Timothy 2:15 Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
We must continue in the faith to be saved. No one & done will do.
More to come.
 
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OSAS, is a FACT, when we think in terms of the first time we meet God, He stands at the door to our heart knocking, we submit to Him.
We will NEVER have to go through that process again.
It was good the First time for ALL Time.

what's left after that, is to ABIDE/REMAIN in Him, Repent when we sin, forgive those who sin against us.

if we keep it to that ^, OSAS, is Correct!

You only GET SAVED ONCE, after that, it's about Remaining/Abiding in God.
 
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When Paul prayed 3 times to have a problem removed, it was revealed that grace was sufficient, not healing. The grace that saves is also the grace that sustains. Without grace, we all fall away.
you mean, Paul had an issue that was noticeable, but God, used it for His Own Purpose.
Grace, is based upon what and how God is using the situation in our life for His Own Purpose.
it's not we have this GRACE Condition, it's that GOD, is getting glory in your deformity/issue/problem/etc.

take Preachers for example.
some are odd, quirky, basically loners, goobers, idiots without God.
but that person can do mighty things by HOW GOD is getting GLORY through it.
that's what GRACE is.

i think i have an issue that will keep people from listening me so i cannot be an effective Witness.
well, it ain't about you anyway, it's God WORKING through to get HIS GLORY.
that's GRACE!

Moses could not talk well
but God used him for His Purpose
 
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Maybe he's a democrats and hates Trump? View attachment 257781


as a life long Republican, i am extremely upset with MAGA.
outside the fact, that 300 Prophecies have been made past 6 years by MAGA Preachers, who want us to call them Prophets [False Prophets] not a single one has even remotely come close to being true. they are LIARS.

then the MAGA House GOP Reps, need to be taken to Mexico and have their Passports revoked.

Last NIGHT, 93 of them, VOTED to shut down Government.
to STOP helping and funding the WAR Effort for Israel.
and WE WERE 4 Votes away that had the Government shut down...would ALLOW Josephine Biden to ISSUE Martial Law.
which then he could revoke being President and make himself KING of the USA.

MAGA Republicans, claim to Follow God, but they VOTED against GOD and ISRAEL + almost GAVE OUR NATION AWAY!

I personally think MAGA is a SATANIC MOVEMENT, after seeing what they almost did to US...

i Pray, GOD, removes Trump. He will sell us out to the Antichrist.

after all, Trump, was a Registered and Money Supporter for the Democrats all his life up to he decided to run Republican.

Dude, is Democrat at heart.
He's a BLEEDING LIBERAL!!
a WOLF in SHEEP's Clothing!
 

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you mean, Paul had an issue that was noticeable, but God, used it for His Own Purpose.
Grace, is based upon what and how God is using the situation in our life for His Own Purpose.
it's not we have this GRACE Condition, it's that GOD, is getting glory in your deformity/issue/problem/etc.

take Preachers for example.
some are odd, quirky, basically loners, goobers, idiots without God.
but that person can do mighty things by HOW GOD is getting GLORY through it.
that's what GRACE is.

i think i have an issue that will keep people from listening me so i cannot be an effective Witness.
well, it ain't about you anyway, it's God WORKING through to get HIS GLORY.
that's GRACE!

Moses could not talk well
but God used him for His Purpose
All you said is true. But my point is that we were never meant to live apart from God. Jesus said such when He said...Apart from Me, you can do nothing. The same grace necessary to save us is necessary to keep us. We cannot keep ourselves.
 
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All you said is true. But my point is that we were never meant to live apart from God. Jesus said such when He said...Apart from Me, you can do nothing. The same grace necessary to save us is necessary to keep us. We cannot keep ourselves.
Amen!

but Jesus said we do have the choice to Abide. so, it is about some of us just wanting to Stay and Remain.
 
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as a life long Republican, i am extremely upset with MAGA.
outside the fact, that 300 Prophecies have been made past 6 years by MAGA Preachers, who want us to call them Prophets [False Prophets] not a single one has even remotely come close to being true. they are LIARS.

then the MAGA House GOP Reps, need to be taken to Mexico and have their Passports revoked.

Last NIGHT, 93 of them, VOTED to shut down Government.
to STOP helping and funding the WAR Effort for Israel.
and WE WERE 4 Votes away that had the Government shut down...would ALLOW Josephine Biden to ISSUE Martial Law.
which then he could revoke being President and make himself KING of the USA.

MAGA Republicans, claim to Follow God, but they VOTED against GOD and ISRAEL + almost GAVE OUR NATION AWAY!

I personally think MAGA is a SATANIC MOVEMENT, after seeing what they almost did to US...

i Pray, GOD, removes Trump. He will sell us out to the Antichrist.

after all, Trump, was a Registered and Money Supporter for the Democrats all his life up to he decided to run Republican.

Dude, is Democrat at heart.
He's a BLEEDING LIBERAL!!
a WOLF in SHEEP's Clothing!
The bill received support from 209 Democrats and 127 Republicans, with opposition from 93 Republicans and two Democrats.


the DEMOCRATS, KEPT JOE BIDEN, from being able to issue Martial Law. How insane is that?
 

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Amen!

but Jesus said we do have the choice to Abide. so, it is about some of us just wanting to Stay and Remain.
Sure. That comes by way of our new nature. Because we have become partakers of the divine nature, we will always desire God. But because we retain our fallen nature, we will often struggle. More and more God works in us so we desire Him in greater measure than our sin.
 
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as a life long Republican, i am extremely upset with MAGA.
So you're with the MASM crowd instead?

"Make America Suck More" clueless-scratching.gif



MAGA Republicans, claim to Follow God, but they VOTED against GOD and ISRAEL + almost GAVE OUR NATION AWAY!
What happens typically is at the last minutes somebody adds a bunch of extra stuff to a bill that cannot be supported.

You probably don't know of all the garbage they put in to make many of the republicans to vote against it.

And just because the government shuts down due to no budget being adopted, that does NOT mean martial law... so you can take off yer tin foil hat now and quit freaking out in fear! rolleyes3.gif



i Pray, GOD, removes Trump. He will sell us out to the Antichrist.
First off... the Lord obviously did not support Trump' election bid in 220 and secondly the democrats ARE well on their way to making this country a communist nation by incrementally trashing the Constitution and it's the democrats who will surrendering our national sovereignty to the anti-christ when the time comes and thee mainstream republicanism will do nothing to stop it.

The whole reason they hate Trump so much is because he's NOT a globalist and is FOR the United States first which the democrats see as a threat to their efforts to make this country a communist nation

Bottom line here is the majority of Americans reject Jesus Christ so this nation has forsaken the Lord... so there is no political solution for fixing this nation... we will continue to go downhill and nothing is going to stop it.

Certain sections of the country will do well, but the majority of the country (where liberals rule) will descend in to further chaos.



the DEMOCRATS, KEPT JOE BIDEN, from being able to issue Martial Law. How insane is that?
That's hilarious! There's not going to be martial law if the government temporarily shuts down due to there being no budge in place. That's laughable roll.gif
 

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An apostate is a man who does NOT struggle against sin anymore. He wallows in it like a pig in mire.

2 Peter 2:22
“But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”

This verse is crystal clear in its meaning and if you choose to reject it then it is on you.
Yet, when the prodigal son wallowed in it, he came to his senses (through Grace) and returned to the Father.
 
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It was a lot of work for the prodigal son to return to the Father.
Well he did have to make the decision to return... the Father did not do that for him.

Sometimes one needs to be become "broken" before the Lord and come to the end of themselves and what they can do on their own before they finally make the decision to return to the Lord submitting their entire lives unto Him.
 

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Well he did have to make the decision to return... the Father did not do that for him.

Sometimes one needs to be become "broken" before the Lord and come to the end of themselves and what they can do on their own before they finally make the decision to return to the Lord submitting their entire lives unto Him.
Isn't God the one overseeing our circumstances?
 
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Isn't God the one overseeing our circumstances?
You think the Lord is controlling all the decisions man makes?

If that was true... when a child molester abuses an innocent little child... it was God that told him to do that?

This belief is calvinist garbage and is false, untrue, and is phony BULLoney! agree.gif

It's funny as calvinism and islam believe the same thing... they believe if something happens, God wanted it to happen otherwise it would never have happened.

They believe this because satan is the author of both false belief systems.
 

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It was a lot of work for the prodigal son to return to the Father.
Interesting that the Prodigal son only THOUGHT he had lost his sonship. He hoped to only come back as a lowly servant.

Of course his father ALWAYS considered him his son, and welcomed him back as one.
 
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Luke 15:24
For this my son was dead, and is alive again;


And yet... the Father specifically said his son was dead and is no alive AGAIN only after he returned to the Father.

As long as he was departed from the Father... he was dead.

The OSAS peoples really hate Luke 15:24 since it doesn't fit they funny doctrine... notice they never talk about Luke 15:24? Weird!
 

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You think the Lord is controlling all the decisions man makes?

If that was true... when a child molester abuses an innocent little child... it was God that told him to do that?

This belief is calvinist garbage and is false, untrue, and is phony BULLoney! View attachment 257814

It's funny as calvinism and islam believe the same thing... they believe if something happens, God wanted it to happen otherwise it would never have happened.

They believe this because satan is the author of both false belief systems.
I'm talking about circumstances, not decisions. While circumstances do drive decisions, God accomplishes everything He desires within the freewill choices of men.
In the book of James we are reminded that men can go from town to town to buy and sell, but only have success as God wills. The Apostle Paul, when speaking in Athens declares that God has set the boundaries in which we live. God doesn't take away freewill, but He certainly limits choices.
 

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Luke 15:24
For this my son was dead, and is alive again;


And yet... the Father specifically said his son was dead and is no alive AGAIN only after he returned to the Father.

As long as he was departed from the Father... he was dead.

The OSAS peoples really hate Luke 15:24 since it doesn't fit they funny doctrine... notice they never talk about Luke 15:24? Weird!
He was dead before he left. Same as the other brother. He came home alive.
 
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I'm talking about circumstances, not decisions
OK, so when a man with little children see his wife get cancer and dies young... are you going to claim God gave her cancer?

Some "christians" actually believe the Lord is going around giving people diseases, car wrecks, having people shot, etc, etc.

That's because they are confusing the Lord with the devil.