Was Solomon Saved?

[Jason0047]

Was Solomon Saved?

Yes, I believe Solomon was saved for several key reasons.

#1. Solomon wrote books in our Bible. We do not have a book of Judas or a book of Balaam.

#2. We know Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes and the conclusion of those writings was warning the young youth who goes after lustful desires will face God's judgment (Ecclesiastes 11:9) The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person. For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14). This I believe is Solomon writing about himself.

#3. Solomon is called beloved of his God in Nehemiah 13:26.

#4. Jesus Christ never mentions Solomon in an unfavorable light but in a positive way. This is important because Jesus Christ nor any other prophet or disciple ever mentioned somebody that was damned in a favorable sense. In fact, I believe there are important spiritual points that are made by understanding why Jesus spoke about Solomon in a positive way (More on this to come).

#5. 2 Samuel chapter 7 tells us God would take away his mercy from Saul but he would not take away it away from Solomon. For God says that He will be a father to Solomon and he will be like his son, if he commits iniquity he will be chastened by the Lord with a rod of iron. This is an important fact to understand because the New Testament says, "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth" (Hebrews 12:6). Anyways, here is the passage in 2nd Samuel.

2 Samuel 7:12-16

12 "And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:

15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.

16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever."

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Anyways, this is why I believe Solomon will be at the first resurrection and not the second.

I hope this helps.

And may God bless you.

Side Note:

Oh, and Saul will be at the 2nd resurrection, which is the resurrection of the damned. Saul had committed suicide and could not have repented of such a sin. So he obviously is in Torments (awaiting destruction in the Lake of Fire) and he did not go to Abraham's bosom (i.e. Paradise).

 

[EbalT5]

The main complaint against Solomon was that he had multiple wives.
A king was not supposed to have too many wives Deut 17:17
But polygamy was permitted in Israel.

 

[secularhermit]

Here is the thread I will be concerned: Will I be saved?

Yes? Or Not?

How much $ are you willing to bet?

 

[Jason0047]

The main complaint against Solomon was that he had multiple wives.
A king was not supposed to have too many wives Deut 17:17
But polygamy was permitted in Israel.

No, God never approved of polygamy. But didn't Abram take Hagar to be his wife?

"...and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife."

Yes, but God did not approve of it, though. For according to the text above in Genesis, Abram was given Hagar as a wife from Sarai, but we do not see God endorsing Abram's decision, though.

This was not uncommon amongst the various men of God within the Old Testament to have multiple wives. However, does that mean God approves of polygamy? No. Jesus quotes Genesis chapter 2 on how marriage was always intended to be one man and one woman. So this obviously was a sin that Abram and Sarai would have confessed to the Lord at some point within their lives.

For the sin of polygamy involving Sarai and Abram had caught up with both Abram and Sarai. In Sarai's case: she was despised by her mistress in the fact that her mistress conceived while she (Sarai) did not conceive. In other words, if Sarai would have trusted in God, her handmaid Hagar would have not despised her in this way.

Was Sarai's lack of faith justification for Hagar to despise Sarai?

Is their a situation in your life where God has called you to take a step of faith, but you only met him half way on your own terms?

Are you despising someone today?

If these questions speak to your heart, do not delay in talking it over with the Lord (i.e. Jesus Christ).



While I currently believe Abram took Hagar as a wife (Which disagrees with the following article I am going to provide by way of a link), I do think there are some great points brought up by this author on the topic of how God is against Polygamy in the Old Testament.

Here is the link if you are interested in checking it out.

The Truth About Polygamy
(Important Note: Oh, and please know that not all views or beliefs expressed by this author or website reflect my own - Thanks).

 

[Jason0047]

Here is the thread I will be concerned: Will I be saved?

Yes? Or Not?

How much $ are you willing to bet?

Learning about how others were saved or not saved within the Bible helps one to understand how one personally has salvation or not. They are examples for our learning.

 

[Jason0047]

Matthew 6:29 KJV and Luke 12:27 KJV both tell us about the glory of how a lily is arrayed more in glory than Solomon's glory. This is an important point to bring up because in 1 Chronicles we learn that when Solomon did not ask for glory or riches. He asked for wisdom; And God said that because Solomon did not ask for glorious riches or anything material, he was blessed with riches or the glory of a great kingdom anyway.

2 Chronicles 1:10-12

10 "Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?

11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

12 Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like."

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In other words, in the beginning of Solomon's life, he was more concerned in being wise (which is a spiritual gift that is God honoring) then he was with being focused on his physical needs.

This echoes the very thought in Matthew and Luke.

Matthew 6:25-26

25 "Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?"

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Although the Lord had given Solomon great riches, he did not want Solomon to put his trust in those uncertain riches.

For initially, God gave him riches and wealth and honor in addition to the wisdom and God was pleased with him. But did Solomon honor God after that? Well, Solomon's life started well, but he got sidetracked.

Just after the Israelites had left Egypt, God gave them some rules for their future king that God would choose from among them.

“But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold” (Deuteronomy 17:16-17).

Solomon disobeyed every point in this verse.

“And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen” (1 Kings 4:26).

God was pretty specific in what was written in Deuteronomy, but Solomon didn’t seem to be paying attention.

“But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart” (1 Kings 11:1-3).

Take note here, God’s direction about not being unequally yoked is not a new concept to the New Testament. These pagan wives turned him to idol worship. Solomon was wise, but not very smart. He forgot to “fear God.”

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding” (Proverbs 9:10).

This proverb holds a truth that cannot be questioned. The Hebrew word “yir’ah” is translated “fear” and regarding to our attitude toward God. It means “respect, reverence, piety. (Solomon wrote many, many proverbs, according to 1 Kings 4:32, he spoke 3,000 proverbs and wrote 1,005 songs.)

So Solomon was saying that if we are respecting and revering, that is where wisdom begins. Solomon had it all…wine, women, and song, as well as wealth. It seems as if during his life he got off track. His fear of the Lord waned and he lost his joy. He spoke pious words of wisdom but did not fear the Lord. King Solomon felt the uselessness of the pleasures of the world when he wrote:

“Vanity of vanities,” says the Preacher; “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity” (Ecclesiastes 1:2).

The Hebrew word “hebel” is translated “vanity” and means “breath, vapor.” It seems he found passing pleasures but nothing that would last─nothing to find contentment in. After a life of trying everything under the sun, this is his conclusion: Frustration, futility, nonsense, even absurdity─all is vanity. At the end of his writing in Ecclesiastes, King Solomon wrote:

“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man” (Ecclesiastes 12:13).

He finally seems to have put his wisdom to use and concluded that the pleasures of this world are vanity…a vapor that doesn’t last. But to fear (respect) God is where our priority should be. Solomon was not happy in his life even though he had everything his heart desired and more.

So we should trust in the Lord to provide for our basic needs and not be so overly concerned with material possessions. For Jesus said, sell all that you have and come follow me. For He will take care of you like He takes care of the lilies of the fields and the birds of the sky. For He said, put your treasures in Heaven. For our real treasure is Jesus. So we should ask Him what is good for our lives and trust in Him in what He will bring to us. For riches do not satisfy. Only the Lord Jesus Christ God Almighty can satisfy.

Source Used:
Ron Graham

 

[Jason0047]

For 2 Samuel chapter 7 the Lord says this about Solomon:

(a) I will be his father, & he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7:14)
(b) My mercy shall not depart from him (2 Samuel 7:15)
(c) If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him (2 Samuel 7:14)

And Jesus alludes to Solomon's life as an example in his sermon to his disciples to not be concerned with their basic needs. Now, why would the Lord Jesus cite an example of someone who went to Hell that was trying to get across an important spiritual message? Is the Lord speaking unfavorably of Solomon in the New Testament here? ---> Matthew 6:29 KJV, Luke 12:27 KJV.

 

[Jason0047]

What is another reason why I think Solomon was saved?

Solomon wrote Scripture (1 Kings 4:32 KJV) (Proverbs 1:1 KJV) (Proverbs 10:1 KJV) (Proverbs 25:1 KJV) (Song of Solomon 1:1 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 1:1 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 1:12 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 12:9 KJV).

And all men who wrote the Scriptures were Holy men of God.

2 Peter 1:20-21

20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

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Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Holy men of God spake as their were moved by the Holy Ghost. Did Solomon speak under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost instead of just writing? Well, Paul had a scribe who had written down what he had spoken. Would it be hard to presume that Solomon being a king would not have his own scribe, too? This means, Solomon could have spoken some or all of what he had written down. Which would fulfill 2 Peter 1:20-21 very nicely.

In any event, this is not conclusive proof in and of itself, but it does add one link in a chain of reasons why Solomon was most likely saved. For why would God choose an man who would later be unsaved to write the Scriptures? Did God ever allow a wicked man or a man who later was wicked to write the Scriptures? These are the questions I hope every Christian asks to seek out the truth for themselves to the glory of God within their life.

May God bless you all.

 

[Brainfreeze]

1But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; 2Of the nations concerning which YAHWEH said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. 3And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 4For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with YAHWEH his God, as was the heart of David his father. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after YAHWEH, as did David his father.



7Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. 8And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods.



9And YAHWEH was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from YAHWEH God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which YAHWEH commanded. 11Wherefore YAHWEH said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. 12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.

I don't judge hearts... But the word is true, he turned his heart to other gods after YAHWEH commanded him not to do this... Solomon did it anyway..everything else happened just as YAHWEH said it would...

 

[Brainfreeze]

No, God never approved of polygamy. But didn't Abram take Hagar to be his wife?

"...and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife."

Yes, but God did not approve of it, though. For according to the text above in Genesis, Abram was given Hagar as a wife from Sarai, but we do not see God endorsing Abram's decision, though.

It wasn't just because of a few wives like Abram, the wives of Solomon turned his heart to worship other gods was the root of the problem.

 

[Brainfreeze]

What is another reason why I think Solomon was saved?

Solomon wrote Scripture (1 Kings 4:32 KJV) (Proverbs 1:1 KJV) (Proverbs 10:1 KJV) (Proverbs 25:1 KJV) (Song of Solomon 1:1 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 1:1 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 1:12 KJV) (Ecclesiastes 12:9 KJV).


May God bless you all.

Yes, he did write proverbs, " when he got wisdom from YAHWEH " SoS are debatable, added in 2nd Ce. shows how God can use anyone for any reason, and the individual still has a choice to make in the end,

 

[EbalT5]

No, God never approved of polygamy.

2 Samuel 12:7-8New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]7 [/SUP]Nathan then said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel, ‘It is I who anointed you king over Israel and it is I who delivered you from the hand of Saul. [SUP]8 [/SUP]I also gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your care, and I gave you the house of Israel and Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added to you many more things like these!

God gave King David Saul's wives.

 

[JimmieD]

Solomon was hardly the saintly kind of person. Him having multiple wives was probably only a small fraction of his unseemly activities.

(1) There's a good chance that Solomon actually usurped the throne from Adonijah. First, Adonijah was older than Solomon, and would have been naturally in line before Solomon to be king.
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2 Sam3:3 His second son was Kileab, born to Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite. His third son was Absalom, the son of Maacah daughter of King Talmai of Geshur. 3:4 His fourth son was Adonijah, the son of Haggith. His fifth son was Shephatiah, the son of Abitail. 3:5 His sixth son was Ithream, born to David’s wife Eglah. These sonswere all born to David in Hebron.

5:14 These are the names of children born to him in Jerusalem: Shammua, Shobab, Nathan, Solomon, 5:15 Ibhar, Elishua, Nepheg, Japhia, 5:16 Elishama, Eliada, and Eliphelet.
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We know Absolom was killed. Amnon was dead (2 Sam 13). This made Kileab next-in-line then Adonijah, though we don't know what happened to Kileab.

In any case, Adonijah doesn't seem to know anything about Solomon being the rightful successor to David (1 Kn 1:5-6). Not only did Adonijah seem to think he was the rightful king, but David's own top general/right-hand-man Joab and high priest Abiathar also thought Adonijah was the rightful heir (1 Kn 1:7). While David was on his death bead, Adonijah held a coronation party just outside of Jerusalem with David's other sons (except Solomon), the elders of Judah, and David's own royal court in attendance. Everyone thought Adonijah was the rightful heir - everyone except Solomon, his mother Bathsheba, Nathan, and some of David's elite warriors. And it's suspiciously Nathan, Benaiah (one of those elite warriors), and Bathsheba that go see David while he's on his death bead. And while they are in there, it's only then that David supposedly names Solomon as his successor. This is suspicious indeed. Bathsheba has ample motive to see her son be the successor to the throne given that David had her husband murdered (also one of David's elite warriors). David's elite warriors also have motive - Solomon was the son of one of their own, unlike Adonijah.

After Bathsheba, Nathan, and Benaiah claim that David named Solomon, they rush Solomon into a coronation ceremony and then rush him back into Jerusalem before Adonijah could arrive. They have to do this to try to raise support quickly since the support for the rightful king seems to be in favor of Adonijah.

For whatever reason, Adonijah seems to have panicked and grabbed the horns of the altar in the temple, which should have given him safety according to Israelite law. But Solomon and Bathsheba betray that law and murder Adonijah. Then they murder David's top general/right-hand-man Joab. Then they dismiss David's high priest Abiathar. All are conveniently replaced by Solomon's supporters. Benaiah becomes top general. Zadok becomes high priest.

All appearances are that Solomon usurped the throne and eliminated the original claimants. It looks like a classic coup. This isn't all that surprising either; this frequently happens when "strong-man" types of rulers, like David, die leaving a power vacuum behind. Factions formed between those who aligned with Solomon (Nathan, Bathsheba, some of David's royal guard) and Adonijah (David's general, David's high priest, David's other sons, and the royal court). In all odds, David's royal guard did what they always had done, murder their way into power and installed one of their own.

(2) Solomon also seems to have enslaved some of his own population in order to build his work projects - the temple, his own palace, walls, and various cities (1 Kn 9:10-24). Of course, comfortingly we are told that he didn't enslave Israelites, just non-Israelites, though later we find out that he also actually enslaved some Ephraimites and Josephites (1 Kn 11). So in reality, Solomon just didn't enslave his own Judahites. Solomon wasn't wise enough to prevent one of the leaders of his slave labor (Jeroboam) to revolt. Not only did Jeroboam lead a revolt, but it was successful in the end - Israel separated from Judah.

In any case, Solomon appears to have been a usurper to the throne, a murderer, an adulterer, an idolater, a lawbreaker, a politician, a pawn (for his mother and David's royal guard in the beginning), and a harsh slave master.

But other than that, I'm sure he was a model example for the rest of us.

 

[Jason0047]

2 Samuel 12:7-8New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]7 [/SUP]Nathan then said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel, ‘It is I who anointed you king over Israel and it is I who delivered you from the hand of Saul. [SUP]8 [/SUP]I also gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your care, and I gave you the house of Israel and Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added to you many more things like these!

God gave King David Saul's wives.

No, it says he gave him Saul's house and wives into his care, not for being there actual wives. Jesus never endorsed polygamy. He said the original plan for marriage was like it was back in the Garden.

 

[Jason0047]

Solomon was hardly the saintly kind of person. Him having multiple wives was probably only a small fraction of his unseemly activities.

(1) There's a good chance that Solomon actually usurped the throne from Adonijah. First, Adonijah was older than Solomon, and would have been naturally in line before Solomon to be king.
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2 Sam3:3 His second son was Kileab, born to Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite. His third son was Absalom, the son of Maacah daughter of King Talmai of Geshur. 3:4 His fourth son was Adonijah, the son of Haggith. His fifth son was Shephatiah, the son of Abitail. 3:5 His sixth son was Ithream, born to David’s wife Eglah. These sonswere all born to David in Hebron.

5:14 These are the names of children born to him in Jerusalem: Shammua, Shobab, Nathan, Solomon, 5:15 Ibhar, Elishua, Nepheg, Japhia, 5:16 Elishama, Eliada, and Eliphelet.
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We know Absolom was killed. Amnon was dead (2 Sam 13). This made Kileab next-in-line then Adonijah, though we don't know what happened to Kileab.

In any case, Adonijah doesn't seem to know anything about Solomon being the rightful successor to David (1 Kn 1:5-6). Not only did Adonijah seem to think he was the rightful king, but David's own top general/right-hand-man Joab and high priest Abiathar also thought Adonijah was the rightful heir (1 Kn 1:7). While David was on his death bead, Adonijah held a coronation party just outside of Jerusalem with David's other sons (except Solomon), the elders of Judah, and David's own royal court in attendance. Everyone thought Adonijah was the rightful heir - everyone except Solomon, his mother Bathsheba, Nathan, and some of David's elite warriors. And it's suspiciously Nathan, Benaiah (one of those elite warriors), and Bathsheba that go see David while he's on his death bead. And while they are in there, it's only then that David supposedly names Solomon as his successor. This is suspicious indeed. Bathsheba has ample motive to see her son be the successor to the throne given that David had her husband murdered (also one of David's elite warriors). David's elite warriors also have motive - Solomon was the son of one of their own, unlike Adonijah.

After Bathsheba, Nathan, and Benaiah claim that David named Solomon, they rush Solomon into a coronation ceremony and then rush him back into Jerusalem before Adonijah could arrive. They have to do this to try to raise support quickly since the support for the rightful king seems to be in favor of Adonijah.

For whatever reason, Adonijah seems to have panicked and grabbed the horns of the altar in the temple, which should have given him safety according to Israelite law. But Solomon and Bathsheba betray that law and murder Adonijah. Then they murder David's top general/right-hand-man Joab. Then they dismiss David's high priest Abiathar. All are conveniently replaced by Solomon's supporters. Benaiah becomes top general. Zadok becomes high priest.

All appearances are that Solomon usurped the throne and eliminated the original claimants. It looks like a classic coup. This isn't all that surprising either; this frequently happens when "strong-man" types of rulers, like David, die leaving a power vacuum behind. Factions formed between those who aligned with Solomon (Nathan, Bathsheba, some of David's royal guard) and Adonijah (David's general, David's high priest, David's other sons, and the royal court). In all odds, David's royal guard did what they always had done, murder their way into power and installed one of their own.

(2) Solomon also seems to have enslaved some of his own population in order to build his work projects - the temple, his own palace, walls, and various cities (1 Kn 9:10-24). Of course, comfortingly we are told that he didn't enslave Israelites, just non-Israelites, though later we find out that he also actually enslaved some Ephraimites and Josephites (1 Kn 11). So in reality, Solomon just didn't enslave his own Judahites. Solomon wasn't wise enough to prevent one of the leaders of his slave labor (Jeroboam) to revolt. Not only did Jeroboam lead a revolt, but it was successful in the end - Israel separated from Judah.

In any case, Solomon appears to have been a usurper to the throne, a murderer, an adulterer, an idolater, a lawbreaker, a politician, a pawn (for his mother and David's royal guard in the beginning), and a harsh slave master.

But other than that, I'm sure he was a model example for the rest of us.

Jesus comes not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. The thief on the cross was a thief right before he died. He did not live righteously. God's grace saved him. David murdered and committed adultery. Yet he found forgiveness.

 

[secularhermit]

Jesus comes not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. The thief on the cross was a thief right before he died. He did not live righteously. God's grace saved him. David murdered and committed adultery. Yet he found forgiveness.

Dave received his Grace. The thief, also, was forgiven and invited to be "there", as a guest.


Luk 23:42 And he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom!" (The asking)
Luk 23:43 And he said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise." (the answer)

 

[Jason0047]

It wasn't just because of a few wives like Abram, the wives of Solomon turned his heart to worship other gods was the root of the problem.

Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes. I believe he wrote this near the end of his life. For he talks about how he acquired female servants (Ecclesiastes 2:7) and how he did not withold any type of pleasure of joy from himself (Ecclesiastes 2:10). He concludes at the end of Ecclesiastes that all is vanity and that we are to fear God and keep His commandments. In other words, at one time in Solomon's life was his heart led astray by false gods, but he later came back. Even Jacob's wife and family had went temporarily astray by involving themselves in idol worship (Genesis 35:1-4). You believe 1 Kings 11:9 is the end of the story of Solomon's life. I believe his true end is written by his own hand in Ecclesiastes.

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[Jason0047]

Dave received his Grace. The thief, also, was forgiven and invited to be "there", as a guest.


Luk 23:42 And he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom!" (The asking)
Luk 23:43 And he said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise." (the answer)

Just so that there is no confusion, I am not trying to promote a sin and still be saved doctrine. What this means is that God knows every man's heart and He knows who is true and pure with Him and who is false. For it is faith. For outside the Scriptures, we do not know who will truly accept Him or not. Even the false Christian can repent and be saved. Even the backslidden Christian can be saved. God's grace and mercy is there for everyone. Even people who have lived extremely sinful lives like Solomon.

 

[Jason0047]

Also, when one reads 1 Kings 11:9, they also have to look at 2 Samuel 7:15 that says,

15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes. I believe he wrote this near the end of his life. For he talks about how he acquired female servants (Ecclesiastes 2:7) and how he did not withold any type of pleasure of joy from himself (Ecclesiastes 2:10). He concludes at the end of Ecclesiastes that all is vanity and that we are to fear God and keep His commandments. In other words, at one time in Solomon's life was his heart led astray by false gods, but he later came back. Even Jacob's wife and family had went temporarily astray by involving themselves in idol worship (Genesis 35:1-4). You believe 1 Kings 11:9 is the end of the story of Solomon's life. I believe his true end is written by his own hand in Ecclesiastes.

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Your denying scripture...

. 4For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with YAHWEH his God, as was the heart of David his father. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6And Solomon did evil in the sight of YAHWEH, and went not fully after YAHWEH, as did David his father.

9And YAHWEH was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from YAHWEH God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which YAHWEH commanded. 11Wherefore YAHWEH said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. 12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.




40Solomon sought therefore to kill Jeroboam. And Jeroboam arose, and fled into Egypt, unto Shishak king of Egypt, and was in Egypt until the death of Solomon.