No, his armor bearer refused to kill him because he was wounded. So Saul took his own life instead of taking the chance in being tortured by his enemies before he died. This is still suicide. He was taking his life on what might have happened. He took his own life for his own selfish reasons and purpose.
Was Solomon Saved?
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Oh, and if anyone is interesting, here is a good article on Saul's death.
How did Saul actually die?
How did Saul actually die?
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If you want to rationalize this event with Saul, then let's. In (1 Sam 28) Saul had just met with the witch of Endor who was requested to call up of Samuel from his rest (probably in Abraham's bosom). Samuel was disquieted but was very specific as to his knowledge and understand of what had happened to Saul in relationship to God, the kingdom of Israel and specifically told him of the battle with the Philistines, the outcome of that battle and the destiny of him and his sons that very next day. The outcome happened as Samuel predicted which did not include any suicide on Saul's part whatsoever.
Here's a question. If Saul was predisposed to taking his own life, why not go to battle and let the Philistines do it up for him so that his legacy could be preserved in a measure. There is no record of that or even any contemplation of it. He went to battle, was severely wounded and requested his armor bearer to finish him off. The armor bearer's fear of touching God's anointed kept him from finishing Saul off, so Saul fell upon his own sword. He knew his time was up, Samuel (being called up) told him he would be with him the next day, and nothing could reverse that event from happening, including his own sons, especially Jonanthan who was not involved or a partaker of his Father's evil. I think that believers need to read David's account of his response to the death of Saul and Johnathan in (2 Sam 1:14-27), very sobering.
Here's a question. If Saul was predisposed to taking his own life, why not go to battle and let the Philistines do it up for him so that his legacy could be preserved in a measure. There is no record of that or even any contemplation of it. He went to battle, was severely wounded and requested his armor bearer to finish him off. The armor bearer's fear of touching God's anointed kept him from finishing Saul off, so Saul fell upon his own sword. He knew his time was up, Samuel (being called up) told him he would be with him the next day, and nothing could reverse that event from happening, including his own sons, especially Jonanthan who was not involved or a partaker of his Father's evil. I think that believers need to read David's account of his response to the death of Saul and Johnathan in (2 Sam 1:14-27), very sobering.
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Who are any of us to determine that Saul committed suicide by falling upon his own sword after being severely wounded. I think some do it because they have some kind of doctrine or understanding they want to justify so they can be right about it and that is nothing more than pride. There is absolutely no clear evidence that by falling on his sword after being severely wounded that it was a suicidal act. Many believe that Saul went to hell and want to use suicide to justify their belief. Saul became carnal and disobedient and jealousy took him over. On occasions he came out of his jealous rage over David but went back into it. He was jealous because the people preferred David and God was with David (1 Sam 18:7-12). He had no control over his jealousy and because of his prolonged jealousy he was guilty of the sin unto physical death and God took him in that battle along with his sons to give the throne over to David. Jealousy is as cruel as the grave (Song of Solomon 8:6, Prov 6:34).
