Matthew 5:17-19 and Sabbathkeeping Claims

[sparkman]

Sabbathkeepers will often claim Matthew 5:17-19 proves the need for New Covenant Christians to keep the Sabbath.

Matt 5:17-19 states the following:“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The phrase“Law and Prophets” refers to the Old Testament Scriptures. The Old Testament is divided into three different sections; the Law, Prophets, and Writings. The Law includes the first five books of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Numbers).The Prophets include all of the books of the Prophets.The Writings include the Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Job.

Jesus was saying that he did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it.He came to live a perfect life of obedience to the Old Covenant on our behalf. As God, he was able to be sinless and to fulfill the entire law. He was the reality that the animal sacrifices pointed to.Christ came to fulfill everything that the Old Testament said about him, including his sacrificial death on the behalf of mankind in Isaiah 53.

When did Christ fulfill the Law? He fulfilled the Law, as well as the prophecies concerning him, at the Cross:

John 19: 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

With regards to “these commandments” one could view this Scripture in two different ways.

One, if Christ is talking about the Law, referring back to verse 17, then the Law doesn’t apply to anyone today, although it did apply to the individuals he was speaking to…the Jews of his time. They were under the Old Covenant, and New Covenant Christians are not.

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17). The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex. 31:18, 34:28; Deut. 4:13, 9:9, 11). The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor. 3:4-18, Gal. 3:17-25, Heb. 8:13-9:4). The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal. 4:10, Rom. 14:5-6, Col. 2:16-17). Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb. 9:15; Jn. 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10). The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn.13:34).

Two, he may have been talking about the contents of the Sermon on the Mount that he was about to deliver.He gave lots of instructions during the Sermon.

Either way, if the Sabbathkeeper claims that these verses prove the need to keep the Sabbath, then in order to be consistent, they need to keep the entire Law as it was when Christ made these remarks, including physical circumcision, animal sacrifices, the weekly Sabbath, festivals, clean and unclean meat laws and strict tithing laws. I would venture to say that none of them are doing all of these things.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

I'll stick to the New Covenant of Christ and cherish the older covenant God made to Abraham, one of promise, not many commandments, based on promise from God and blessing, not keeping statutes and ordinances, feasts, or dominated by regulation of sin. Abraham's Covenant pointed to Jesus and his new covenant 430 years before Moses. Abraham's covenant is still active, opened up to Gentiles, with Abraham being the first Gentile to receive it. Out of that man came a son that birthed the tribes of Israel. But God had in mind the whole world finding Jesus.

Tucked midways between that covenant and Jesus' New Covenant lies the Mosaic Covenant established for Israel alone. Abraham's descendants occupied a huge part of the known world, any of those tribes who kept the faith of Abraham receiving the blessed promises by faith. Israel's blessings were based on obedience to the law added because of their multiplying sins.

Once the New came, there was no need of the Mosaic., even though not one mark on the scroll of the Law will vanish. The faithful live by faith, not by law, while some continue to base their lives on laws of sin.

Hebrews 8:6-7 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

A requirement by law to observe a sabbath day wasn't in existence until Moses. Abraham didn't know of it. It's a "must do" in the Law, not carried over into the New Covenant. It does remain to be kept for those trying to keep the inferior Mosaic Covenant.

Even modern Israel has been freed from the Mosaic covenant and observing holy days if only they would receive what the Lord offered them. Jesus went to them, some accepting, most not.

 

[Grandpa]

We still have a lot of people stumbling at the same stumblingstone. Their own pride and carnal understanding.

There are people who profess christianity and still think they are blessed by their own work at the law.

There are people who profess christianity and believe we are still under the law.

How can this be?

How can a person be shown the futility of their carnal work at the law and still want to work at it and think they are blessed by it?

Galatians 4:21-30
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

 

[MarcR]

Tit 3:5-7
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
KJV

 

[prove-all]

One, if Christ is talking about the Law, referring back to verse 17, then the Law doesn’t apply to anyone today, although it did apply to the individuals he was speaking to…the Jews of his time. They were under the Old Covenant, and New Covenant Christians are not.

your theory does not hold water, Jesus was talking to the deciples not the jews.

also all the scripture about Jesus is not completed,

he has not returned on the clouds has he?


not one dot till all fulfilled

 

[prove-all]

The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone Gal. 4:10,
.

-so where in this verse does it says to do away with the sabbath?


- so when did Gods holy convocations become weak and beggarly elements?
Gal. 4:10 is not, i repeat is not about Gods sabbaths.

9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again
to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
Notice the last half of the verse? Elements of what? Judaism? No, the world.

Gal 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
Judaism knew God, they did not recognize Christ when He came.

Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

What were they returning to? Weak and beggarly elements of what?
Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Who was Paul addressing here?

"Paul's letter is addressed "to the churches of Galatia" (Galatians 1:2), but the location of
these churches is a matter of debate. A minority of scholars have argued that the "Galatia"
is an ethnic reference to a Celtic people living in northern Asia Minor, but most agree that it
is a geographical reference to the Roman province in central Asia Minor, which had been settled by
immigrant Celts in the 270s BC and retained Gaulish features of culture and language in Paul's day."


Paul was not addressing Judah, he was addressing someone else.

Now read verse 10...

Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
These are not Jews observing Judaism, these are those who are of the world in Asia Minor
observing the weak and beggarly elements of the world, not Judaism.

 

[prove-all]

AN OBSERVER OF TIMES

is not a person who is keeping Sabbath days

GAL.4
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them
which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God,
or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly
elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
[10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS.
[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Its speaking of those who observe times,
it says nothing about sabbaths or feast days.

DEUT.18
[9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee,
thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his
daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination,
OR AN OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard, or a necromancer.

2 CHR.33
[3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father
had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves,
and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.
[4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof
the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.
[5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in
the two courts of the house of the LORD.
[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom:

ALSO HE OBSERVED TIMES, and used enchantments, and used
witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards:
he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger

Enchantments, witchcraft, familiar spirits, and wizards.
Its speaking of the occult. Not about following sabbath days.

LEV.19
[26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, (NOR OBSERVE TIMES).
[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

[30] (YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS), and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

-bible says You shall not observe times, BUT you shall keep my sabbaths says the Lord.

 

[prove-all]

The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone,
(Gal. 4:10, Rom. 14:5-6, Col. 2:16-17).

Rom. 14:5-6, does not say to do away with the sabbaths.
Col. 2:16-17, does not say to do away with the sabbaths.
Gal. 4:10, does not say to do away with the sabbaths.

 

[sparkman]

Read the context. He was talking to the multitudes during the Sermon on the Mount.

I already referred to the Scriptures that state what he said on the Cross.

John 19: 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

You are willfully ignorant.

your theory does not hold water, Jesus was talking to the deciples not the jews.

also all the scripture about Jesus is not completed,

he has not returned on the clouds has he?


not one dot till all fulfilled

 

[sparkman]

The context was in regards to Judaizers.

AN OBSERVER OF TIMES

is not a person who is keeping Sabbath days

GAL.4
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them
which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God,
or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly
elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
[10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS.
[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Its speaking of those who observe times,
it says nothing about sabbaths or feast days.

DEUT.18
[9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee,
thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his
daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination,
OR AN OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard, or a necromancer.

2 CHR.33
[3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father
had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves,
and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.
[4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof
the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.
[5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in
the two courts of the house of the LORD.
[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom:

ALSO HE OBSERVED TIMES, and used enchantments, and used
witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards:
he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger

Enchantments, witchcraft, familiar spirits, and wizards.
Its speaking of the occult. Not about following sabbath days.

LEV.19
[26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, (NOR OBSERVE TIMES).
[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

[30] (YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS), and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

-bible says You shall not observe times, BUT you shall keep my sabbaths says the Lord.

 

[prove-all]

Read the context. He was talking to the multitudes during the Sermon on the Mount.

I already referred to the Scriptures that state what he said on the Cross.

John 19: 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

You are willfully ignorant.

again Christ did not fulfill everything said about him in the propets,

did he return without us knowing, return on the clouds? no he has not

 

[prove-all]

The context was in regards to Judaizers.

no it was [YE OBSERVE DAYS], AND MONTHS, [AND TIMES], AND YEARS.

LEV.19
[26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, (NOR OBSERVE TIMES).
[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

[30] (YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS), and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

in the very same chapter bible says (not to OBSERVE TIMES).
and says (YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS),

You are willfully ignoring clear bible verses

 

[KohenMatt]

your theory does not hold water, Jesus was talking to the deciples not the jews.

also all the scripture about Jesus is not completed,

he has not returned on the clouds has he?


not one dot till all fulfilled

Jesus also says that until heaven and earth pass away....
Even if we try to make a case that We don't have to follow the Law because "everything has already been fulfilled," heaven and earth hasn't passed away yet.

 

[prove-all]

Read the context. He was talking to the multitudes during the Sermon on the Mount.

.

matthew 24 , mark 13 , luke 21 ,

and also Johns verson of the Olivet prophecy in rev. 6 first four seals


- when talking to multitudes, did he have two messages here, one to o.t. jews,

and one new gential converts.

how can he be talking to jews and gential both, a different gospel at the same time?

 

[sparkman]

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nationof Israel (Ex. 31:12-17). The TenCommandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex 31:18, 34:28; Deut 4:13,9:9, 11). The Old Covenant is no longerin effect for anyone (2 Cor 3:4-18, Gal 3:17-25, Heb 8:13-9:4). The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect foranyone (Gal 4:10, Rom 14:5-6, Col 2:16-17). Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands anddifferent commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb 9:15; Jn 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom13:10). The chief of those commandmentsis to love others as Christ loved us (Jn 13:34).
The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God andIsrael (Ex. 31:16-17). A sign is anidentifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinctfrom the other nations. Christians arenot parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.
My standard reply is above. I would also recommend Sabbath In Christ by Dale Ratzlaff.

By the way, I am presenting this information for others. I know you guys have seen it a dozen times.

I would also caution individuals that many of these Sabbathkeeping groups deny other fundamentals of Christianity including the Trinity.

Jesus also says that until heaven and earth pass away....
Even if we try to make a case that We don't have to follow the Law because "everything has already been fulfilled," heaven and earth hasn't passed away yet.

 

[KennethC]

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nationof Israel (Ex. 31:12-17).The TenCommandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex 31:18, 34:28; Deut 4:13,9:9, 11).The Old Covenant is no longerin effect for anyone (2 Cor 3:4-18, Gal 3:17-25, Heb 8:13-9:4).The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect foranyone (Gal 4:10, Rom 14:5-6, Col 2:16-17).Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands anddifferent commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb 9:15; Jn 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom13:10).The chief of those commandmentsis to love others as Christ loved us (Jn 13:34).
The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God andIsrael (Ex. 31:16-17).A sign is anidentifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinctfrom the other nations.Christians arenot parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.
My standard reply is above. I would also recommend Sabbath In Christ by Dale Ratzlaff.

By the way, I am presenting this information for others. I know you guys have seen it a dozen times.

I would also caution individuals that many of these Sabbathkeeping groups deny other fundamentals of Christianity including the Trinity.

I agree with some of your teaching but the point that I want to address is that you continue to mention Romans 13:10 of the commandments to love.

But by doing that and what you said previously about the 10 Commandments you seem to be ignoring what Apostle Paul said in Romans 13:9. That the moral commands of God based within the 10 Commandments plus any other commandment given by the Lord will be upheld by walking in love, meaning born again believers will follow those commandments out of love.

Here is a list of where the 10 Commandments are upheld in the NT;




First
Commandment
Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8; Revelation 14:7


Second
Commandment
Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-20; Ephesians 5:5


Third
Commandment
Matthew 5:33-37; 1 Timothy 6:1; James 2:7


Fourth
Commandment
Luke 4:16; 23:55-56; Acts 17:1-2; 18:4; Hebrews 4:9; 1 John 2:6


Fifth
Commandment
Matthew 15:4-9; 19:19; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; Ephesians 6:1-3


Sixth
Commandment
Matthew 5:21-22; 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; 13:9


Seventh
Commandment
Matthew 5:27-28; 19:18; Mark 10:11-12, 19; Luke 16:18; 18:20; Romans 7:2-3; 13:9


Eighth
Commandment
Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Peter 4:15; Revelation 9:21

Ninth
Commandment
Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Acts 5:3-4; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:25


10th
Commandment
Luke 12:15; Romans 1:29; 7:7; 13:9; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:3, 5

 

[Mac4Yuma]

Sabbathkeepers will often claim Matthew 5:17-19 proves the need for New Covenant Christians to keep the Sabbath.

Matt 5:17-19 states the following:“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The phrase“Law and Prophets” refers to the Old Testament Scriptures. The Old Testament is divided into three different sections; the Law, Prophets, and Writings. The Law includes the first five books of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Numbers).The Prophets include all of the books of the Prophets.The Writings include the Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Job.

Jesus was saying that he did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it.He came to live a perfect life of obedience to the Old Covenant on our behalf. As God, he was able to be sinless and to fulfill the entire law. He was the reality that the animal sacrifices pointed to.Christ came to fulfill everything that the Old Testament said about him, including his sacrificial death on the behalf of mankind in Isaiah 53.

When did Christ fulfill the Law? He fulfilled the Law, as well as the prophecies concerning him, at the Cross:

John 19: 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

With regards to “these commandments” one could view this Scripture in two different ways.

One, if Christ is talking about the Law, referring back to verse 17, then the Law doesn’t apply to anyone today, although it did apply to the individuals he was speaking to…the Jews of his time. They were under the Old Covenant, and New Covenant Christians are not.

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17). The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex. 31:18, 34:28; Deut. 4:13, 9:9, 11). The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor. 3:4-18, Gal. 3:17-25, Heb. 8:13-9:4). The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal. 4:10, Rom. 14:5-6, Col. 2:16-17). Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb. 9:15; Jn. 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10). The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn.13:34).

Two, he may have been talking about the contents of the Sermon on the Mount that he was about to deliver.He gave lots of instructions during the Sermon.

Either way, if the Sabbathkeeper claims that these verses prove the need to keep the Sabbath, then in order to be consistent, they need to keep the entire Law as it was when Christ made these remarks, including physical circumcision, animal sacrifices, the weekly Sabbath, festivals, clean and unclean meat laws and strict tithing laws. I would venture to say that none of them are doing all of these things.

If you are correct that would mean Jesus lied to us not only in words but examples He kept 80 plus Saturdays and told us to follow His examples. I know He did not change His mind therefore the verses the story they tell is not as you have given us but then that is why the Bible says what it says.

Mac.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nationof Israel (Ex. 31:12-17).The TenCommandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex 31:18, 34:28; Deut 4:13,9:9, 11).The Old Covenant is no longerin effect for anyone (2 Cor 3:4-18, Gal 3:17-25, Heb 8:13-9:4).The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect foranyone (Gal 4:10, Rom 14:5-6, Col 2:16-17).Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands anddifferent commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb 9:15; Jn 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom13:10).The chief of those commandmentsis to love others as Christ loved us (Jn 13:34).
The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God andIsrael (Ex. 31:16-17).A sign is anidentifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinctfrom the other nations.Christians arenot parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.
My standard reply is above. I would also recommend Sabbath In Christ by Dale Ratzlaff.

By the way, I am presenting this information for others. I know you guys have seen it a dozen times.

I would also caution individuals that many of these Sabbathkeeping groups deny other fundamentals of Christianity including the Trinity.

Just a note: The first covenant and the the update the Second Covenant that ends some of the first one like pot and pan washing the first was the physical Church and the second is the Spiritual Church.

Mac.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

Read the context. He was talking to the multitudes during the Sermon on the Mount.

I already referred to the Scriptures that state what he said on the Cross.

John 19: 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

You are willfully ignorant.

I am sorry you have been misinformed there was no Sermon on the Mount! Jesus did speak to the many and then He moved up the hill to talk privately with His working followers. BTW I think that rock came back and hit you we must all be careful or the same will get us all also.

Mac.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

Tit 3:5-7
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
KJV

your translation says some one is saved and then it says we shall be saved according to a hope.

To confusing for me and maybe a few others.

Mac.