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Jesus did say search the scriptures for they are they which testify of me......at the time he said that the N.T. was not yet written and lest we forget...David, Daniel, Job and others found eternal salvation in the coming messiah and grace is woven through the O.T.....not to the extent as found in the N.T. obviously....but I will say...the keeping of the commandments fully for salvation was impossible as the commandments take us by the hand and point us to the messiah, savior.......Moses, representing the law did not deliver anyone to the promise land....it took Joshua (savior) to deliver the people.........
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I think that we overlook the fact that in the OT, the people were getting DIRECT revelation and theophanies of the Lord Jesus Christ. Much of it was oral tradition. And Israel was used as the client nation of God to spread the Gospel of the future cross.
So we have no clue what was said and not recorded in the OT. But I would guess that the NT, is pretty close to the oral traditions that Israel was SUPPOSED to spread to the world.
So we have no clue what was said and not recorded in the OT. But I would guess that the NT, is pretty close to the oral traditions that Israel was SUPPOSED to spread to the world.
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OT saved under law
Nt saved by grace
Today? If one only had access to OT, no i dont believe they would have the information to be saved, through grace, cause they would have all the info. But that being said. When we readthe OT there are places where jesus is mentionednot by name but a savior, hmmm now im thinking, sigh, great ill be up tonight on this gezz
Nt saved by grace
Today? If one only had access to OT, no i dont believe they would have the information to be saved, through grace, cause they would have all the info. But that being said. When we readthe OT there are places where jesus is mentionednot by name but a savior, hmmm now im thinking, sigh, great ill be up tonight on this gezz
Verse 10 of Isaiah 53 was what immediately came to mind:
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
However, these verses in that same prophetic chapter also point to Jesus as the Messiah:
4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
However, these verses in that same prophetic chapter also point to Jesus as the Messiah:
4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Job said that he knows his redeemer liveth and that Job would see him with his own two eyes......
The first promise of the redeemer is found in Genesis 3:15
The Kinsman redeemer is seen in Ruth
and on and on and on.......Grace is woven through the O.T. though not as prevalent and or obvious as the N.T.
The first promise of the redeemer is found in Genesis 3:15
The Kinsman redeemer is seen in Ruth
and on and on and on.......Grace is woven through the O.T. though not as prevalent and or obvious as the N.T.
? Still confused. As Jesus said that the Gospel must be preached to the Jews first, then the Gentiles, and since almost ALL of those who became disciples of His (and not just the 12) were Jews..............how is it that "Israel" failed, rejected Him?
Some? Yes. Most? Probably. But Israel? No.
Did Jesus really stop preaching to the Jews, and go to the Gentiles?
And the Jews are "on hold?" And the Nation of Israel is God's "chosen people?"
ok, well, that's enough, thanks.............
Some? Yes. Most? Probably. But Israel? No.
Did Jesus really stop preaching to the Jews, and go to the Gentiles?
And the Jews are "on hold?" And the Nation of Israel is God's "chosen people?"
ok, well, that's enough, thanks.............
The first promise of the redeemer is found in Genesis 3:15
The Kinsman redeemer is seen in Ruth
and on and on and on.......Grace is woven through the O.T. though not as prevalent and or obvious as the N.T.
Gr8grace: Yep. The Kinsman redeemer. That is a worthwhile study.
Its all Grace, from the foundation of the world to the the new earth and heavens.
So, just to be clear. When all the folks who continually post threads lecturing women on what they can say/not say, wear/not wear, look/not look and such..............you would not agree with them right? Good.
So, from now on, I fully expect the "Grace only" folks to jump in on such threads and reveal to those who lecture women that:
Its all Grace, from the foundation of the world to the the new earth and heavens.