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My 2 cents worth, if there are no more prophets, then what do we do with,
Acts 2:17-18 And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYS, says God.
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh.
Your sons and your daughters SHALL PROPHESY,
Your young men shall see visions, your old men shall dream dreams.
And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days, And THEY SHALL PROPHESY.
So what do we do with this?
Shalom, Avinu
Acts 2:17-18 And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYS, says God.
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh.
Your sons and your daughters SHALL PROPHESY,
Your young men shall see visions, your old men shall dream dreams.
And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days, And THEY SHALL PROPHESY.
So what do we do with this?
Shalom, Avinu
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there is still prophecy and the Holy Spirit works to bring illumination to scripture. They are sufficient but that does not mean they are understood or not misused.
We are not talking about the foundation, we are talking about how the blood pumps through the body.
however there are more false prophets then true prophecy floating around the internet and in the world today.
all prophecy should be a testimony of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and everyone speaks as their own oracle. I can give you Bible verses if you like?
I think people misunderstand and think they speak about other people's future but in truth they speak their own, either their words will justify or condemn them that is why we are told to harness every thought into obedience of the knowledge of Christ.
i think it is important for people to understand the seriousness of claiming to prophecies because God will look at their words and at their hearts and see if they are true to His will. more often then not the words spoken are for the individual but they want it to be for others. they condemn themselves with their words but refuse to see that is what they are doing.
We are not talking about the foundation, we are talking about how the blood pumps through the body.
however there are more false prophets then true prophecy floating around the internet and in the world today.
all prophecy should be a testimony of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and everyone speaks as their own oracle. I can give you Bible verses if you like?
I think people misunderstand and think they speak about other people's future but in truth they speak their own, either their words will justify or condemn them that is why we are told to harness every thought into obedience of the knowledge of Christ.
i think it is important for people to understand the seriousness of claiming to prophecies because God will look at their words and at their hearts and see if they are true to His will. more often then not the words spoken are for the individual but they want it to be for others. they condemn themselves with their words but refuse to see that is what they are doing.
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that was fulfilled at Pentecost Avinu.
Acts 2:16
But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
Last Days refers to period between the First and Second Advents.
Joel is not concerned with a detailed list of events - he is addressing The Promise of The Holy Spirit, and it happened.
after describing Pentecost it just goes straight to the end to the cosmic signs and the Second Advent.
same way Matthew describes 70AD, but also looks to the end (they asked Jesus a 2 part question).
Dispensatonal Theology (Scofield, Darby) inserted ANOTHER GAP in this prophecy. it's already fulfilled.
why did they do it? SO THEY COULD INTRODUCE THE NAR AND THE LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS ("Joel's Army")
Jesus TOLD US....MANY false prophets..........
Acts 2:16
But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
Last Days refers to period between the First and Second Advents.
Joel is not concerned with a detailed list of events - he is addressing The Promise of The Holy Spirit, and it happened.
after describing Pentecost it just goes straight to the end to the cosmic signs and the Second Advent.
same way Matthew describes 70AD, but also looks to the end (they asked Jesus a 2 part question).
Dispensatonal Theology (Scofield, Darby) inserted ANOTHER GAP in this prophecy. it's already fulfilled.
why did they do it? SO THEY COULD INTRODUCE THE NAR AND THE LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS ("Joel's Army")
Jesus TOLD US....MANY false prophets..........
John never said all that happened to Him in Revelation! Was he supposed to go through everything you think should happen? Who is going to test a prophet? I'd like to see you take a test! How do I know you are a good Christian to be telling prophets what they should be. If you want to give test, you shouldn't have a problem being tested. So I guess we should test everyone!
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I am not a prophet so I do not have to be tested as a prophet but I welcome any other test you may want to give as long as you agree to be tested. At least the false prophets in Elijah's time had the courage to face Elijah seems the prophets of today seem to have no courage or faith. The Bible says that prophets are to be tested if you do not agree with this then if you claim to be a prophet then you would be a false prophet for prophets must agree with scripture.
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hey Jonathan how about just three:
Are their words and actions leading people towards their own personal and intimate relationship with God through repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
or are they leading them away towards their own lusts and concerns of this world or worship of people, angels or other things that can be perceived with human eyes and created by the human mind?
Is their Gospel about FAITH in GOD's love and mercy or about what MAN must DO for God?
Is their Gospel about what JESUS has done or what MAN must still do?
Are their words and actions leading people towards their own personal and intimate relationship with God through repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
or are they leading them away towards their own lusts and concerns of this world or worship of people, angels or other things that can be perceived with human eyes and created by the human mind?
Is their Gospel about FAITH in GOD's love and mercy or about what MAN must DO for God?
Is their Gospel about what JESUS has done or what MAN must still do?
I cannot always read all posted here.
But I wonder if the debate over prophets is more about how all is spoken too or presented.
From what is seen in the NT, we still will recieve prophacies, but these will be given in many, sons, daughters even servants.
But a spacific prophet is spoken to only in revelations, the two witnesses.
So is the debate about one claiming to be a prophet, or are there prophacies still.
As scripture speaks to there being prophacies given in the last days.
The last days being from the time Jesus assended till His return.
Sorry about repeating, I just want to make sure I understand and speak to the concern correctly.
So the debate is wether one is a prophet?
Or is it, are there prophacies even now?
Im just seeking the root of this constant debate.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
But I wonder if the debate over prophets is more about how all is spoken too or presented.
From what is seen in the NT, we still will recieve prophacies, but these will be given in many, sons, daughters even servants.
But a spacific prophet is spoken to only in revelations, the two witnesses.
So is the debate about one claiming to be a prophet, or are there prophacies still.
As scripture speaks to there being prophacies given in the last days.
The last days being from the time Jesus assended till His return.
Sorry about repeating, I just want to make sure I understand and speak to the concern correctly.
So the debate is wether one is a prophet?
Or is it, are there prophacies even now?
Im just seeking the root of this constant debate.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
L
I cannot always read all posted here.
But I wonder if the debate over prophets is more about how all is spoken too or presented.
From what is seen in the NT, we still will recieve prophacies, but these will be given in many, sons, daughters even servants.
But a spacific prophet is spoken to only in revelations, the two witnesses.
So is the debate about one claiming to be a prophet, or are there prophacies still.
As scripture speaks to there being prophacies given in the last days.
The last days being from the time Jesus assended till His return.
Sorry about repeating, I just want to make sure I understand and speak to the concern correctly.
So the debate is wether one is a prophet?
Or is it, are there prophacies even now?
Im just seeking the root of this constant debate.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
But I wonder if the debate over prophets is more about how all is spoken too or presented.
From what is seen in the NT, we still will recieve prophacies, but these will be given in many, sons, daughters even servants.
But a spacific prophet is spoken to only in revelations, the two witnesses.
So is the debate about one claiming to be a prophet, or are there prophacies still.
As scripture speaks to there being prophacies given in the last days.
The last days being from the time Jesus assended till His return.
Sorry about repeating, I just want to make sure I understand and speak to the concern correctly.
So the debate is wether one is a prophet?
Or is it, are there prophacies even now?
Im just seeking the root of this constant debate.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles